Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

The_Kew_Tour

People forget we only finished a point behind Chelsea last season.

We could very easily have won Champions League had we had bit luck against Bayern(who deserved to go through may I add)

I still think Chelsea would have found the going much tougher had they got further in Champions League themselves.

I dont see anyone cathing United or Chelsea next season at least anyway.

If we get a world class Midfielder we have every chance of retaining the Premiership.

PHB

adrian, while that is certainly true, the fact is, we didn't.

We lost to Bayern. We lost to Chelsea. And we missed the chance at another double.
Why did we lose to Bayern? Most people will point to the red card, but the fact of the matter is we were ****e in the first leg, and we concedded soft goals. IMO the primary reason for this was the weakness of our central midfield. Carrick ****ing up makes it very visible, but in general, we were just overrun.
The same was true against Chelsea.

Now, Chelsea are going to strengthen. The manager is going to have a second year on the job so they will get better. They've already gotten rid of some chaf, like Cole and Ballack, and are sure to replace them with youth talent.

They are without a doubt our main rivals for the PL, but Arsenal, Spurs or City imo could put together a decent run. We will need to win a lot more tougher games. This is where the central midfield comes in, and this is where we fell down.

We played Chelsea twice last year, and lost twice. That, right there, was the league. You need to be able to beat the team at least once, and frankly, I have really no hope that we could take them considering our current team.

Everyone else, everyone, is going to improve this summer (bar Liverpool but who cares). We need to strengthen in midfield for us to have a shot at the league.

As for the CL, Barca are only going to get better, as are Madrid. Barca just spend 50 million on Villa and Mata, despite winning the league. Mourinho just hired one of, if not the, best manager in the world. Inter are going to be a little weaker, but Rafa is poor in the transfer market, but great with tactics, and he has a damm good squad there to work with.

We need to strengthen. If we get a world class central midfielder, it might be enough. But for that to be enough, the following things also need to happen:

- Rooney will have to maintain last years form
- Berbatov will have to find top form
- Nani will have to maintain his second half of the season form
- Valencia will have to do the same
- Anderson will need to make a come back to the top level
- Fletcher will need to maintain his form
- Ferdinand will need to find fitness
- Hargreaves needs to be back and playing

If two of these things don't happen, imo, we don't have a chance. We need to strengthen in central midfield, but we also need to strengthen on the wings. If Berbatov can't find form, we need a striker who can.
At a minimum we need a central midfielder, and that might be enough, but in reality, to keep up with Barca, we need much more than that.

Barca's front 6

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Villa

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--Pedro

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Messi-

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Iniesta

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Xavi

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Busquets----

We match in terms of DM, maybe even better. We match in terms of striker. Nani is probably as good as Pedro.

Iniesta, Xavi and Messi outstrip anything we have.

Pro. F

adrian280582 wrote: »

People forget we only finished a point behind Chelsea last season.

People also forget that it was quite a low winning points total last season. We had a poor season and normally wouldn't have been so close to the winners.

adrian280582 wrote: »

If we get a world class Midfielder we have every chance of retaining the Premiership.

Agree.

Mitch Connor

linked to Raul Meirelesand Jesus Navas this morning. Not sure about either to be honest.

Not sure on Navas cause I simply think we don't need him. He is a right winger who in all likelyhood (imo) would not settle at the club and not do that well, on top of the fact we already have two top class right wingers (though one will primarily playing on the left). He woud be an expensive player we don't need, while we do need to strengthen elsewhere.

As for Meireles, I simply don't know enough about him. He has done well for Portugal so far in this WC but that is basically it for all I know about him. Don't know what type of midfielder he is.

Both stories coming from caughtoffside though, so don't put much weight behind them.

As for the current discussion regarding our squad, I have spoken about it enough - suffice to say, I don't think we are good enough in central midfield and we will suffer as a result of it unless 1 (absolutely required) or 2 (would be very nice) top class central players are added to the squad.

Mars Bar

I hope that's not true. Navas would be surplus to requirement on the right hand side and Meireles' hair and tattoos really annoy me. :P

Smegball

Mitch Connor wrote: »

linked to Raul Meirelesand Jesus Navas this morning. Not sure about either to be honest.

Not sure on Navas cause I simply think we don't need him. He is a right winger who in all likelyhood (imo) would not settle at the club and not do that well, on top of the fact we already have two top class right wingers (though one will primarily playing on the left). He woud be an expensive player we don't need, while we do need to strengthen elsewhere.

As for Meireles, I simply don't know enough about him. He has done well for Portugal so far in this WC but that is basically it for all I know about him. Don't know what type of midfielder he is.

Both stories coming from caughtoffside though, so don't put much weight behind them.

As for the current discussion regarding our squad, I have spoken about it enough - suffice to say, I don't think we are good enough in central midfield and we will suffer as a result of it unless 1 (absolutely required) or 2 (would be very nice) top class central players are added to the squad.

Is it Jesus Navas who is incredibly homesick? Can't see it if this is true.

Le King

Neither will happen. Unless someone is sold I don't think anybody will be coming in.

Frisbee

Mitch Connor wrote: »

As for Meireles, I simply don't know enough about him. He has done well for Portugal so far in this WC but that is basically it for all I know about him. Don't know what type of midfielder he is.

