U2 in croker

lostexpectation

what the biggest gig muse have played here?

Professey Chin

lostexpectation wrote: »

what the biggest gig muse have played here?

Marley Park last year or I guess you could count Oxegen (Do festivals count since theyres noway to tell how many went to see them?)

Hank Scorpio

U2 got the name "The best band in the world" for being ****e according to alot of people in this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkBzkA9L4s

On a side note i dont like Muse`s "Music" either and i strongly doubt they`ll be around in 25 years, let alone 5.

Oh The Humanity

Oh The Humanity wrote: »

U2 ceased being a good band a good 10 years ago. You only had to look at the fans walking up to the gig. Sheeple who hadn't a clue about music.
Spanish and Italian women, japanese tourists and grey haired aul fellas in too short tulip line jeans.

So, spanish and italian women and japanese tourists all know nothing about music. That's a pretty sweeping statement. Almost a quarter of a million people will see them here in Dublin over the 3 nights. It's pretty ignorant to say none of them know anything about music.

lostexpectation

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Marley Park last year or I guess you could count Oxegen (Do festivals count since theyres noway to tell how many went to see them?)

fairly recent then not bad, glad they've got a good showing here

ok then we get into a discussion if marley park is good enough for muse

lostexpectation

nuxxx wrote: »

U2 got the name "The best band in the world" for being ****e according to alot of people in this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkBzkA9L4s

On a side note i dont like Muse`s "Music" either and i strongly doubt they`ll be around in 25 years, let alone 5.

ah more nighttime vids when our concerts are in daytime

SuprSi

I saw them on Friday and thought they were amazing. I hadn't seen them before and have liked them for years (not so keen on the new album) but they blew me away. Had great seats surrounded by sound people loving the gig as much as we were. The stage was simply stunning, as was the light show. This photo is a bit blurry but it give you an idea of what it was like...



One of the best live gigs I've ever been to.

Neo#

I love U2. I also love Muse too and will be going to see them as well as U2. Its OK to like both. I like lots of bands and go to lots of gigs.

Eire-Dearg

Muse would've put on a better show on a wooden stage in the local Gah field than U2 in Croker.

rossie1977

Neo# wrote: »

I love U2. I also love Muse too and will be going to see them as well as U2. Its OK to like both. I like lots of bands and go to lots of gigs.

liking two different bands or two different varieties of music [does not compute]

kids today

g5fd6ow0hseima

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

I wouldnt describe them as that.
I would say theyre the biggest active band in the world though

They're the most commerical, but yet since 1980, they've done absolutely nothing for music. Its the same ****e being belted out since day 1. Im just waiting for the day U2 open a shop on Grafton Street to be honest.

Corkfeen

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

I wouldnt describe them as that.
I would say theyre the biggest active band in the world though

I'd agree on that (friend of mine tried to argue it was Coldplay ), they've gone a bit downhill in recent days though. Still gotta say i'm still a fan.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Xavi6 wrote: »

Mus - and the Royal Albert Hall.

I've an album of Status Qou live at the Royal Albert Hall, so ya - Muse must be pretty good.

***late edit.

I've just listened to some Muse on youtube, pretty damn good 70's rock sound - me likes 'em alot!.


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arybvtcw0eolkf

Ellison Calm Snowflake wrote: »

Im just waiting for the day U2 open a shop on Grafton Street to be honest.

Why, you don't even like them.

Thats silly.

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weldoninhio

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ok in brief bullet point form -

1. Muse are a three piece from Devon - Matt Bellamy (Vocals, guitar, piano), Chris Wolstenholme (Bass, backing vocals, odd bit of guitar) and Dom Howard (Drums)

2. Debut album 'Showbiz' released in 1999. Followed by 'Origin of Symmetry' (2001), 'Absolution' (2003) and 'Black Holes and Revelations' (2006). Have released two live albums and three dvds.

3. Their style ranges from heavy guitar riffs and soaring vocals to quiet piano melodies (quite often in the same song).

4. Matt Bellamy is a self thought musician who, even if you don't like his style, is impossible to not recognise as a ridiculousy talented individual.

