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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread
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p_larkin99 wrote: »Oh ok, makes more sense then.
A lot of that comes down to the fact that Fletch is not normal, he just doesnt stop running
In Carricks defence I think thats just not what he's asked to do. When say you were talking earlier about tracking runs when the FB isnt there then Carrick will do this but first and foremost he is there to cover the runs centrally and also a lot of what he does goes unseen. Instead of making tackles he will intercept. I just think he's an incredibly intelligent footballer and gets way too much flak on here.
I can't remember where but I know Fletcher highlighted Redondo as one of his favourite players so its fair to say he has modelled himself on Redondos style of play.
I have no problems with carrick at all. He is a player who will link the midfield and the attack and I do think he is a responsible player. He does make many interceptions. His focus is on going forward so it is hard for him to always see where danger is coming from in defence so he wouldn't cover ground like fletcher. In attack he is a very good player.0 -
redzerdrog wrote: »no didnt mean never ever I am sure he scored a few in training aswell but I was talking about the premier league. I just think he is a very limited player and think fletcher offer yas a lot more.
that's funny because I think fletch is limited and ando offers more
people tend to forget ando's brilliant games like arsenal in the 1st leg of the CL
also he has been unlucky with injuries and has had his 1st pre-season with utd this summer
so lets see how ando goes this season0 -
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that's funny because I think fletch is limited and ando offers more
people tend to forget ando's brilliant games like arsenal in the 1st leg of the CL
also he has been unlucky with injuries and has had his 1st pre-season with utd this summer
so lets see how ando goes this season
opinions-thats what its all about
i have been wrong many times before and i am sure many times come sure up till a year or two ago i taught fletcher and o shea belonged in the championship and they have both more than proved otherwise0 -
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His age could be a factor. Growing pains could stop him training properly and cause his little injuries
Pure speculation on my part.
Sorry to pi$s on your theory a bit
...but, apparently, when you're growing you can actually train better and more often because the cell repair is better in growing bodies which makes recovery easier. It gets harder to recover from exercise as you get older.
Hopefully he's just had bad luck with injuries and it's all nothing more significant than that.0 -
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Sorry to pi$s on your theory a bit ...but, apparently, when you're growing you can actually train better and more often because the cell repair is better in growing bodies which makes recovery easier. It gets harder to recover from exercise as you get older.
Hopefully he's just had bad luck with injuries and it's all nothing more significant than that.
sorry to piss on your theory but that's kinda wrong
perfect example is petrucci atm,he has gowing pains and had stopped training
he got the pains from training afaik0 -
Sorry to pi$s on your theory a bit ...but, apparently, when you're growing you can actually train better and more often because the cell repair is better in growing bodies which makes recovery easier. It gets harder to recover from exercise as you get older.
Hopefully he's just had bad luck with injuries and it's all nothing more significant than that.
I was going to say that I'd imagine the age factor will work in his favour. As a young player he should be able to go much longer than the older pros. The challenge maybe just him chanelling his enthusiasm, maybe going a bit more quiet for a few minutes of the game to allow him to have more impact in the 2nd half. I dunno, its just something I find frustrating when he's replaced around the hour mark as it's pretty evident that he's knackered.
Still love him though0 -
sorry to piss on your theory but that's kinda wrong
perfect example is petrucci atm,he has gowing pains and had stopped training
he got the pains from training afaik
Can people stop pissing on each other please :pac:
Growing pains may affect someone to an extent but at Andos age I imagine there aint much more growing to do. We shall see if this season will be any different.0 -
Sorry to pi$s on your theory a bit ...but, apparently, when you're growing you can actually train better and more often because the cell repair is better in growing bodies which makes recovery easier. It gets harder to recover from exercise as you get older.
Hopefully he's just had bad luck with injuries and it's all nothing more significant than that.
Tell that to Kevin Grogan!
I'm sure what happened that young man is one of the reasons united prefer to focus on a young players ability than over training.0 -
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wasnt really referring to ando but some people dont stop growing until their early 20s
Yeah I got what you were saying mate. I was just pointing out that I dont think its really applicable to Ando as he's at the age where most will stop growing.
