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Most effective ways to loose weight?

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    beks101 wrote: »
    I don't know about that. I've lost weight in the past that way, working out frenzies in the gym, crashed out with injuries and gained it all back. .
    I'm not talking about frenzies or injuries. I'm talking about pushing yourself, lifting a weight that makes you struggle a bit, pushing yourself on the treadmill so that you're sweating, doing that extra squat at the end of the set.

    I see far too many people in the gym reading magazines, hanging around chatting and generally NOT working out hard enough.

    And to be honest, I can only spend about 50 minutes in the gym. After that, I'm too knackered to do anything else. 50 minutes in the gym, 3/4 times a week? I don't think think that's beyond the reach of most people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    ztoical wrote: »
    I would call that special....we're taking about losing a stone in a month, which people can argue back on forth on wither it is doable or not but the fact is the effort needed to lose that much in a month is alot, esp if your going from nothing activity wise to full force, and most people aren't going to keep that amount of effort up forever. Someone with sense would put in the big effort but have a sensible plan after to maintain their weight, but most don't, most go mad, take off loads of weight then think woohoo I've done it and go back to their old habbits.

    Not really, new actions become habits very easily. After about a month into a decent training program it's a hell of a lot easier to keep it going than it is in week one. You know what your doing, the results are showing etc etc.

    But anyway, that's not the point...the point is can she do what she wants to do in a month and a half.

    Answer : If she pushes herself beyound the realms of what most people consider "hard work" in the gym...then yes.

    It's not a hard thing to do either...you just need to be put through that one session that shows you what the next level is. It's happened for me....and i've been responsible for that workout for other people.

    I hate the assumption that someone is average simply because they are someone. OP, push yourself with a proper supportive diet behind you, if you never have then you don't know how far you can go.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Dragan wrote: »
    push yourself with a proper supportive diet behind you, if you never have then you don't know how far you can go.
    There's one for the motivational quotes thread in Fitness :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Dragan wrote: »
    I think that is the main thing people make a mistake about...the gym. The people who make the big differences go through hell in the gym, going far beyond the point of discomfort to genuinely push themselves.

    Basically, if you are willing to suffer for your cause, you can do it.

    I read somewhere that you need to almost need a fear of going to the gym, knowing you're going to do a tough workout, push yourself hard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Larianne wrote: »
    I read somewhere that you need to almost need a fear of going to the gym, knowing you're going to do a tough workout, push yourself hard.

    It all depends on what gets you off in the gym. If you like it comfy...then so be it. I don't. The people i know who do the type of things that get rehased over and over in threads like these don't.

    You don't need to feel "fear" to makes changes...but you need to feel like you gave it your all when you walked out and you need to be really honest with yourself when you say it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    Yeah, you need to exercise/jog/run three to four times a week. Lifestyle changes include not eating after say 7pm ...think thin be thin. good luck :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    The "no money to buy food diet" made me loose about a stone once. Weight loss wasn't planned but when you have around €20 maybe less to buy food for the week there's no Starbucks, Ben+Jerry's,wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    Dragan wrote: »
    Not really, new actions become habits very easily. After about a month into a decent training program it's a hell of a lot easier to keep it going than it is in week one. You know what your doing, the results are showing etc etc.

    But anyway, that's not the point...the point is can she do what she wants to do in a month and a half.

    Answer : If she pushes herself beyound the realms of what most people consider "hard work" in the gym...then yes.

    It's not a hard thing to do either...you just need to be put through that one session that shows you what the next level is. It's happened for me....and i've been responsible for that workout for other people.

    I hate the assumption that someone is average simply because they are someone. OP, push yourself with a proper supportive diet behind you, if you never have then you don't know how far you can go.

    I question the reasons the OP wants to lose the weight and feel they are different to why you did it. It is of course just an assumption based on their first post but someone asking about diet tablets and looking to lose alot of weight fast sounds like they are looking to do it for the wrong reasons. If they do try to lose that amount of weight for the wrong reasons and with the wrong motivation they could do more harm then good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    I'd be interested to hear back from the OP to see why they need to lose such an amount of weight in such a small space of time. Is is to fit into a dress, look good in a bikini or some such thing? As nearly all the previous posters have said, it is fairly unfeasable to lose that much weight in a month, but you may find by cutting down on carbs/alcohol/sugar that you lose some of that bloatedness, so while the scales mightn't go down, you may feel and look a lot slimmer.

