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Why are Irish people getting so fat??

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭golum


    Just comes down to food really, no great mystery. More in than out,fat. More out than in, thin. Simple as that.Irish people are stuffing their faces more than ever before. Doesn't help matters that poor /welfare dependent people wouldn't eat fruit or vegetables even under threat of execution, (and they also avoid work and exercise like the plague)


  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭starflake


    Since the 60's agriculture has gone into serious decline, IT industry started to grow.

    Since 2000 The housing industry started to decline, unemployment on the rise.

    Each leading to decline in physical activity.

    Huge urbanisation since the sixties also. There's always a McDonalds around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    topper75 wrote: »
    Excuses: 1,000,000,000
    Reasons: 1 (laziness)
    i'd reply, but i can't due to 1 reason. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 mucho


    dont pis the spank off or she will invade........

    might create a few jobs .....


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Milky Moo


    Americanization is an Americanisation!

    Yes OP it is glandular and genetics and the fact we are big boned.
    It only happened to start to affect us now that we are eating alot more crappy food and living more sedentary lifestyles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭RHunce


    i heard somewhere that obesity was more of a problem, especially with kids in the late 70's and throughout the 80's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    Because jogging, running, roller-blading, yoga, pilates and tai chi are gay. Tag-rugby is middling. Swimming is cold. Football is hard to organise.

    Microwavable burritto is ready in 45 seconds.

    QED.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    id have to say the introduction of the national confectionary companys jungle jellies to the market, an 8 month knee injury, and learning to drive is my reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭CPT. SURF


    Been living in the states for 10 years. Went back to Cork this summer for a holiday, had not been back in 5 years. So many fat people, even more than where I live in Florida (though I live in a beach community where the weather is good and the outdoor lifestyle is promoted).

    Whatever the reason, there are way more fatties in Ireland than there was when I was growing up in the 80s. Fact


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    I've been fat my whole life. That's 17years :o

    I blame t.v., computers, technology to make things easy, lazyness, the poor summer weather, scumbags mocking you as you pass them for no reason, people you know for a long time suddenly turning their back against you. I hate them so much. :mad:

    But I also blame myself for not doing anything about it. Kinda makes me feel sad really. There's just no motivation there. I even thought that the chart in my signature would motivate me, but it doesn't.

    Ah well, that's life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭CPT. SURF


    Larkin you can do it man!!!! Join a 5 a side team, go swim in the evenings. You only get 1 life , make the most of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Answer = 86551.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Larkin501 wrote: »
    I've been fat my whole life. That's 17years :o

    I blame t.v., computers, technology to make things easy, lazyness, the poor summer weather, scumbags mocking you as you pass them for no reason, people you know for a long time suddenly turning their back against you. I hate them so much. :mad:

    But I also blame myself for not doing anything about it. Kinda makes me feel sad really. There's just no motivation there. I even thought that the chart in my signature would motivate me, but it doesn't.

    Ah well, that's life.
    That's sad to hear man. I'd advise you check out the fitness forum, and the diet and nutrition forum. Some very motivational stuff going on there. You should try taking up rugby, loads of big men are needed there and it's a great way to get fit. Most people are very nice. Just check out this thread and it'll show you how friendly rugby teams are. :) Go to the rugby forum to get information on clubs, or go to your local club if you know it. Loads of people starting in the club I'm in this year to get fit.
    If you're near a pool I'd advise swimming. If your worried about showing off your man-gut go in the early morning or late evening when all the kiddies will be gone.
    If you can't do all that, why don't you just invest in an iPod and go for a long, nice walk every day. Nothing that'll knock you out, but just to get your heart-rate up abit for 30 minutes. As long as you can hold a conversation, your not going too fast. Or sign up to the challenge in either the Fitness or Diet and Nutrition forum, I can't recall which one it is.

    Seriously, I know you can be completely demotivated, especially when you've been overweight/obese for a long time. You begin to feel it's just impossible for you to lose weight. But when I started watersports and was **** at it I just wanted to get fitter so I'd be good at it. You just need to start something for motivation. Like getting fitter for rugby or whatever.