5. They are renowned worldwide for their epic live performances and shows, with highlights including headline sets at Glastonbury, Wembley Stadium, and the Royal Albert Hall.

Definitely worth at least a look imo (though they are my favourite band so I would say that!)

Worldwide?? Really?? Judging from all my American and Aussie mates who have never heard of them I would have to pull you up on that.

Wibbs

Oh The Humanity wrote: »

Please NEVER mention AC/DC and u2 again in the same sentance.

The Edge is not fit to lick the boots of Angus Young who is the best guitarist on the planet today.

The Edge is just ordinary. U2 ceased being a good band a good 10 years ago. You only had to look at the fans walking up to the gig. Sheeple who hadn't a clue about music.

Angus Young is a bloody great guitar player. I fcukin love the lad's riffing. You are dead right, he is one of the best guitarists in rock history, never mind today. He is of a type though. Now he has his signature sound, but it's a variation on a theme of classic rock guitarists.

Now the edge. Technically great guitar player? Nope(though he's more of a right handed player, great attack and rhythm). Difficult to copy? Nope. But and it's a huge but, no one and I mean no one sounds like him until after they've heard him. Ordinary? Really? He is one of the few guitar players in rock history that you can say that about. He is probably one of the most original axeman in rock too. He created his own sound. You can trace some of his evolution to people like Tom Verlaine of Television, but he took it in an entirely different direction. Eric Clapton? Yea very original if you hadn't heard of Buddy Guy and a rake of other blues Guitar players. In fairness to Eric he acknowledges it too.

I know this will raise hackles but I would put the Edge fella up there with Hendrix. Not for technical ability but for creating an original sound all his own. The very second he cranks up, you know who it is. He doesn't sound like anyone else.

BTW all this crap about effects. Yea great argument, Angus uses them, Eric used them, Jimi couldn't get enough of them(wah wah pedal, fuzztone, "tuned" marshall amps, phasers, echo pedals). Unless you want to stick them all in a room and play nylon string spanish guitars that's no argument. I'll give anyone Jimi's gear and see where they take it, ditto for Angus'. It still won't be them and they still won;t come up with new riffs. Exactly the same for the edge. It's called the electric guitar for good reason.

The other thing I like about him is he is measured as a guitar player. Great article in the sunday times about George Harrison recently, where the writer put forward the case that George was one of the greatest guitar players in rock history. He was measured and everything he did added to the song and the sound and the band(even more impressive seeing as he started off in skiffle and ended up in the "Guitar hero" endless riffing era). No fluff, no extra padding. Rare. The writer made a great point; can you imagine any Beatles song with a different guitar part or guitar player?

You can say exactly the same about the edge. Like the songs or them, or not, but without him it simply wouldn't be a U2 song. Think of a U2 song and I would put good money the first musical bit that enters your head is that guys guitar riff. You could replace Angus Young with some of his generation, it wouldn't be quite the same, but it wouldn't be that different. Hendrix would be a charm(that's how much I respect Angus BTW)Who would replace the edge? The bloke from Coldplay, edge lite? He's ripped him off after the fact too. Matthew Bellamy? Good guitar player and has the no fluff harrison vibe to him, so hopefully they keep going, but it wouldn't be within sniffing distance of a "U2 song".

Sheesh I'm not even a fan and I can objectively see that. Even more sheesh I'm defending them!!! :eek::o:D Then again I never got the buzz from the Floyd, but I would defend their place in musical history in a heartbeat.

Xavi6

weldoninhio wrote: »

Worldwide?? Really?? Judging from all my American and Aussie mates who have never heard of them I would have to pull you up on that.

Seeing as I live in Australia and have seen them twice over here (sold out gigs btw) I'm pretty sure I'm in touch with the Aussie music scene enough to know how well they're known and received.

Carawaystick

I was at the gig on Friday, It was good but not great, I've seen them 5 times, Joshua Tree, Zoo, Pop, Vertigo and Friday. I'd say Zoo was the best and Vertigo second best. I was too young to know all the songs for Joshua - I was only ten. and Pop had very poor sound, but a great show.
The new songs aren't good enough compared to the old songs. That and there were a load of young ones sitting near us who weren't born when the Joshua tree came out.

