Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread [mod warning #11145, #32140 (see OP)]

wobblyknees

Melion wrote: »

Torres' right leg(i think) catches the right knee of the chilean

It 110% does.

wobblyknees

Jazzy wrote: »

jesus... a football players reputation is worth f**k all when it comes to cheating. Torres has dived before, he dived tonight and he will dive again.

If you think thats a foul then frankly, your opinion of what is or isnt a foul is worth f-all tbf. just because its fernando torres doesnt mean it wasnt embarrassing. the mere fact that you are even trying to defend it and say that torres went down fairly is making all liverpool fans here look bad. please stop

Nothing to do with Torres, it was a foul. Where did i say Torres 'went down fairly'?

Melion

wobblyknees wrote: »

It 110% does.

Still not a foul though

LuckyLloyd

Torres made a pigs ear of that, no question.

But before the droolers get on their high horses:

Professional players dive, from all teams, in all leagues. They also foul cynically from all over the footballing world; remonstrate with referees; try to get away with handballs etc, etc.

If you attempt to kick up some fuss about this or any other similar incident to make some sort of club on club point you are ignoring reality.

FunkZ

Melion wrote: »

Torres' right leg(i think) catches the right knee of the chilean

I do not see it at all!

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Nah my friend, I meant that it was embarassing to see how much of a dive it was. :P

It is ridiculous, and I feckin' love him like.

wobblyknees

Melion wrote: »

Still not a foul though

It wasn't a professional foul, but it was a foul. The ref probably shouldn't have given a direct free kick though.

jesus_thats_gre

wobblyknees wrote: »

It 110% does.

Even if it was a foul, there was no need to roll around for 5 mins. That's the issue!!

mink_man

wobblyknees wrote: »

Should be able to offer some excellent opinions on the match so.

Do you agree it was a foul?

that was clearly not a foul!....

wobblyknees

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Even if it was a foul, there was no need to roll around for 5 mins. That's the issue!!

5 minutes??

wobblyknees

mink_man wrote: »

that was clearly not a foul!....

It was a foul.

jesus_thats_gre

wobblyknees wrote: »

5 minutes??

Jesus christ!

Jazzy

wobblyknees wrote: »

Nothing to do with Torres, it was a foul.

well then you dont know what a foul is

Melion

wobblyknees wrote: »

It wasn't a professional foul, but it was a foul. The ref probably shouldn't have given a direct free kick though.

Im sorry but what? Want to explain that bit?

Spain scored straight away, no free kick was given

wobblyknees

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Jesus christ!

He wasn't on the ground for 5 minutes. No way.

OPENROAD

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

But before the droolers get on their high horses:

Professional players dive, from all teams, in all leagues. They also foul cynically from all over the footballing world; remonstrate with referees; try to get away with handballs etc, etc.

If you attempt to kick up some fuss about this or any other similar incident to make some sort of club on club point you are ignoring reality.

Supporters do it all the time though, look at the way people took the high moral ground over Thierry.

As I have said before, player from your team does something, its clever play or ah well everyone does it, something is done against your team, its cheating/ shameful and of course you get the old well if one of my players did it, I would be honest and call them a cheat line.

wobblyknees

Jazzy wrote: »

well then you dont know what a foul is

I do, I looked it up in google to make sure.

Melion

wobblyknees wrote: »

I do, I looked it up in google to make sure.

Ah jesus, you have to be on a wind-up

Helix

Melion wrote: »

Torres' right leg(i think) catches the right knee of the chilean

wobblyknees wrote: »

It 110% does.

so free out for torres kicking the defender

Helix

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Professional players dive, from all teams, in all leagues. They also foul cynically from all over the footballing world; remonstrate with referees; try to get away with handballs etc, etc. .

and every one of them should be publically lambasted for it, especially by their own fans

wobblyknees

Melion wrote: »

Ah jesus, you have to be on a wind-up

What gave it away?

Melion

Helix wrote: »

and every one of them should be publically lambasted for it, especially by their own fans

The only person trying to defend Nando is wobblyknees

mink_man

if thats a foul then I'm Lionel Messi which is obvious, im not which means that isnt a foul!

LuckyLloyd

Helix wrote: »

and every one of them should be publically lambasted for it, especially by their own fans

Precisely my point.

K-9

It is seriously dodgy.

Well played wobblyknees, well played.