    I'm assuming your a fellow by the way (Larkin) but if not women's rugby is great too along with all the other things I said. I'm not sure of your age either but everything I said applies no matter what age you are. Take some risks and it'll pay off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    jumpguy wrote: »
    That's sad to hear man. I'd advise you check out the fitness forum, and the diet and nutrition forum. Some very motivational stuff going on there. You should try taking up rugby, loads of big men are needed there and it's a great way to get fit. Most people are very nice. Just check out this thread and it'll show you how friendly rugby teams are. :) Go to the rugby forum to get information on clubs, or go to your local club if you know it. Loads of people starting in the club I'm in this year to get fit.
    If you're near a pool I'd advise swimming. If your worried about showing off your man-gut go in the early morning or late evening when all the kiddies will be gone.
    If you can't do all that, why don't you just invest in an iPod and go for a long, nice walk every day. Nothing that'll knock you out, but just to get your heart-rate up abit for 30 minutes. As long as you can hold a conversation, your not going too fast. Or sign up to the challenge in either the Fitness or Diet and Nutrition forum, I can't recall which one it is.

    Seriously, I know you can be completely demotivated, especially when you've been overweight/obese for a long time. You begin to feel it's just impossible for you to lose weight. But when I started watersports and was **** at it I just wanted to get fitter so I'd be good at it. You just need to start something for motivation. Like getting fitter for rugby or whatever.

    I'm assuming your a fellow by the way (Larkin) but if not women's rugby is great too along with all the other things I said. I'm not sure of your age either but everything I said applies no matter what age you are. Take some risks and it'll pay off.

    Savage post Jumpguy. A1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    jumpguy wrote: »
    That's sad to hear man. I'd advise you check out the fitness forum, and the diet and nutrition forum. Some very motivational stuff going on there. You should try taking up rugby, loads of big men are needed there and it's a great way to get fit. Most people are very nice. Just check out this thread and it'll show you how friendly rugby teams are. :) Go to the rugby forum to get information on clubs, or go to your local club if you know it. Loads of people starting in the club I'm in this year to get fit.
    If you're near a pool I'd advise swimming. If your worried about showing off your man-gut go in the early morning or late evening when all the kiddies will be gone.
    If you can't do all that, why don't you just invest in an iPod and go for a long, nice walk every day. Nothing that'll knock you out, but just to get your heart-rate up abit for 30 minutes. As long as you can hold a conversation, your not going too fast. Or sign up to the challenge in either the Fitness or Diet and Nutrition forum, I can't recall which one it is.

    Seriously, I know you can be completely demotivated, especially when you've been overweight/obese for a long time. You begin to feel it's just impossible for you to lose weight. But when I started watersports and was **** at it I just wanted to get fitter so I'd be good at it. You just need to start something for motivation. Like getting fitter for rugby or whatever.

    I'm assuming your a fellow by the way (Larkin) but if not women's rugby is great too along with all the other things I said. I'm not sure of your age either but everything I said applies no matter what age you are. Take some risks and it'll pay off.

    Thanks for the post. I was thinking of a few personal things that happened in my life that has set me back from motivation. Then I thought "F*** it. Get up and do something". I live nowhere near a rugby team but I might take up walking in the mornings or evenings. It might life my spirits up a little :pac:

    I said to myself "There's always going to be people who criticise you for who you are, what you do, what you look like. But the strongest people are those who overcome those knockdowns."

    It's time for me to stop living in the past and think of the future :cool:

    Again, thanks.

    And yeah, I'm a man :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Yeah man, also, and this is up to you, but don't tell your friends your plan. Humans being what they are, their criticisms, annoying "slagging" or jokes can demotivate you, even if that's not exactly your friends intent.
    I know how it is with ***** on the street slagging you and calling you fat either in your face and behind your back, especially when you're a teen too. Find a quiet track or whatever, or grow a thick skin. Those ****ers do nothing but prosper of your misery. Don't let them win, keep going. Also remember, public gyms (always), swimming pools (out of peak hours) and whatever almost always have mature adults who don't give a **** what you're doing or how you look. Gyms are not only places for big bulgy iron-pumping men, but a good walk on a treadmill is great too.
    It's a pity you don't live near a rugby club, unless you have no interest whatsoever in rugby it's a very good and motivational way to get fit. You could try asking around your community just incase there is a small one you don't know about.