I didn't see what all the hype about teh stage was for, I mean it was big but as U2 stages go fairly basic. Metalica set twopeople on fire for me in the Point for £17.50 back in the the day. That's entertaining your fans.

Best gig I was ever act I was ever at was Pearl Jam in the Point in 2000

Dj Stiggie

Just back from tonights gig.

I thought they were epic, my first time seeing them.

And whether you liked them or not, the stage and lights were unreal

g5fd6ow0hseima

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

Just back from tonights gig.

I thought they were epic, my first time seeing them.

And whether you liked them or not, the stage and lights were unreal

:pac:

Jimmybump

any fans no the song they sang (MONDAY SHOW) were the lyrics came up on the screen as OH OH ! i was fairly drunk but bono's lyrics were like "Enter your name" "Password Is Here" i no this isnt alot to go on but someone may no ?

randypriest

Jimmybump wrote: »

any fans no the song they sang (MONDAY SHOW) were the lyrics came up on the screen as OH OH ! i was fairly drunk but bono's lyrics were like "Enter your name" "Password Is Here" i no this isnt alot to go on but someone may no ?

Its "Unknown Caller" off No Line on the Horizon.

Jimmybump

good bless you man !

randypriest

Jimmybump wrote: »

good bless you man !

No problem, just back from the gig myself:D

truecrippler

Wibbs wrote: »

Angus Young is a bloody great guitar player. I fcukin love the lad's riffing. You are dead right, he is one of the best guitarists in rock history, never mind today. He is of a type though. Now he has his signature sound, but it's a variation on a theme of classic rock guitarists. ..

...
Sheesh I'm not even a fan and I can objectively see that. Even more sheesh I'm defending them!!! :eek::o:D Then again I never got the buzz from the Floyd, but I would defend their place in musical history in a heartbeat.

Wibbs.... you the man!!!

kraggy

Oh The Humanity wrote: »

Please NEVER mention AC/DC and u2 again in the same sentance.

The Edge is not fit to lick the boots of Angus Young who is the best guitarist on the planet today.

The Edge is just ordinary. U2 ceased being a good band a good 10 years ago. You only had to look at the fans walking up to the gig. Sheeple who hadn't a clue about music.

Spanish and Italian women, japanese tourists and grey haired aul fellas in too short tulip line jeans.

1. What defines the best guitar player on the planet? Accuracy, imagination? If it's the former, I can think of many classical guitarists who would beat both The Edge and Angus Young into smithereens. If it's the latter, I can still think of people who would beat both. Comparing guitarists like that is like comparing beers; some like them crisp, some like them wholesome, some like them fruity like Marilyn Monroe.

2. If The Edge is so ordinary, how were U2 a good band 10 years ago?

3. I was one of the people walking up to the gig. I wasn't a sheep. I fancied a night out. Not a fan per se, but I know music. And I know that they can make music. Mightn't be my preferred choice, but hell, they make music.

4. I'm not Spanish, I'm just a girl, not yet a woman, my eyes ain't squinty and I'm blonde, young and my jeans ain't tulip line, they're Dandelion.

Mmm, hmm...

Bandit12

got a free ticket and headed down to the gig last night. If i could describe it in one word that word would be Meh.

MagicMarker

weldoninhio wrote: »

Worldwide?? Really?? Judging from all my American and Aussie mates who have never heard of them I would have to pull you up on that.

Get new friends. They're obviously idiots.

Professey Chin

MagicMarker wrote: »

Get new friends. They're obviously idiots.

Or Muse arn't as big as you want to believe

MagicMarker

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Or Muse arn't as big as you want to believe

I've met people who've never heard of Led Zeppelin. Someone saying their friends in the US have never heard of Muse doesn't really mean anything to me.

Professey Chin

MagicMarker wrote: »

I've met people who've never heard of Led Zeppelin. Someone saying their friends in the US have never heard of Muse doesn't really mean anything to me.

