Groups of friends

doesn't work so well having more than one as far as i can see. bring out a really sound canadian lad tonight who gets started on by one of my friends who's hammered. pretty bad so i walk home. everything very awkward.


i'm sitting here thinking i'm not gonna introduce anyone new to this group of friends again which is such a bad buzz but seems like the only option.

how in the hell does it work in ireland? (and doyler, get an account already..)

ottostreet

what the hell are you talking about?

enniscorthy

Deleted User wrote: »

doesn't work so well having more than one as far as i can see. bring out a really sound canadian lad tonight who gets started on my one of my friends who's hammered. pretty bad so i walk home. everything very awkward.


i'm sitting here thinking i'm not gonna introduce anyone new to this group of friends again which is such a bad buzz but seems like the only option.

how in the hell does it work in ireland? (and doyler, get an account already..)

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Carsinian Thau

I think he means that if you have a few sets of friends that you shouldn't introduce one set of friends to another set. It'll only cause trouble.

And OP, yeah, I've noticed the same. It can work but it usually doesn't.

ottostreet

Carsinian Thau wrote: »

I think he means that if you have a few sets of friends that you shouldn't introduce one set of friends to another set. It'll only cause trouble.

And OP, yeah, I've noticed the same. It can work but it usually doesn't.

i should have specified..
"how in the hell does it work in ireland? (and doyler, get an account already..) "

what does ireland have to do with it? i do agree somewhat though, my group of friends from college and group of friends from home are a bit...different. im sure theyd all get along, but i think it would take a while. no real opportunity for it to happen though

Carsinian Thau

Carsinian Thau wrote: »

I think he means that if you have a few sets of friends that you shouldn't introduce one set of friends to another set. It'll only cause trouble.

And OP, yeah, I've noticed the same. It can work but it usually doesn't.

ya got it in one.. pretty annoyin tho that most of ireland are in closed circles.

Super-Rush

enniscorthy wrote: »

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This is the only time i will agree with this reply

davyjose

Deleted User wrote: »

doesn't work so well having more than one as far as i can see. bring out a really sound canadian lad tonight who gets started on my one of my friends who's hammered. pretty bad so i walk home. everything very awkward.


i'm sitting here thinking i'm not gonna introduce anyone new to this group of friends again which is such a bad buzz but seems like the only option.

how in the hell does it work in ireland? (and doyler, get an account already..)

Misread this the first time round. That someone you know would get aggressive with another friend of yours, a guest of yours, kinda just has ARSEHOLE written all over it.

i know certain groups don't mix well, but the above is unacceptable. I just wouldn't hang out with someone like that. BAD form.

yea that's what i needed to hear.. anyways it's done now, learnt my lesson on mixing it up with old friends. bs.!

CHD

Make them fight to the death to earn your friendship.

Nodin

CHD wrote: »

Make them fight to the death to earn your friendship.

...he can then put up a video and blow by blow account on his fascinating blog.

Cianos

I have several different groups of friends. I would never not ask anyone out because they are from different groups, and if they don't get along it's their own problem.

Abi

Deleted User wrote: »

doesn't work so well having more than one as far as i can see. bring out a really sound canadian lad tonight who gets started on by one of my friends who's hammered. pretty bad so i walk home. everything very awkward.


i'm sitting here thinking i'm not gonna introduce anyone new to this group of friends again which is such a bad buzz but seems like the only option.

While I agree that some groups of friends can be on a different wave length to others, I think you are over-looking a bigger problem about last night. Your friend started on this guy, and it wasn't very cool at all tbph. I feel sorry for the Canadian guy to be stuck in a situation like that.

You need to speak to your Canadian friend first and foremost, and apologise profusely for the crap last night. Then I'd go and have some very strong words with the guy who started on him, his actions were those of a scumbag to put it lightly. It only takes one twat to ruin everyones night.

Kiera

I've never had problems mixing friends but then again i dont hang around with dickheads.

Quazzie

Abigayle wrote: »

It only takes one twat to ruin everyones night.

Or make it

King of Kings

if your Canadian mate rings D4 hotels and Failte Ireland and tell them about his bad experience in Ireland with Irish People they'll put him up for free in a penthouse and give him a wedge of cash just cos.

I heard it happened to some texans.

the_syco

Meh. My metal friends and non-metal friends know each other, but I can't see them chilling in the same room together. No aggro, but just a case of: why would they?