    Walking is great though, very good way to get fit and after a month of walking every day (or atleast 4 or 5 days out of the week) you'll start noticing a difference in your fitness. Seriously, check out the forums and you'll understand.

    I'd also recommend cycling but I personally find cycling abit lonely when I'm alone for some reason, but I'd be happy out walking alone!



    I know you might be wondering why I'm saying this, but having been overweight myself and then losing the weight (well, most of it), I get flustered when people can't do it after I have. There is lots of challenges, a good bit of it coming from other people, a good bit of it coming from yourself. If only I could share my experience, when you come out of the other end of the tunnel the feeling of accomplishment and improvement of confidence is apparent. You might keep failing, but failure is part of life. You'll lose some battles at times, your self-esteem will be low, bad things will happen in your life, there'll be days when you can do nothing, but aslong as you don't give up the war, that's the important thing.

    Now, I'll stop badgering you. :pac: Good luck!


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    golum wrote: »
    Just comes down to food really, no great mystery. More in than out,fat. More out than in, thin. Simple as that.Irish people are stuffing their faces more than ever before. Doesn't help matters that poor /welfare dependent people wouldn't eat fruit or vegetables even under threat of execution, (and they also avoid work and exercise like the plague)

    Its hard to keep the balance right...If you slog it out on the treadmill for half an hour, go home and eat a mars bar, then all the running is undone.

    One mars bar FFS!!


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    Larkin501 wrote: »
    There's just no motivation there.

    www.sparkpeople.com can be very motivational. Depending on your psyche. It is free too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭yank_in_eire


    I know I'm a total bastard for saying this,but geez! This has turned into the "feel good" thread of the century.....sniff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    I know I'm a total bastard for saying this,but geez! This has turned into the "feel good" thread of the century.....sniff

    I wasn't expecting such great feedback off some of the boardsies for what I wrote.

    Some people just take their weight very personally. Before I could laugh it off, but now if I'm mocked/insulted for no reason then I go into a drastic rage. It's gone too far now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    I know I'm a total bastard for saying this,but geez! This has turned into the "feel good" thread of the century.....sniff
    Better that than an American, of all people, telling us we're fat. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭superbad50


    i blame women on men getting fat , i used to be in great nick then let my girlfriend move in , before i knew it , instead of making my own din or sometimes not bothering i would just have what she was having , aload of fried crap , more convenience than anything , before u know it ur slouching watching the soaps with a desert , get lazy , put on the weight and then when u realise ok back to the gym , u hope on the treadmill for 10 mins and are out of breath .

    how the hell can you let urself get this bad in a short space of time . since have woken up , do my own thing , eat when hungry , watch the diet and instead of watching lazy tv , get ass down to gym or park for a jog . thankfully i am back to my superior masculine self . ooh ya :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭jackson2009


    alchohol and spuds! carb central!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Jayo Robards


    Quite simple. Bad diet, Junk food specificially. I was a regular junk food eater until recently. Stopped eating it completely about 3 weeks ago. Already lost 1/2 a stone. Didn't even do a hint of exercise to achieve that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Quite simple. Bad diet, Junk food specificially. I was a regular junk food eater until recently. Stopped eating it completely about 3 weeks ago. Already lost 1/2 a stone. Didn't even do a hint of exercise to achieve that.

    The Saturday night special of 8 or 9 pints followed by a McDonalds/pizza/BK/Abra/miscellaneous poisons. That's not going to help anyone stay skinny. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    The Saturday night special of 8 or 9 pints followed by a McDonalds/pizza/BK/Abra/miscellaneous poisons. That's not going to help anyone stay skinny. :pac:

    Fair point. But being Ireland, it's how a lot of us socialise on weekends.

    The real killer in terms of weightgain is to sit on the couch the day after such calorie intake.

    Instead - do what you can to get rid of the hangover, and get out and about by lunchtime the next day. You'd be surprised what a half hour unbroken walking would do in terms of metabolism. The heart rate lifts slightly and the body sort of says to itself - hey we're in gear here - let's find some carbs/fat deposits to burn. It's a start and half the battle.

    One thing that is critical to weight loss is finding a buddy with the same goal in mind and go out with them, maybe every other evening. We are social creatures. Just the thought that someone else is expecting you to go with them can really help you off the couch when the weather ain't great and you are tired after work or whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    topper75 wrote: »
    Fair point. But being Ireland, it's how a lot of us socialise on weekends.