    Or what about the old reliable, the magic knickers! Or a fake tan can make wobbly skin look a bit less wobbly :D

    Other than that, I'm afraid nothing beats diet and exercise!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    ncmc wrote: »
    I'd be interested to hear back from the OP

    I think we all would, but I'm guessing it's unlikely to happen s/he hasn't logged in since starting this bombshell of a thread. :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    sunnyside wrote: »
    The "no money to buy food diet" made me loose about a stone once. Weight loss wasn't planned but when you have around €20 maybe less to buy food for the week there's no Starbucks, Ben+Jerry's,wine.




    WHAT ????????? no starbucks, ya poor thing , how in Heavens name did ya get through that ?????, Ida been found dead , just know i woulda been found dead. :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Birdie086


    the no money to buy food diet is the one i will be on for the next few weeks. Need to clear few bills so no money for takeaways, pub lunches, taxis, wine/cider at the weekends. Bank balance up, weighing scales down!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    At the risk of sounding glaringly obvious:

    Eat less and exercise more.

    Also, eat better food and drink lots of water.

    It's really not difficult to figure out, surely?
    Actually, eat more often. Instead of 3 big meals, 6 small meals will allow the body to break up the foods better.

    Also, do pilates. It's fun to do, and will help you to loose weight. For best results, go with a few friends, so that you will keep going to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    the_syco wrote: »
    Actually, eat more often. Instead of 3 big meals, 6 small meals will allow the body to break up the foods better.

    + 1 very true. It's assumed alot of the time that overweight people must be eating piles of food but in alot of cases they are eating less then average weight people they are just eating the wrong things. Some junk food has over 1000 calories in it so you don't actually have to eat that much of it to gain weight. One bagel is the same as I think it's 4 or 5 slices of regular bread.

    Make sure not to skip breakfast, include more protein [like baked beans] with your breakfast as you won't feel hungry as quickly, then eat small meals about every 4 hours.

    Unless the OP comes back this thread has kinda wandered off topic and is more suited to the nutrition or fitness forum at this point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭janbaby


    Diet tablets are so dangerous I don't think I'd go down that road.
    It sounds obvious but if you wanna lose weight lose it properly or it'll all come back on straight away. Weight watchers is a really good way esp if you can't give up the food you love. I lost 2 stone in 6 months in ww and it stayed off until I got pregnant 2 years later. It helps you change your attitude to food.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    ztoical wrote: »
    One bagel is the same as I think it's 4 or 5 slices of regular bread.
    QUOTE]

    A plain Bagel has same weight watcher points as two slices of white bread (3points)

    Now, if that Bagle has cheese, onion and sundried tomotoes in it before adding even butter - you can assume it has more calories

    Please could you provide appropriate information - as some young un's or innocent's could go around spurting false truths. I hate it when you can hear two skinny minnies gabbing on about calories etc

    But thanks for input


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    LouOB wrote: »
    A plain Bagel has same weight watcher points as two slices of white bread (3points)

    I would pay very little attention to what weight watchers puts its points on - they push all their own brand ready meals on people that might be low in calories but are packed full of fake sugars, E's and other chemicals. Your better buying actual food and just learning the calories in them and correct serving sizes.

    A plain bagel packs about 340 calories. Depending on the size, one plain bagel can equal up to five slices of bread as one slice of white unbuttered bread is only about 70 calories.

    Source for those wanting to check numbers.

    LouOB wrote: »
    I hate it when you can hear two skinny minnies gabbing on about calories etc

    like listening to people going on about weight watchers points......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    LouOB wrote: »
    I hate it when you can hear two skinny minnies gabbing on about calories etc

    just a thought - maybe they're "skinny minnies" precisely because they know a lot about healthy eating and which foods are high in calories :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    Oh damnation !!!!!!!, did we have to bring "skinny minnies" in to the thread ??,

    hate them! hate them! hate them!, :mad:, sorry , had to get that off me chest. :o

    Just exercise a few times ina week. stay away from "comfort" food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    I am on weight watchers since january, have lost 31lbs so far.

