Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

mike65

Found a gem? Valencia was quite well advertised methinks.

I see young Michael has not found favour with The Don.

Headshot

mike65 wrote: »

I see young Michael has not found favour with The Don.

brilliant news

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

saw the early editions of tomorrows newspapers on ssn

and the people had utd being linked with david Moyes as our next manager

hopefully not anytime soon

not sure do people know this story but Moyes was offered the assistant job at utd but utd turned him down iirc,fergie said somthing like "he reminds him too much of himself"

i would love to see moyes as utd manager in a few yrs,always rated him

seems like a really odd story - way too early for anything anywhere close to concrete happening, even if Fergie was to retire at the end of this season.

allthedoyles

Headshot wrote: »

brilliant news

He needs to let his football do the talking

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

seems like a really odd story - way too early for anything anywhere close to concrete happening, even if Fergie was to retire at the end of this season.

I know must be a slow newsday


I'd say Fergie wont be going anywhere for a few years yet

DM_7

Okay so its news of the world

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/443499/Inside-the-Reds-talent-factory.html

Story about united link up with Desportivo Brasil

This is the first time access has been granted to Manchester United's academy project in Brazil, a multi-million pound investment cut deep into Sao Paulo's crusty terrain.

Just three months into this amazing programme they opened their doors, giving Sport of the World the freedom to walk around this first-class facility 90 minutes outside the city limits.

It is here that the 108 teenagers, some of them with posters of Cristiano Ronaldo on the walls of their dormitories, dream of earning a multi-million pound move to Old Trafford. United have first option to sign the youngsters for a pre-agreed, fixed fee after signing a partnership agreement with Desportivo Brasil earlier this year.

"If one player is considered good enough to move to Manchester United, it will prove we are doing the right thing and heading in the right direction," claimed academy manager Rodolfo Canavesi.

"If they don't make it as professional footballers with United, they will have a second language and that will open up other opportunities for them," added Canavesi.

"For a Brazilian who can speak English, it means they can instantly get work in hotels, they can work in business, finance or another area."

Far more can be read through the link

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Regarding Ritchie De Laet's name:
What do ye say Ritchie De 'layet'or Ritchie De 'lat'?
I say De Layet myself.

Eire-Dearg

baz2009 wrote: »

Regarding Ritchie De Laet's name:
What do ye say Ritchie De 'layet'or Ritchie De 'lat'?
I say De Layet myself.

I thought it was pronounced "De Lay".

Smegball

Richie De 1337 for me :pac:

Mitch Connor

DM-ICE wrote: »

Okay so its news of the world

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/443499/Inside-the-Reds-talent-factory.html

Story about united link up with Desportivo Brasil





Far more can be read through the link

Hopefully we do some talented players sign for united through that link. Dodo was seemingly to be the first, but i read the other day that we have pulled the plug on that deal, for the time being at least.

Mitch Connor

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/443807/Owen-Hargreaves-crocked-United-star-faces-six-months-out.html

OWEN HARGREAVES has secretly flown to Germany in a bid to save his Manchester United career.

The England midfielder, 27, has been having treatment all week at the Munich clinic of top knee specialist Dr Hans Muller-Wolfahrt.

Hargreaves went to Munich after his latest setback and, although Sir Alex Ferguson said Hargreaves would return in 'two to three weeks', Muller-Wolfahrt told the player it could take SIX MONTHS.

During the visit it emerged that his tendinitis has 'similarities' to the condition of tennis star Rafa Nadal. Both suffer from the knee complaint because they base their games on short bursts of speed from standing starts.

Hargreaves, who had been at Dr Richard Steadman's surgery in Colorado, is expected to fly back to America this week for more rehabilitation.

But there are further trips planned to Muller-Wolfahrt as Hargreaves fights to save his career. The pair have a long-standing relationship from Hargreaves' time at Bayern Munich, where Muller-Wolfahrt is the club doctor.

The England star has not played for United since the 1-1 draw at Chelsea on September 21 2008.

If this turns out to be the case, United simply can't afford to think of him as a squad player anymore. If it is going to be another 6 months, and even then we can't be sure he'd come back, we have to simply forget about including him in player number/types and replace him, now. We need a player like him, and it looks like he is not going to be it, so we need to look at bringing someone in who can be our solid DM.

I like Hargreaves, seems like a good guy and is an excellent player when he can play, but he can't play and we have to move on.

It doesn't look like United will try to replace him, and even if we tried to i don't know who we could go for, Lassana Diarra would have been a good option last January, but i can't think of anyone available now. De Rossi would probably one of the first choices to look at, but Roma won't sell and he doesn't want to go.

As I say, I would love to see Hargreaves back, but we really can't afford to be sitting on this til February/March and hoping he can play some part then.

Paul Tergat

FFS.