    The real killer in terms of weightgain is to sit on the couch the day after such calorie intake.

    Instead - do what you can to get rid of the hangover, and get out and about by lunchtime the next day. You'd be surprised what a half hour unbroken walking would do in terms of metabolism. The heart rate lifts slightly and the body sort of says to itself - hey we're in gear here - let's find some carbs/fat deposits to burn. It's a start and half the battle.

    One thing that is critical to weight loss is finding a buddy with the same goal in mind and go out with them, maybe every other evening. We are social creatures. Just the thought that someone else is expecting you to go with them can really help you off the couch when the weather ain't great and you are tired after work or whatever.

    But it's so much easier to wrap your head up in your duvet, then get out of bed at 6pm and have a dirty big fry-up!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Why are Irish people getting so fat?

    'Cos their too flippin' lazy to get off their collective asses and take to the streets?
    Protesting in an organised march is very good exercise ya know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    1. Irish women - we were never taught to cook 'properly' hence we now go for convenience foods. Men can hardly take care of themselves - pitiful creatures altogether

    2. Increase in convenience foods with high sat fat. A girl in my office obsessed with loosing weight even though size 10 didnt know there were diff types of fat (she is in her 30's) . Mental

    3. That leads on to poor nutrional information. My sister is such a bad eater - all McD's and chocolate. When she feels like loosing weight, she just doesnt eat!!

    4. Money and jobs - increase in wealth hence more cars less walking. Also, who here can walk 20min to shop grab supplies for week and walk back home. Not many I guess. So planning of new estates and houses fits here

    5. Laziness - this took over my life for years as a teenager. The slaggings, was easier to accept being fat. As I got older I realised I didnt have to 'settle' for acceptance of this. I moved my fat ass (or arse in Ireland)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭DeCoR18


    Dudess wrote: »
    Countdown to particular focus on Irish women starts... now.

    So I hear theres a fair few Irish women who are fat slags?

    Thanks.

    DeCoR


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Fugly


    Damn you,,, :P.. I've avoided raising to the bait all day but....

    . "Irish women - we were never taught to cook 'properly' hence we now go for convenience foods. Men can hardly take care of themselves - pitiful creatures altogether"

    AW,, that sentence just hurts to read.. no I won't I'm walking away.... I'm taking the high road....:o I need the exercise. ....

    It's not an individual's fault, if another person is fat, {parent child relationship excluded}. It's one's responsibilty to take of their own health, it is not acceptable to shift the blame. In this day and age with the accessibility to information regarding nutrition and exercise there is no reason not to be informed.

    .....I'm still going to take the high road I need some cardio. :o


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    DeCoR18 wrote: »
    So I hear theres a fair few Irish women who are fat slags?

    Thanks.

    DeCoR
    Oh DeCoR, still upset about being found out that you have a girlfriend of 4 years but asking in tLL about the Irish dating scene?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭DeCoR18


    taconnol wrote: »
    Oh DeCoR, still upset about being found out that you have a girlfriend of 4 years but asking in tLL about the Irish dating scene?

    Shouldn't you be calling me Tyrone Nigga?:cool:

    Best wishes.

    DeCoR.

    Ps Wibbs let the grudge go man I'm sorry!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    LouOB wrote: »
    1. Irish women - we were never taught to cook 'properly' hence we now go for convenience foods. Men can hardly take care of themselves - pitiful creatures altogether)


    Speak for yourself,pitiful creatures, indeed. My mammy never taught me how to put on a johnny, but through sheer determination, I learned. Seriously, pick up a cookery book, it aint that difficult.
    LouOB wrote: »
    2. Increase in convenience foods with high sat fat. A girl in my office obsessed with loosing weight even though size 10 didnt know there were diff types of fat (she is in her 30's) . Mental)

    She is a healthy size. She must be eating healthily.
    LouOB wrote: »
    3. That leads on to poor nutrional information. My sister is such a bad eater - all McD's and chocolate. When she feels like loosing weight, she just doesnt eat!!)