El Siglo

OP just out curiousity, are your old friends educated? This makes a difference because if they've gone through the whole 'third level experience' then they're less likely to be as aggressive to anyone new to the group.

Quazzie

El Siglo wrote: »

OP just out curiousity, are your old friends educated? This makes a difference because if they've gone through the whole 'third level experience' then they're less likely to be as aggressive to anyone new to the group.

What a crock of shít!! You are trying to tell us that people who have taken part in third level education are less violent, and less likely to attack someone? I'd call troll except you're around long enough to know better, and I actually think you believe that crap.

Abi

El Siglo wrote: »

OP just out curiousity, are your old friends educated? This makes a difference because if they've gone through the whole 'third level experience' then they're less likely to be as aggressive to anyone new to the group.

Don't be ridiculous.

IvyTheTerrible

El Siglo wrote: »

OP just out curiousity, are your old friends educated? This makes a difference because if they've gone through the whole 'third level experience' then they're less likely to be as aggressive to anyone new to the group.

Oh yeah some one who went to uni has never kicked seven shades of crap out of anyone?? \guffaw\ :rolleyes:

tman

davyjose wrote: »

Misread this the first time round. That someone you know would get aggressive with another friend of yours, a guest of yours, kinda just has ARSEHOLE written all over it.

i know certain groups don't mix well, but the above is unacceptable. I just wouldn't hang out with someone like that. BAD form.

Aye, get some new friends who don't start on newcomers for no reason... Problem solved!

El Siglo

Quazzie wrote: »

What a crock of shít!! You are trying to tell us that people who have taken part in third level education are less violent, and less likely to attack someone? I'd call troll except you're around long enough to know better, and I actually think you believe that crap.

I should have explained better, did the exact same thing as op, when after I went to college I brought one of the lads to my home town, ended up in a big fight for no reason except my school friend (who started the sh*t) said 'that lad's a stuck up c*nt' and the person he was refering to was anything but stuck up. It's not a matter of education, it's experience (and isn't college not a form of 'experience?), and from what I've found people who've left home, etc... done all that 'independence' sh*te are less like to be aggressive to 'outsiders' than the knobs who don't, hence the 'educated' thing, but this has happened to loads of people that I know whenever they introduce college friends or whatever to their other friends and it's always one knob to start a row who hasn't left home etc...

El Siglo

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Oh yeah some one who went to uni has never kicked seven shades of crap out of anyone?? \guffaw\ :rolleyes:

Not that I've ever seen, I've yet to meet somebody who's gone off and in this case gone to college who have beaten up people etc... it's always been the arse hole who's never left home or is just a scum bag in general, has issues or something that tends to start sh*t.

Nodin

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Oh yeah some one who went to uni has never kicked seven shades of crap out of anyone?? \guffaw\ :rolleyes:

And, if you're a prospective 3rd level student, you can kick the shite out of some one, and have the trial after your college years.

(This of course only applied to 'good people')

bakkiesbotha

Quazzie wrote: »

What a crock of shít!! You are trying to tell us that people who have taken part in third level education are less violent, and less likely to attack someone? I'd call troll except you're around long enough to know better, and I actually think you believe that crap.

Is that all you ever say?

You don't seem to have any arguments to disprove him.

Of course educated, well-off people are less violent than uneducated poor people. This is so incredibly obvious that it beggars belief that anyone could challenge it.

IvyTheTerrible

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

Is that all you ever say?

You don't seem to have any arguments to disprove him.

Of course educated, well-off people are less violent than uneducated poor people. This is so incredibly obvious that it beggars belief that anyone could challenge it.

What planet are you living on?

Abi

El Siglo wrote: »

I should have explained better, did the exact same thing as op, when after I went to college I brought one of the lads to my home town, ended up in a big fight for no reason except my school friend (who started the sh*t) said 'that lad's a stuck up c*nt' and the person he was refering to was anything but stuck up. It's not a matter of education, it's experience (and isn't college not a form of 'experience?), and from what I've found people who've left home, etc... done all that 'independence' sh*te are less like to be aggressive to 'outsiders' than the knobs who don't, hence the 'educated' thing, but this has happened to loads of people that I know whenever they introduce college friends or whatever to their other friends and it's always one knob to start a row who hasn't left home etc...