    It has been fairly easy. The points system does work. And i find the meetings and going to get weighed in every week very motivational.

    I do a pilates class once a week and some exercise at home.

    I try to get out to walk every day.


    I have great support from family and friends which is important.


    I see this as a lifestyle change for me, not a diet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Quality wrote: »
    I see this as a lifestyle change for me, not a diet.

    That's when it really works long term. Congrats on the weight loss so far. 31lbs is very good going.

    Do you see yourself sticking with the weight watchers points thing when you've hit your target weight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭Demonique


    I lost weight when I went to university.

    I was on the internet a lot and was too lazy to cook.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    Khannie wrote: »
    That's when it really works long term. Congrats on the weight loss so far. 31lbs is very good going.

    Do you see yourself sticking with the weight watchers points thing when you've hit your target weight?


    Well I am quite used to the system now, I eat much healthier than before with smaller portions.. I have finally realised that I can't eat the same size dinner as my husband.

    I will keep an eye on my weight for definite, It has taken me this long to lose it, I am not going to throw all the hard work away by going to town on food again!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭chocgirl


    Losing a stone and a half in a month can be done, without doubt, but not safely. The only way to safely lose weight is to consume less calories and exercise more as most people know. Putting it into practice is another thing.

    Weight loss needs to be part of a lifestyle change as already mentioned. Crash dieting or yo-yo dieting can lead to a vicious cycle of weight loss and weight gain and can have disastrous long term affects on your body, osteoporosis isn't pleasant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    A lot of the posts here are brill and will give hope to those looking at their own weight . I have found in the past if i was losing weight that diets really are only short term fixes, other posts re lifestyle changes /smaller meals is a great idea , exercise to burn off calories is another good plan . This sounds a little off the chart but i heard years ago to constantly "think thin" this seemingly has a positive influence on your subconscious and your efforts will be steadfast. I personally found that you have to learn to laugh at yourself / there will be times when it seems your weight is not budging below a certain number .....its then you have to have a good laugh and think to yourself "keep going girl/ boy" ...laughter is by far better then any alternative, I found this out personally . i am 5ft 7 and several years back i weighed close to 14 stone, I now weigh 11 stone and this is constant ( changes for life ) So,if anyone asks me re topic i always say , " if i did it so can ANYONE ". Good luck to anyone embarking on loosing weight , it will be worth the effort , you will feel and look fabulous. GO FOR IT TODAY :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭sting60


    no tabs no tv diets,exercise and proper diet plenty of water.i use a massage on my wife and her friends that they enjoy but in conjuntion with previous.it goes like this,i use an abrasive glove on legs,bum and tummy rub strongly in towards glands in groin[quickest way out of body].a soothing massage follows with freshly squeesed lemon and lime plus tint of rosemary and juniper, lindseed oil,candles and soothing music.the girls have lost inches from bum ,tummy and legs.i have just bought a plint so may do more as its only a pastime and i dont charge.it works so long as you drink plenty of water.hope this helps.ting60


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Corb


    Anyone that's been on Weight Watchers, would you recommend it? I'm thinking of joining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 butterflydream


    the best way to shift the weight for good is have a lifestyle change as in the foods you eat and the amount. I don't go by cutting out certain types of foods like if I want pizza or something like that Ill have it, its all down to burning more calories than you take in. Also found that cutting out the fizzy drinks is a great way as even the diet drinks will bloat you slightly.

    So my advice is drink at least 1 litre of water every day and exercise a couple times a week, even just going for a walk helps. Don't push too hard and don't be disappointed if the results aren't immediate, it will happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 lilyblack


    I think you have to be happy within your self. If you dont like your self its very hard to lose weight. This is the problem I have? Why should I who cares if you dont no one else will:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    This thread has gone total off topic and is more suited now to the fitness or one of the food forums plus the OP hasn't logged in since posting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    truthfully the key to effective weightloss and keeping it off is education. If you inform yourself on how your body uses food and what your food comprises of ad if you then combine it with a knowledge of how different exercise impact on your body it becomes a lot easier to make informed choices about what you fuel your body for the activities you face day to day.