    Your sister has an eating disorder.
    LouOB wrote: »
    4. Money and jobs - increase in wealth hence more cars less walking. Also, who here can walk 20min to shop grab supplies for week and walk back home. Not many I guess. So planning of new estates and houses fits here

    If you want to exercise, you can. Money is not a factor, if you have it you can join a gym, if you dont you can join a sports team or take up jogging.
    LouOB wrote: »
    5. Laziness - this took over my life for years as a teenager. The slaggings, was easier to accept being fat. As I got older I realised I didnt have to 'settle' for acceptance of this. I moved my fat ass (or arse in Ireland)

    Sorry to hear about that, but that is your personal problem, I rarely see many overweight teens in Ireland(compared to other countries).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭smythwicks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    i think the latest bad 80's clothing craze in ireland for girls (pair of brightly coloured curtains with ballet shoes and black leggings is perfect for hiding any beer and 4 star pizza induced 'overhang'.....so if you meet someone you can imagine they are thin and then close your eyes when they take their clothes off....win win for both partys:pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    i think the latest bad 80's clothing craze in ireland for girls (pair of brightly coloured curtains with ballet shoes and black leggings is perfect for hiding any beer and 4 star pizza induced 'overhang'.....so if you meet someone you can imagine they are thin and then close your eyes when they take their clothes off....win win for both partys:pac::pac::pac:

    Hmmm...now if only we could come up with a solution to hide Irish men's faces, then everyone wins. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    its easy, no money+recession+eurosaver menu= two ton circle of fun(lard asses)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    They built a lidl right across the road from my house.

    The bastards, I can't resist the low low prices...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    is anyone else secretly quite chuffed that a lot of the skinny attractive looking eastern european types that have been here a while are all starting to go a bit pudgy round the middle? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Don't know if this has been posted on this thead yet but:

    www.thisiswhyyourefat.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    vibe666 wrote: »
    is anyone else secretly quite chuffed that a lot of the skinny attractive looking eastern european types that have been here a while are all starting to go a bit pudgy round the middle? :D

    only if you're an irish girl id guess....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭happyfriday


    LouOB wrote: »
    1. Irish women - we were never taught to cook 'properly' hence we now go for convenience foods. Men can hardly take care of themselves - pitiful creatures altogether

    Ah now come on, speak for yourself there now, I was thought to cook 'properly' thank you very much and most of my friends are great cooks also, that includes men (well the 2 chefs anyways :D). And what does 'properly' mean anyways? I can cook very healthy food, which is what I have most days, and when I'm having the odd dinner party it is not so healthy food, like a homemade lamb rogan josh with extra sour cream!! :D :eek:

    I think the difference in Ireland now is that people tend to overdo it at times, high cal food is fine every now and again as a treat. But even when eating healthy it's important to exercise, it's also great when you feel angry, sad, tired, drained or bored!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    vibe666 wrote: »
    is anyone else secretly quite chuffed that a lot of the skinny attractive looking eastern european types that have been here a while are all starting to go a bit pudgy round the middle? :D

    Some of them are quite pudgy in the right places too - God bless em.

    Do the cut those jeans off every night and sew them back on in the morning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Don't know if this has been posted on this thead yet but: www.thisiswhyyourefat.com
    that's freaking awesome! :D

    awww, now i'm hungry. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    vibe666 wrote: »
    is anyone else secretly quite chuffed that a lot of the skinny attractive looking eastern european types that have been here a while are all starting to go a bit pudgy round the middle? :D
    only if you're an irish girl id guess....:D

    Or a Nigerian guy... boom boom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 861 ✭✭✭KeyLimePie


    well i work in a petrol station and sometimes wonder how did this person get so fat and then they come up to me with a half kg bag of pick and mix worth 2,500 calories at least and then i go oh right.............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    Or a Nigerian guy... boom boom.

    very true....i worked with a nigerian guy.....loved his big asses....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    very true....i worked with a nigerian guy.....loved his big asses....

    How on earth do you notice such??....any confessions to make he/:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    ha my thread moving here is very weird.I get the point that you are trying to make but jesus h christ.Anyway moving swiftly on...

    When i was in Florida I saw many people who were too fat to walk and had to use a wheel chair to get around.I thought at first it may have just been someone with elephantitus but someone who knows more about it told me otherwise.


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