:eek: Great Googly Moogly

Blackpitts

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ok in brief bullet point form -

3. Their style ranges from heavy guitar riffs and soaring vocals to quiet piano melodies (quite often in the same song).

4. Matt Bellamy is a self thought musician who, even if you don't like his style, is impossible to not recognise as a ridiculousy talented individual.

When asked in 2001 by MTV:
"How do you guys feel about the fact that bands like Muse, Travis and Coldplay are making a career sounding exactly like your records did in 1997?"
Yorke replied simply: "Good luck with Kid A."

:D:D:D:D:D

MagicMarker

Honestly, people who make comparisons with Muse & Radiohead obviously don't have a clue about either band.

dr.bollocko

MagicMarker wrote: »

Honestly, people who make comparisons with Muse & Radiohead obviously don't have a clue about either band.

Or prefab sprout.

Heisenberg.

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Fooz

Was at it last night. They put on a good spectacle (moving video screens, lighting, all that). It would seriously have been great if it had been true 360 so I really think it was a shame that it wasn't. Overall it didn't blow me away, can't put my finger on why. Missed BellX1 which annoyed me, was really hoping to miss The Script instead.

irish_bob

Wibbs wrote: »

Angus Young is a bloody great guitar player. I fcukin love the lad's riffing. You are dead right, he is one of the best guitarists in rock history, never mind today. He is of a type though. Now he has his signature sound, but it's a variation on a theme of classic rock guitarists.

Now the edge. Technically great guitar player? Nope(though he's more of a right handed player, great attack and rhythm). Difficult to copy? Nope. But and it's a huge but, no one and I mean no one sounds like him until after they've heard him. Ordinary? Really? He is one of the few guitar players in rock history that you can say that about. He is probably one of the most original axeman in rock too. He created his own sound. You can trace some of his evolution to people like Tom Verlaine of Television, but he took it in an entirely different direction. Eric Clapton? Yea very original if you hadn't heard of Buddy Guy and a rake of other blues Guitar players. In fairness to Eric he acknowledges it too.
I know this will raise hackles but I would put the Edge fella up there with Hendrix. Not for technical ability but for creating an original sound all his own. The very second he cranks up, you know who it is. He doesn't sound like anyone else.

BTW all this crap about effects. Yea great argument, Angus uses them, Eric used them, Jimi couldn't get enough of them(wah wah pedal, fuzztone, "tuned" marshall amps, phasers, echo pedals). Unless you want to stick them all in a room and play nylon string spanish guitars that's no argument. I'll give anyone Jimi's gear and see where they take it, ditto for Angus'. It still won't be them and they still won;t come up with new riffs. Exactly the same for the edge. It's called the electric guitar for good reason.

The other thing I like about him is he is measured as a guitar player. Great article in the sunday times about George Harrison recently, where the writer put forward the case that George was one of the greatest guitar players in rock history. He was measured and everything he did added to the song and the sound and the band(even more impressive seeing as he started off in skiffle and ended up in the "Guitar hero" endless riffing era). No fluff, no extra padding. Rare. The writer made a great point; can you imagine any Beatles song with a different guitar part or guitar player?

You can say exactly the same about the edge. Like the songs or them, or not, but without him it simply wouldn't be a U2 song. Think of a U2 song and I would put good money the first musical bit that enters your head is that guys guitar riff. You could replace Angus Young with some of his generation, it wouldn't be quite the same, but it wouldn't be that different. Hendrix would be a charm(that's how much I respect Angus BTW)Who would replace the edge? The bloke from Coldplay, edge lite? He's ripped him off after the fact too. Matthew Bellamy? Good guitar player and has the no fluff harrison vibe to him, so hopefully they keep going, but it wouldn't be within sniffing distance of a "U2 song".