While 'Life experiences' and living independantly change some people, it isn't always the case for others. But that is irrelevant. It is more to do with your perception of right and wrong and maturity. Those are traits that are either there, or they are not.

Quazzie

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

Is that all you ever say?

You don't seem to have any arguments to disprove him.

Of course educated, well-off people are less violent than uneducated poor people. This is so incredibly obvious that it beggars belief that anyone could challenge it.

Aren't we lucky we never hear of colelge educated students going around campus with semi-automatics blowing the heads off anyone they meet.

Oops my bad, there aer plenty of examples of that.

LINK

bakkiesbotha

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

What planet are you living on?

We're all living on the same planet, silly!

The right-on point of view here is to accept that poverty and lack of education cause criminality and to protest the causes of social exclusion, rather than to deny the undeniable.

Abi

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

The right-on point of view here is to accept that poverty and lack of education cause criminality

Oh christ.

bakkiesbotha

Quazzie wrote: »

Aren't we lucky we never hear of colelge educated students going around campus with semi-automatics blowing the heads off anyone they meet.

Oops my bad, there aer plenty of examples of that.

LINK

Yes, there are plenty of examples of that.

But there are many more - hundreds of times more - examples of poor, uneducated people committing acts of senseless violence.

Like starting a fight with someone because they look different to them, or talk differently.

Slow Motion

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

We're all living on the same planet, silly!

The right-on point of view here is to accept that poverty and lack of education cause criminality and to protest the causes of social exclusion, rather than to deny the undeniable.

No! Criminals cause criminality. I am from a very poor working class background. And hearing this PC bull**** crap trotted out everytime some scumbag acts like a scumbag really pisses me off. I come from the same background and so do most of my friends. Neither I or they have ever been in trouble with the law or caused any trouble for others. What's the difference between me and the scumbag who grew up on the same street? I learned to consider the consequences of my actions and care about others. Education or money had nothing to do with it, good parenting had everything to do with it. Just because I was poor I didn't see that as an excuse or reason to become a criminal.

Quazzie

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

Yes, there are plenty of examples of that.

But there are many more - hundreds of times more - examples of poor, uneducated people committing acts of senseless violence.

Like starting a fight with someone because they look different to them, or talk differently.

Its probably appropriate to the ratio of educated:uneducated. I seriously doubt the ratios are disproportionate.

tman

tman wrote: »

Aye, get some new friends who don't start on newcomers for no reason... Problem solved!

they're the newcomers

bakkiesbotha

Slow Motion wrote: »

No! Criminals cause criminality. I am from a very poor working class background. And hearing this PC bull**** crap trotted out everytime some scumbag acts like a scumbag really pisses me off. I come from the same background and so do most of my friends. Neither I or they have ever been in trouble with the law or caused any trouble for others. What's the difference between me and the scumbag who grew up on the same street? I learned to consider the consequences of my actions and care about others. Education or money had nothing to do with it, good parenting had everything to do with it. Just because I was poor I didn't see that as an excuse or reason to become a criminal.

I wasn't stating this point of view as representative of my own views. The right-on posters were fluffing their lines, by denying something that even the slightest glance at any violent crime statistics will tell you. I was just providing them with a bit of a prompt.

Of course scumbags are scumbags. I even suspect that there might be a discrete gene pool that they are drawn from.

smileysurfer

El Siglo wrote: »

OP just out curiousity, are your old friends educated? This makes a difference because if they've gone through the whole 'third level experience' then they're less likely to be as aggressive to anyone new to the group.

Your joking right??
You HAVE to be joking! what a ridiculously ignorant/naive thing to say! :rolleyes:

ya-ba-da-ba-doo

Im in a situation similar to the op except it hasn't happened yet. Im bringing a friend from dublin to my grad (debs) at the end of the summer. Im really anxious that she might feel arkward around my friends and i just hope the night goes well!

Slow Motion

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

I wasn't stating this point of view as representative of my own views. The right-on posters were fluffing their lines, by denying something that even the slightest glance at any violent crime statistics will tell you. I was just providing them with a bit of a prompt.

Of course scumbags are scumbags. I even suspect that there might be a discrete gene pool that they are drawn from.

I understood that, my post was directed at the attitude!

daveyboy_1ie

Kiera wrote: »

I've never had problems mixing friends but then again i dont hang around with dickheads.