If this is indeed another 6 months I really feel we need to look elsewhere. I really rate Hargraves very highly but for the fee we paid and the hassle it took getting him the return we have had is just not good enough. I feel sorry for him as he is such a talented player but it looks like he will never be right at this stage.

Dave!

Just dont post NOTW links

seriously

just dont bother, there is no benefit in that

DM_7

No matter how true the Hargo story is it shows how well united did last season when he hasn't played since September 21 2008!

I do think fergie should sign a replacement. That way if Hargeaves is fit we have two top players for the Holding role which wouldn't be a bad thing. Otherwise we are relying on Fletcher again this season.

Quandary

Fletcher is only 25 and if he continues to improve like he has done over the last 2 seasons then he will be a very very good player. There arent any players out there that can be gotten for a reasonable price & be an improvement on what we have imo. I wouldnt have minded us getting Aquilani, if he settles in the prem he could be impressive but the scouse got their dirty mits on him .



Really looking forward to the game today & itll have a big impact on my FF team

i think Chelsea will be the biggest threat to us this yr + itll be nice to get a test run against them today.

Aidric

Fletch probably doesn't get the credit he deserves. He was one of our most important players last campaign and his game is improving all the time.
It looks like a forlorn hope that Hargreaves will ever get back to full fitness, it's a shame cause he offered a lot to the Utd set up.

DM_7

Fletcher has improved, I used to think oh **** not fletcher when he was selected, now I don't mind so much.

But if we are relying on fletcher I would be worried. I think he is a limited player that has worked hard to adapt his game to what united need. He deserves credit for that and he deserves some game time.

But I would prefer to go into a new season with Fletcher as a squad player rather than a guy we have to rely on.

Quandary

DM-ICE wrote: »

Fletcher has improved, I used to think oh **** not fletcher when he was selected

I was exactly the same & used to think Fergie maybe had a bit of a soft spot for him over the Scottish thing but i really think he's become more than just a squad player. Fair enough his first touch isnt the best but if he's played in front of the back four it think he can do a decent job for us.

Personally id be more concerned about our lack of a top class attacking midfielder if Ando doesnt step up!

Theres talks flying around of Sneijder beign linked with spurs/villa. If he is happy to come to England Fergie would be mad not to make a bid for him imo.

Stokes

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Hopefully we do some talented players sign for united through that link. Dodo was seemingly to be the first, but i read the other day that we have pulled the plug on that deal, for the time being at least.

What happened to the Dodo deal exactly?

ShoulderChip

Stokes wrote: »

What happened to the Dodo deal exactly?

it became as dead as a ....

Headshot

Stokes wrote: »

What happened to the Dodo deal exactly?

extinct

Mitch Connor

ShoulderChip wrote: »

it became as dead as a ...

lol. back on track;)

Not sure what happened with the Dodo deal, only read it on one site during the week, probably Tribal.

There was never any confirmation from United on the deal to begin with, so if it has been called of then it also be hard to find that out for sure.

It may turn out there was never a proper deal agreed, may turn out there was and that there still is.

ShoulderChip

Headshot wrote: »

extinct

too schlooow mo fo

Mitch Connor

http://www.tribalfootball.com/man-utd-pull-plug-deal-corinthians-youngster-dodo-261706

Manchester United have pulled the plug on a deal for Corinthians defender Dodo.

The Times says United have decided not to sanction a £5.5 million deal to sign Dodô, the Corinthians defender, in the immediate future but will continue to monitor the 17-year-old Brazilian after he spent two weeks on trial recently.

The youngster was expected to move to United in February.

there is the article. Tribal Football seemingly rereporting The Times

ROCKMAN

Hello everyone (again)

Fcuking fantastic back to business . The end of all the rummours ,speculation and all that BULL (nearly), Back to what really matters games and results.
Looking forward to todays game ,First real chance to gauge this season squad against serious opposition.

So best off luck to us all and hope all your dreams and ambitions come through this season

Harpy

is there going to be a separtate match thread for today or can we talk about it in here?

Mitch Connor

Harpy wrote: »

is there going to be a separtate match thread for today or can we talk about it in here?

there already is one.

Headshot

great to see martins starting for Ipswich

come on ipswich

Harpy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

there already is one.

yea just saw it now woops

Pro. F

Mitch Connor wrote: »

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/443807/Owen-Hargreaves-crocked-United-star-faces-six-months-out.html



If this turns out to be the case, United simply can't afford to think of him as a squad player anymore. If it is going to be another 6 months, and even then we can't be sure he'd come back, we have to simply forget about including him in player number/types and replace him, now. We need a player like him, and it looks like he is not going to be it, so we need to look at bringing someone in who can be our solid DM.

I like Hargreaves, seems like a good guy and is an excellent player when he can play, but he can't play and we have to move on.