What it has got to do with Liverpool, I don't know, but it must have some link, hence all the posts.

argosy2006

Torres was not looking at player, so when he felt contact he assumed it was deliberate and went down accordingly , because when you think you were kicked you go down, but it wasn't a kick, seems to me torres trailing leg caught chileans player just below knee,
so it wasn't a foul or a dive, as its not diving to go down when u think the contact you received was on purpose ,
but in replay torres will himself know it was a cumming together, and probably has already said sorry to player involved,
as for the fact torres stayed down so long, he felt it was a personal attack, a off the ball deliberate lash out by chilean, and was making sure ref took action,
but again the replay will show that in fact it was not a off the ball lash out,

The defence rests

kingshankly

mink_man wrote: »

if thats a foul then I'm Lionel Messi which is obvious, im not which means that isnt a foul!

any chance of an autograph

Peyton Manning

argosy2006 wrote: »

Torres was not looking at player, so when he felt contact he assumed it was deliberate and went down accordingly , because when you think you were kicked you go down, but it wasn't a kick, seems to me torres trailing leg caught chileans player just below knee,
so it wasn't a foul or a dive, as its not diving to go down when u think the contact you received was on purpose ,
but in replay torres will himself know it was a cumming together, and probably has already said sorry to player involved,

The defence rests

Jesus Christ, its thinking like that that allows pussies like Torres, Ronaldo, Iniesta and co. to get away with.

Just because you think there was contact doesn't rule it out being a dive. A dive is choosing to go down when you could just as easily stay on your feet. You've said Torres thought it was deliberate so he went down accordingly

THAT MAKES IT A DIVE.

wobblyknees

Archimedes wrote: »

Jesus Christ, its thinking like that that allows pussies like Torres, Ronaldo, Iniesta and co. to get away with.

Just because you think there was contact doesn't rule it out being a dive. A dive is choosing to go down when you could just as easily stay on your feet. You've said Torres thought it was deliberate so he went down accordingly

THAT MAKES IT A DIVE.

It wasn't, he was clearly fouled. Even if it was unintentional.

argosy2006

Archimedes wrote: »

Jesus Christ, its thinking like that that allows pussies like Torres, Ronaldo, Iniesta and co. to get away with.

Just because you think there was contact doesn't rule it out being a dive. A dive is choosing to go down when you could just as easily stay on your feet. You've said Torres thought it was deliberate so he went down accordingly

THAT MAKES IT A DIVE.

no it doesnt , going down when you feel u been fouled is ok, of course the player can be wrong and replay might prove that contact was not a foul,but at time in players head he assumes it is as he hasnt eyes in back of his head,,
a dive is when no contact is made,, yet player dives to ground to try will a free kick or pen

Peyton Manning

argosy2006 wrote: »

no it doesnt , going down when you feel u been fouled is ok, of course the player can be wrong and replay might prove that contact was not a foul,but at time in players head he assumes it is as he hasnt eyes in back of his head,,
a dive is when no contact is made,, yet player dives to ground to try will a free kick or pen

You've just described a dive, well done.

People dont seem to realise a foul and a dive can occur at the same time. Use your head for Christ's sake.

wobblyknees

Archimedes wrote: »

You've just described a dive, well done.

People dont seem to realise a foul and a dive can occur at the same time. Use your head for Christ's sake.

He wasn't looking at the Chilean player when he felt contact so it can't be a dive.

Peyton Manning

wobblyknees wrote: »

He wasn't looking at the Chilean player when he felt contact so it can't be a dive.

That make's fúck all sense and you know it. Stop trolling.

Cypher_sounds

Torres tripped over his own leg imo, i wasnt minding whether he was looking for a free or 'pretended' to be injured, but the ref just persumed he had been clipped from behind so he gave him the yellow, that was my view of it

wobblyknees

Archimedes wrote: »

That make's fúck all sense and you know it. Stop trolling.

:eek: Stop taking the internet so seriously man!

Jazzy

wobblyknees wrote: »

:eek: Stop taking the internet so seriously man!

stop wasting time, man!

argosy2006

Archimedes wrote: »

You've just described a dive, well done.

People dont seem to realise a foul and a dive can occur at the same time. Use your head for Christ's sake.

well it was an off the ball foul in torres's mind, so he did stay down a long time for lil contact that was made
so that is wrong, but torres did not realise at time it was an accident,
i'm thinking he thought he was kicked off the ball, so had every right to stay down and bring attention to the incident,
But he was WRONG, clearly no foul ,yet contact was made so had right to go down as he thought it was deliberate, if only he had eyes in back of his head, then he would have seen what happened and just popped up and continued game,
show me a foul where he dives with zero contact made,

Cypher_sounds

wobblyknees wrote: »

:eek: Stop taking the internet so seriously man!

Real football fans have strong opinions on things even the smallest of incidents which is why it makes the game so interesting and gets people together on a site like this chatting genuinely about it, but it seems your are seriously taking the piss on this incident and then you go and tell someone to lighten up, seriously man quit the bullsh*t

K-9

argosy2006 wrote: »

well it was an off the ball foul in torres's mind, so he did stay down a long time for lil contact that was made
so that is wrong, but torres did not realise at time it was an accident,
i'm thinking he thought he was kicked off the ball, so had every right to stay down and bring attention to the incident,
But he was WRONG, clearly no foul ,yet contact was made so had right to go down as he thought it was deliberate, if only he had eyes in back of his head, then he would have seen what happened and just popped up and continued game,
show me a foul where he dives with zero contact made,

Brilliant.

cantgetright

anything about L.F.C

argosy2006

cantgetright wrote: »

anything about L.F.C

exactly, :rolleyes:

daithijjj

argosy2006 wrote: »

well it was an off the ball foul in torres's mind, so he did stay down a long time for lil contact that was made
so that is wrong, but torres did not realise at time it was an accident,
i'm thinking he thought he was kicked off the ball, so had every right to stay down and bring attention to the incident,
But he was WRONG, clearly no foul ,yet contact was made so had right to go down as he thought it was deliberate, if only he had eyes in back of his head, then he would have seen what happened and just popped up and continued game,
show me a foul where he dives with zero contact made,

That is exactly what happened.