Brillant, sums it all up really. Sets of friends are not the issue, its the fact you hang around with someone who thinks its ok to get hammered and start on strangers is what would be worrying me.

daveyboy_1ie

daveyboy_1ie wrote: »

Brillant, sums it all up really. Sets of friends are not the issue, its the fact you hang around with someone who thinks its ok to get hammered and start on strangers is what would be worrying me.

true. but i've never seen this lad like this in 4 years.. just unfortunate really.

Smart Bug

bakkiesbotha wrote: »

I wasn't stating this point of view as representative of my own views. The right-on posters were fluffing their lines, by denying something that even the slightest glance at any violent crime statistics will tell you. I was just providing them with a bit of a prompt.

Of course scumbags are scumbags. I even suspect that there might be a discrete gene pool that they are drawn from.

Please people, observe the sign:

Sign

Ishmael

This happens to one of my friends. He has a group of friends from back home that i find to be complete arseholes. Despite numerous attempts to try and get on with them, they just made no effort on their part so it just aint going to work.

Cianos

the_syco wrote: »

Meh. My metal friends and non-metal friends know each other, but I can't see them chilling in the same room together. No aggro, but just a case of: why would they?

That's what I don't get about metal heads...it's the only genre that seems to have this exclusivity/clique-ness.

/off topic

Smart Bug

Cianos wrote: »

That's what I don't get about metal heads...it's the only genre that seems to have this exclusivity/clique-ness.

/off topic

It's 'cos anyone who listens to genres of music other than metal are a sub-species of humanity and should not be fraternised with.


I haven't really noticed groups of my friends not getting on, I think it really comes down to personalities and individuals not gelling so to speak.

Imo OP, you're friend was a complete twat for starting on your other friend, or on anyone really for that matter.

Latchy

Slow Motion wrote: »

No! Criminals cause criminality. I am from a very poor working class background. And hearing this PC bull**** crap trotted out everytime some scumbag acts like a scumbag really pisses me off. I come from the same background and so do most of my friends. Neither I or they have ever been in trouble with the law or caused any trouble for others. What's the difference between me and the scumbag who grew up on the same street? I learned to consider the consequences of my actions and care about others. Education or money had nothing to do with it, good parenting had everything to do with it. Just because I was poor I didn't see that as an excuse or reason to become a criminal.

Well said Slow Motion .

daveyboy_1ie

Deleted User wrote: »

true. but i've never seen this lad like this in 4 years.. just unfortunate really.

I can kind of see your point, I have a very good friend who is the nicest guy in the world without drink, but once he starts he tends to get overdrunk and then changes personaility. the bottom line is we don;t go out awith him anymore. Its for his own good really.

Kevin Bacon

i don't know ads by google this guy who started on him sounds like a stand up guy. these canadians coming over here taking all our jobs and our women who they think they are? its a pity we dont have more people like him in our pubs.
And anyway whose to say that Canadian didn't start on him?:mad::)

PS jean claude van ham wouln't fit in the username space hence Kevin bacon.
by the way he probably feels no remorse because he cant remember it.

Slow Motion

Kevin Bacon wrote: »

i don't know ads by google this guy who started on him sounds like a stand up guy. these canadians coming over here taking all our jobs and our women who they think they are? its a pity we dont have more people like him in our pubs.
And anyway whose to say that Canadian didn't start on him?:mad::)

PS jean claude van ham wouln't fit in the username space hence Kevin bacon.
by the way he probably feels no remorse because he cant remember it.

Not to mention eating our swans, we should tell them all to get the foook ooot eh!

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

(and doyler, get an account already..)

Kevin Bacon wrote: »

i don't know ads by google this guy who started on him sounds like a stand up guy. these canadians coming over here taking all our jobs and our women who they think they are? its a pity we dont have more people like him in our pubs.
And anyway whose to say that Canadian didn't start on him?:mad::)

PS jean claude van ham wouln't fit in the username space hence Kevin bacon.
by the way he probably feels no remorse because he cant remember it.

nice lol :rolleyes:

SoWatchaWant

El Siglo wrote: »

OP just out curiousity, are your old friends educated? This makes a difference because if they've gone through the whole 'third level experience' then they're less likely to be as aggressive to anyone new to the group.

Not the popular opinion but... you've hit the nail on the head there.;)