Generally, the young kids who come through at an early age are the those that have already developed physically. Its often how they get ahead and are noticed, they tend to be stronger and quicker than the other 99% of kids their age and thats often why they stand out.
Take Macheda for example, he's a beast of a lad for his age but I would very much doubt he will grow much further. I know he's still young and obviously I cant say for sure he wont get any bigger (other than him doing his weights etc) but I doubt he'll have growing pains up till the age of 20.
I think I sorta made that clear
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nobody could have seen ronaldo ending up as best player in the world after his first 50 games for united.
He isn't the best player in the world though. Messi is and that's a fhact.im just saying what the fans thought about him when he first signed for manchester united,usually ya get most peoples opinions when yer watchin a game somewhere ie the pub.theres no way you thought hed end up as best player in the world at that time ,from watching his performances.
You mean they couldn't see 3 years into the future ? What kind of pissheads in a pub can't see into the future ?0 -
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p_larkin99 wrote: »Yeah I got what you were saying mate. I was just pointing out that I dont think its really applicable to Ando as he's at the age where most will stop growing.
Generally, the young kids who come through at an early age are the those that have already developed physically. Its often how they get ahead and are noticed, they tend to be stronger and quicker than the other 99% of kids their age and thats often why they stand out.
Take Macheda for example, he's a beast of a lad for his age but I would very much doubt he will grow much further. I know he's still young and obviously I cant say for sure he wont get any bigger (other than him doing his weights etc) but I doubt he'll have growing pains up till the age of 20.
I think I sorta made that clear
More speculating on my part:)
I only brought it up as Ando was pretty big when he joined united so probably had a growth spurt early. But when he was developing he may have suffered a bit with over training and his body keeps breaking down because of it even a couple of years later.
He does seem to get a fair share of little injuries.
Of course they could just be explained by the fact his fitness is low when he returns and as he plays catch up he gets re-injured a few weeks later...... hmm0 -
p_larkin99 wrote: »Yeah I got what you were saying mate. I was just pointing out that I dont think its really applicable to Ando as he's at the age where most will stop growing.
Generally, the young kids who come through at an early age are the those that have already developed physically. Its often how they get ahead and are noticed, they tend to be stronger and quicker than the other 99% of kids their age and thats often why they stand out.
Take Macheda for example, he's a beast of a lad for his age but I would very much doubt he will grow much further. I know he's still young and obviously I cant say for sure he wont get any bigger (other than him doing his weights etc) but I doubt he'll have growing pains up till the age of 20.
I think I sorta made that clear
actually while you mentioned kiko
utd expect kiko to grow a bit more actually
so he's 6ft atm,wonder how tall he can get0 -
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p_larkin99 wrote: »Were they talking about height? Or as in him filling out like Ronaldo did.
When we signed him he was tall but pretty thin and he was clearly put on the weights early and became an absolute beast.
height i think mate
idk even know why we're talking about this
anyway lets change the topic to something we usually always talk about
whose going to take the frees
can valencia take frees ?0 -
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redzerdrog wrote: »so he played 1 good pass that led to pass that assisted a goal, this is what makes a creative for you guys. come on surely a creative player has to be more.
sure if van der sar hit a 60yard pass to rooney who then set owen up for goal would he be called a creative player?
maybe fantasy football should start giving points for assisting and assist for a goal
Sorry but that argument makes you look like youve never watched football before. Either that or you are trying to piss me off? becuase im not sure if someone who read what i said and thought i said all assists are creative can actually be serious.
Here is what i was talking about that. It is creative. Not too many players would have pulled that off.
What i dont understand is why you have to question our liking of Anderson. Whats it to you if United fans who watch him every week think highly of him?0 -
Too much pisssorry to piss on your theory but that's kinda wrong
perfect example is petrucci atm,he has gowing pains and had stopped training
he got the pains from training afaik
hmm I don't doubt what you say is true. My knowledge comes from combat sports like boxing and muay thai, maybe the different demands of football have a different effect somehow that cause trouble for some young guys who are growing.0 -
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