It doesn't look like United will try to replace him, and even if we tried to i don't know who we could go for, Lassana Diarra would have been a good option last January, but i can't think of anyone available now. De Rossi would probably one of the first choices to look at, but Roma won't sell and he doesn't want to go.

As I say, I would love to see Hargreaves back, but we really can't afford to be sitting on this til February/March and hoping he can play some part then.

The NOTW story doesn't change anything for us (fans on this board) really. Hargreaves may be back soon, he may be back in 6 months, he may never recover. We knew that already.

I do agree that we need to replace him, sort of.. Personally I'm not including him in any thoughts about what our formation or squad should or could be. He's gone as far as i'm concerned and if he should happen to rise from the dead then all well and good but i don't expect it and i'm planning without it. I think Ferguson is thinking this way too.

So that leaves the question why hasn't Fergie replaced him. I think he doesn't see anybody suitable that is available in this crazy market. Also i really think that Fergie sees this as a rebuilding year. We can struggle along with what we have in CM for now. And by next summer the market will have calmed down and we can get in a new CM.

I know that struggling along with our weak central midfield sounds shocking bad. I've been complaining about our CM since Keane left tbh. I wasn't and still am not happy with Carrick or Hargreaves (because of injury) when they came in or now. We need a top class, well rounded, reliably fit CM imo. Now that Ronaldo is gone the problem is even more acute. But who can we get at this moment? Look at the ridiculous gamble Liverpool just had to take on Aquallani - they had no option. It might pay off but they had to do it. We are taking a different gamble imo - we're gambling that we can get by with what we have and then get better next summer.

Or maybe i'm completely wrong. Maybe Fergie sees Carrick as our long term first choice CM. I really, really hope not.

Vampireskiss

Looks fairly good

http://5magazine.rioferdinand.com/1K4a489c3c379dc012.cde

stovelid

God, it's like The Face.

The more elderly viewers will know what I mean.

Eire-Dearg

What's with the welcome message?

SK1979

United Bench:

Kuszczak
Fabio
Giggs
Valencia
Gibson
Scholes
Owen

For todays match, where's Ando? Injured?

ghouldaddy07

Thank god football is back. Hope we get a result today, should give the team some momentum and confidence.

kev_s88

a non too shabby start to the season for Nani

Mitch Connor

United desperately need a top quality CM, today showing that quite easily again.

Fergie needs to do something about it.

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

United desperately need a top quality CM, today showing that quite easily again.

Fergie needs to do something about it.

fail

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

fail

how? Seriously, you think our midfield did enough against Chelsea for the majority of the game? I don't.

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

how? Seriously, you think our midfield did enough against Chelsea for the majority of the game? I don't.

na im only joking

but its a friendly that's all

Headshot

shopping list :

midfielder and goalie

Harpy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

United desperately need a top quality CM, today showing that quite easily again.

Fergie needs to do something about it.

yeah definatley, but who could we get?

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

shopping list :

midfielder and goalie

Fergies shopping list:

LW
LW
LW
ST
ST
LW

titan18

I think Fletcher is good enough to be the defensive midfielder but I would like for someone to come in instead of Carrick.A player who can get on the ball and control the tempo.I don't think Carrick is good enough against the top teams.What we have at the moment is perfect in the Premiership, but going into Europe,I don't think it's strong enough.

Not comfortable at all with Foster or PIG.It's reminiscent of the Schmeichel era ending and if we don't find someone to replace VDS, it could end up the same.

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Fergies shopping list:

LW
LW
LW
ST
ST
LW

loves his strikers and LW's alright

the likes of fletch are a brilliant squad player,but too limited for the 1st team.

he should just let hargreaves go..

but on the upside Nani was superb today bar his defensive **** up

jesus_thats_gre

Carrick actually reminded me quite of bit of Alonso during the period where United were dominating. Lasted until Chelsea upped the tempo and really put him under pressure.

herbieflowers

Mitch Connor wrote: »

United desperately need a top quality CM, today showing that quite easily again.

Fergie needs to do something about it.

Hopefully United will replicate last season's form. Pick up enough points against everyone outside the top four, minimises the absence of top quality in the centre of midfield!

Eire-Dearg

Headshot wrote: »

shopping list :

midfielder and goalie

Goalie? I thought ye'd go with Foster and Kuzskak (sp) until VDS came back.

Headshot

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Goalie? I thought ye'd go with Foster and Kuzskak (sp) until VDS came back.

just call him the pig,most man utd fans can't be arsed to remember his name

VDS is 38yrs old and the other 2 wont be good enough as first choice for utd

Headshot

still cant believe wesley sneijder is at madrid,unless some clubs are waiting till near the end of the transfer window to pick up a good deal,wesley should be gone to a top club by now

love to see him at utd