    Oh and another key is learn how to cook as then you can make good tasting healty food that will make maintaining a healthy diet a hell of a lot easier as it will help kill craving for crap food as you know you can make better tasting food yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    yep, and a lot of education is needed for some of the posters in this thread tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Alfasud


    A little and often is supposed to be the best type of diet ----combined with exercise and water of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    ztoical wrote: »
    This thread has gone total off topic and is more suited now to the fitness or one of the food forums plus the OP hasn't logged in since posting.
    I can guarantee it wouldn't be read by many of tLL posters there.

    Joe the Santa is dead right - it's about making your OWN informed choices and not relying on scammy fashionable diets. It's about life-long changes and making the commitment to looking after your body. Doing that creates a sense of self-worth that can't be bought or replicated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    I've said it before, but I only started to properly lose weight was when I decided that I was going to eat well for life, no faddy diets or quick fixes. Once I stopped obsessing about being X weight for X occasion, it started to come off naturally. I'm halfway there now, and when the rest of it comes off I'm confident that I won't regain it, because I have made these changes for life :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭foundry


    Absolutely ridiculous losing a stone and a half in a mth.
    If you were to shift that weight that quick it will pile back on rapidly when you start slipping back to your usual routine.

    Slow weight loss proves the weight will stay off for longer.



    P.S Red raven I think you look fab the way you are. Life is too short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭MJOR


    i have lost a bit recently with smaller portions less diet coke and more water and two twenty minute walks four times a week. a good place is www.unislim.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Elle Victorine


    To be honest I found the easiest way is just watch your portion sizes, cut back on eating too much junk food and just walk for 20 minutes a day.

    I usually put on weight during my study month in college due to just sitting and studying all the time and snacking. It comes off after ebcause I start eating less just and fast sugar foods and just walk a little bit more. As long as you get your heart rate up it should work.


    If it's hard for you to lose weight cutting back on booze and doing exercises that work your leg muscles fully are good for you because its where some of your strongest.biggest muscles are and requre more energy to work apparently.

    I have a lot of mates who do diets but portion control and exercise really is the way to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    MJOR wrote: »
    i have lost a bit recently with smaller portions less diet coke and more water and two twenty minute walks four times a week. a good place is www.unislim.ie

    diet coke is 6 calories per litre.

    i'm not trying to sound like a prick, but me and my friends who are into training are shocked by how uneducated a lot of women (g'em big exception of course) are about nutrition and keeping in shape when it seems to be something they talk about a lot.

    figure out your bmr here: http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
    then count your calories every day and make sure you're around 500 calories less than your bmr and you'll lose fat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    i'm not trying to sound like a prick, but me and my friends who are into training are shocked by how uneducated a lot of women (g'em big exception of course) are about nutrition and keeping in shape when it seems to be something they talk about a lot.

    :rolleyes: Fabulous generalisation there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Khannie wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Fabulous generalisation there.

    A generalisation, perhaps, but largely true. It's not just women though, it's men too, but for the purpose of the forum we'll keep the discussion about the girls. How many good resource do you think women have to gain good nutritional information? It is, of course, the responsibility of every individual to learn what they need to know about eating right, but even knowing where to start looking is a problem.

    Special K, sugar-laden smoothies and low-fat high GI dairy products do not a good diet make but these are the foods constantly touted as 'vital' for weight loss inany popular publications and tv shows aimed at women. From talking to women and moderating both Fitness and, until recently, Nutrition and Diet, I think it's largely true, a lot of women haven't a clue about good nutrition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    g'em wrote: »
    It's not just women though, it's men too

    That was my problem with it tbh. The average knowledge level is very low (or people don't really care). No question about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    yeah, but a lot of clueless women talk about it a lot and have all these crap tips they pick up, like putting vinegar on chips sucks up the fat and reduces calories.

    clueless men just don't give a **** and don't talk about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭ladyA


    1. If you can do one thing - cut out sugar and artificial sweeteners completely. I used to be obsessed with fat content and calorie counting and would think it was okay to enjoy a treat now and then like a low fat (sugar filled) yogurt but if your serious you have to go cold turkey on the sugar. After 3 days you won't want it. Watch out for relishes and tomato based pasta sauces. And don't kid yourself that brown sugar is okay - its not.