Sheesh I'm not even a fan and I can objectively see that. Even more sheesh I'm defending them!!! :eek::o:D Then again I never got the buzz from the Floyd, but I would defend their place in musical history in a heartbeat.

ac/dc are a garrage band made good , thier a joke band , quientesential hairs arsed rockers whos fans are meat heads , they,ve been churning out the same song and ( DANCE ) for 30 years , thier is more depth to the band AQUA

dr.bollocko

irish_bob wrote: »

ac/dc are a garrage band made good , thier a joke band , they,ve been churning out the same song and ( DANCE ) for 30 years , thier is more depth to the band AQUA

Would you go away out of that with yer nonsense.

Oh The Humanity

irish_bob wrote: »

ac/dc are a garrage band made good , thier a joke band , they,ve been churning out the same song and ( DANCE ) for 30 years , thier is more depth to the band AQUA

:rolleyes:

Ah shurrup, they wipe the floor with U2....

Im not looking for 'depth' in a band, pretentious crap. Im lookin for a band that can tear my head off with noise and not lecture me on boring world issues while churning out their jingly jangly middle of the road nonsense.

PeterLT

Did they replace turf for the concert? Or was it different story?

Degsy

Oh The Humanity wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Ah shurrup, they wipe the floor with U2....

Im not looking for 'depth' in a band, pretentious crap. Im lookin for a band that can tear my head off with noise and not lecture me on boring world issues while churning out their jingly jangly middle of the road nonsense.

Meet Rammstein.

chezzer

Tony255 wrote: »

Anyone go to see them last night, love them or hate them based on last nights performance they have cemented themselves as the best band in the world in my view nobody can come close in terms of live performances. The claw is mental, Kaiser Chiefs were also brilliant he is like a young bono just as mental. Not sure if it was just me or not but bono didnt seem to make use of the stage as much as he used to maybe old age is catching up.

I paid the nearly €300 for 2 tickets, bought legit through ticketmaster and i thought they were expensive, that thought went out the window after they came on, totally worth it. They completely blasted away the vertigo tour, just keep getting better and better.

Well done lads.

haha!
as others have said Bruce Springsteen + the E street band ...

way ahead ... and they don't need to talk to Astronauts to jazz up the show ..

Paparazzo

Comparing AC/DC with U2 is like comparing a 69 Dodge Charger with a 97Toyota Corolla.

ScumLord

I just heard Bono talking on the news about that one that got the award. He's an awful prat.

hidinginthebush

Bandit12 wrote: »

got a free ticket and headed down to the gig last night. If i could describe it in one word that word would be Meh.

True that!

Professey Chin

Paparazzo wrote: »

Comparing AC/DC with U2 is like comparing a 69 Dodge Charger with a 97Toyota Corolla.

The louder one cant turn corners

Big_G

Went last night. I'm not a U2 fan.
A few things were clear -
€130 for a ticket
Massive stage (is that going to be recycled at the end of the tour?)
Off the stage at 23.00 to the second.
Very little banter with the crowd, apart from some Amnesty thing about Aung Saan Su Kyi (sp?)
Collection points for Amnesty all around Croke Park. Could U2 donate some of the €130 I paid for a ticket to Amnesty maybe?

U2 are a business, not a band!

All in all I thought it was good, not great. There were some good moments where everybody held up their phones and when people were singing but other than that, you could pick up most of the atmosphere from their soon to be released (I'm sure) DVD.

Paparazzo

ScumLord wrote: »

I just heard Bono talking on the news about that one that got the award. He's an awful prat.

I went to the gig last night. Good gig, but he's the cheesiest front man ever. It's almost so cheesy it's funny. Not in a cool way either. All the fans were lapping it up as if he was a genius! The lyrics for a song (think it was unknown caller) came up on the big screen and we laughed they were so bad!
If Alan Partridge was a singer he'd be bono.

Big_G

Fooz wrote: »

Was at it last night. They put on a good spectacle (moving video screens, lighting, all that). It would seriously have been great if it had been true 360 so I really think it was a shame that it wasn't. Overall it didn't blow me away, can't put my finger on why. Missed BellX1 which annoyed me, was really hoping to miss The Script instead.

My feelings exactly.

Paparazzo

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

The louder one cant turn corners

What do you mean? Of course it can go around corners. Turn the steering wheel and point the car!