Sometimes when i read posts on this forum i wonder whether some folk have ever played ball themselves.

Id also just make a point that the player who got the yellow had been lucky not to get a second yellow previously.

In respect of liverpool fc, torres looks a million miles off full fitness imo. Not that i give a monkeys what he does for spain.

LuckyLloyd

argosy2006 wrote: »

well it was an off the ball foul in torres's mind, so he did stay down a long time for lil contact that was made
so that is wrong, but torres did not realise at time it was an accident,
i'm thinking he thought he was kicked off the ball, so had every right to stay down and bring attention to the incident,
But he was WRONG, clearly no foul ,yet contact was made so had right to go down as he thought it was deliberate, if only he had eyes in back of his head, then he would have seen what happened and just popped up and continued game,
show me a foul where he dives with zero contact made,

daithijjj wrote: »

That is exactly what happened.

Sometimes when i read posts on this forum i wonder whether some folk have ever played ball themselves.

Id also just make a point that the player who got the yellow had been lucky not to get a second yellow previously.

In respect of liverpool fc, torres looks a million miles off full fitness imo. Not that i give a monkeys what he does for spain.

You two have hopped the fence here. You're telling me:

1) It's okay to pretend you're more hurt than you actually are and stay on the ground for a long time if you think you were touched off the ball irrespective of whether you're actually sore or not;

2) If you are touched you have every right to throw yourself to the ground irrespective of whether the contact is sufficient to knock you off your feet or not;

And to top it off, if one disagrees with the above, they clearly haven't played ball themselves?



I'm off into town to watch an Irish team play a man's sport.

Pighead

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'm off into town to watch an Irish team play a man's sport.

Indeed. Best of luck to the womens under 17's!

wobblyknees

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Real football fans have strong opinions on things even the smallest of incidents which is why it makes the game so interesting and gets people together on a site like this chatting genuinely about it, but it seems your are seriously taking the piss on this incident and then you go and tell someone to lighten up, seriously man quit the bullsh*t

Hahahaahha. Ok, you're right. I promise I'll go to the pub this afternoon to watch a game of football and I'll make an extra special effort to shout at the tv when something happens. Will that make me a real football fan?

mike65

Car crash overnighter I see, anyway it seems LFC have tried to get Didier Deschamps but its been rebuffed in no uncertain terms by his boss.

wobblyknees

Pighead wrote: »

Indeed. Best of luck to the womens under 17's!

Clever.

wobblyknees

mike65 wrote: »

Car crash overnighter I see, anyway it seems LFC have tried to get Didier Deschamps but its been rebuffed in no uncertain terms by his boss.

mike65

Look it up! I've had up to here with this thread! :mad:

shotamoose

mike65 wrote: »

Car crash overnighter I see, anyway it seems LFC have tried to get Didier Deschamps but its been rebuffed in no uncertain terms by his boss.

Hilarious write-up of this from PA:

Marseille claim Deschamps approach
(UKPA) – 43 minutes ago
Marseille president Jean-Claude Dassier has revealed Liverpool have contacted him about Didier Deschamps, but he has told them they have no chance of tempting the Ligue 1 winning coach away from Stade Velodrome.
Speculation has been rife over who will take charge at Anfield since Rafael Benitez left the club at the beginning of the month, with Kenny Dalglish and Roy Hodgson among the current frontrunners. However, Dassier claims Deschamps is the man Liverpool want.
"It's true, Liverpool's executive director, Christian Purslow, called me Thursday morning," the OM chief told L'Equipe.
"He speaks French very well, is very polite. I was expecting his call because I had heard of Liverpool's interest in Didier. He asked me if I would allow him to meet Didier and (agent) Jean-Pierre Bernes.
"I replied that I would never forbid anyone from meeting whoever.
"I also kindly indicated to him that there wasn't the slightest chance for him to pinch our coach. Even in his dreams."

I like this guy's style.

Giving Purslow the benefit of the doubt and assuming that he's not just flapping about in a blind panic, this and the rumoured approach to Frank Rijkaard make it sound like we're still at the short-listing stage as opposed to the "about to announce appointment of Roy Hodgson" stage.

wobblyknees

mike65 wrote: »

Look it up! I've had up to here with this thread! :mad:

Why, because someone asked you where you had read a story?