    2. Chew your food properly. I heard this for years but if you do it properly it goes a hell of a lot of away. Food should be like a liquid when it goes down your throat - there should be no recognizable shapes. Your stomach doesn't have teeth. Put your fork/spoon down between every mouthful and treat eating like a meditative thing whereby you are nourishing your body. If you do this properly you won't want to eat crap because as you break them down in your mouth and taste the synthetic food - its disgusting. Eat slowly and never eat when you are stressed. Do nothing else while you eat - concentrate on the food.
    Digestion is one of the most underestimated things when it comes to weight loss. So Chew Chew Chew. It takes a while to train yourself to chew properly given that you have probably being mindlessly wolfing down food for years but once you have it cracked, your stomach will feel sore when you look at others eating so quickly and without chewing. Remember the food on the plate is going nowhere fast.

    3. Limit your intake of processed grains. Forget ryvitas, bread - all that crack. Its highly processed and gluten is not the easiest thing to digest. Potatoes are fine despite their rep as is Quinoa.

    4. Eat plenty of good fat - nuts, seeds, avocados, oily fish. It won't make you fat. (to a point - a bag of nuts day is probably pushing it)

    5. Eat plenty of fresh fruit and veg - Yes okay you hear this all the time but do it. You need to find a good supplier of quality fruit and veg. Sometimes I walk in to Tesco and its clear why people don't eat enough of the stuff given the shocking quality of what is on offer. If you are really chewing your food right you will taste it and you will begin to appreciate things like good bananas. About 60% of your food intake should be plant based.

    6. Exercise - it doesn't have to be intense - just 30 minutes of brisk walking three times a week will help. Sometimes its hard to get going which is weird because it makes you feel good and is mentally clearing. It seems to be this psychological thing whereby we think of it as a painful chore that is un enjoyable. Its not - its good, its gonna make you get what you want - get going - no excuses!

    7. Don't eat when you aren't hungry and try not to snack. Contrary to popular belief the digestive system works best with rest time in between meals. Also stop when you are about 80% full. Overeating is not good in any sense - even if its healthy food you are eating - the intestines will become inflamed and you will store fat on your stomach to protect them.

    8. Another tip is to identify your wobbliest area e.g. a fatty stomach! Put your hand on this area if you are tempted to eat something crap and say will this food help my stomach get any better? No it won't - put it down, step away, you deserve better.

    Good luck


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Liposuction?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 mclouge


    Im not sure if this worked for you.
    I've started taking Acai Power Slim tablets in the last week and i've noticed that im very down and depressed about things, nothing seems to pick me up and i've lost all interest in work and excercise and healthy diet....The only thing i can assume is that its these tablets... I wont be finishing them..
    Can anyone tell me if they had the same experience ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    mclouge wrote: »
    Im not sure if this worked for you.
    I've started taking Acai Power Slim tablets in the last week and i've noticed that im very down and depressed about things, nothing seems to pick me up and i've lost all interest in work and excercise and healthy diet....The only thing i can assume is that its these tablets... I wont be finishing them..
    Can anyone tell me if they had the same experience ??

    From personal experience, as well as speaking to many others I can say most of these dietary pills are a complete waste of money.
    I did a search of the Acai Power Slim Tablets, and basically all I could find was 1-sided biased reviews, and any negative comments on the product seemed to have been deleted from their websites.

    If you are looking to get healthier, either by losing or gaining weight, the only real keys are diet, exercise and will-power.

    Take a poke around the Health and Fitness forum and read up on some tips to help you out.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    As this thread is two years old I'm locking it.

    Please follow the very good advice given by Sonic in the last post.

    Maple


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