Both of our gamers against Porto this year I thought he was easily Porto's best player and certainly the best player on the pitch in the first leg. I've a lot of time for Meireles.

xtal191

Everytime i've seen Meireles play he's been quality! Navas will never leave Spain.

eclectichoney

adrian280582 wrote: »

If we get a world class Midfielder we have every chance of regaining the Premiership.

FYP - we don't have it at the moment to be able to retain it!

But I do agree that injuries permitting (i.e. a bitta luck) and a really top class midfielder and we would definitely be there or thereabouts imo. But these two factors are massive in themselves.

TonyD79

Anthony16 wrote: »

If gerrard goes,which seems likely then its all downhill for liverpool.
Yes,united probably will go that way but since we wont win anything decent for a long time to come its nice to be on top of liverpool(something to fall back on)

Just because Liverpool will have a fight on their hands to finish in the top four doesnt mean they wont win 1/2 of the 3 Cup competions their in.
If Rooney hadnt got injured away to B.Munich we would have made final and gone on to win the league going by the world class form he was in. Of course if he suffers in form/injuries in future end of season run ins we will struggle.

Headshot

wheres conno and his ****e about suarez

Nalz

Osu wrote: »

Neither will happen. Unless someone is sold I don't think anybody will be coming in.

I honestly think we should cash in on Vidic if the cash in full was given to Fergie

Cypher_sounds

Trilla wrote: »

I honestly think we should cash in on Vidic if the cash in full was given to Fergie

No we should try keep Vidic at all costs, why would you want to cash in on one of the best central defenders in the world? we should be keeping all of our world class players

Mitch Connor

Osu wrote: »

Neither will happen. Unless someone is sold I don't think anybody will be coming in.

Obviously.

Mr Moon

Did anybody hear anything about our noisy neighbours been given permission to talk to David Silva??

Seriously, if he's available we should be trying everything we can to get him at the club!

Although if they are in for him we wouldn't be able to out-bid them!!

Anthony16

eclectichoney wrote: »

FYP - we don't have it at the moment to be able to retain it!

But I do agree that injuries permitting (i.e. a bitta luck) and a really top class midfielder and we would definitely be there or thereabouts imo. But these two factors are massive in themselves.

And another top top striker.Noone came close to rooneys scoring for us last year.Ronaldo and rooney would always have gotten a lot of goals between them in previous seasons.
The club is a sinking ship.No money,1 world class player,ageing team,injury ravaged defence, and how lon more will fergie go on for?

lordgoat

Anthony16 wrote: »

And another top top striker.Noone came close to rooneys scoring for us last year.Ronaldo and rooney would always have gotten a lot of goals between them in previous seasons.
The club is a sinking ship.No money,1 world class player,ageing team,injury ravaged defence, and how lon more will fergie go on for?

:rolleyes: Must try harder.

fish fingers

Headshot wrote: »

wheres conno and his ****e about suarez

Shush will ya. why would ya be looking for him

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Anthony16 wrote: »

And another top top striker.Noone came close to rooneys scoring for us last year.Ronaldo and rooney would always have gotten a lot of goals between them in previous seasons.
The club is a sinking ship.No money,1 world class player,ageing team,injury ravaged defence, and how lon more will fergie go on for?

"Anthony16"

Hmmmmm, who does that remind me of?

Headshot

conno16 wrote: »

another class strike from forlan
we should consider going back in for him
i'm glad fergie held off on suarez though, hes way out of his depth

conno16 wrote: »

suarez has done nothing yet to suggest he could be a force in the prem for united and at CL level
we dont need another passenger that taps in at the back post when we're two nil up

the owen example is just used to prove a point
owen is a danger in the prem and CL, albeit his flame is dying

until suarez steps up another few levels we better not invest

conno16 wrote: »

yes
suarez does not possess the type of class we need
he'd be pretty ineffective at united

owen > suarez for example

just my opinion
and i'm well clued in to world football, thank you very much

lol

****ing delighted

Smegball

If the funds are there like Gill keeps saying, bid for Ozil and Suarez please

flahavaj

baz2009 wrote: »

"Anthony16"

Hmmmmm, who does that remind me of?

Junior Cert is over. long Summer ahead for the 16 year olds methinks. Even longer Summer for the rest of us.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

flahavaj wrote: »

Junior Cert is over. long Summer ahead for the 16 year olds methinks. Even longer Summer for the rest of us.

Hey! I resent that.:P
Not talking about me anyway 'cause I wasn't doing the Junior.:P

flahavaj

baz2009 wrote: »

Hey! I resent that.:P
Not talking about me anyway 'cause I wasn't doing the Junior.:P

Entrance exams?:pac:

flahavaj

Just watching that yoke on RTE 2 about the 2006 World Cup.

Hargreaves was f*cking brilliant.:(

NTMK

Mr Moon wrote: »

Did anybody hear anything about our noisy neighbours been given permission to talk to David Silva??

Seriously, if he's available we should be trying everything we can to get him at the club!

Although if they are in for him we wouldn't be able to out-bid them!!

Did silva himself not say a few months ago that he wants to join united?
If that was the case i don't see him joining man city but i could see him joining a big team over the summer

conno16

i'd really like to see landon donovan at united
and that right-side midfielder that chile have on their books

#15

conno16 wrote: »

i'd really like to see landon donovan at united
and that right-side midfielder that chile have on their books

Jamie Carragher as well.

grames_bond

what the f*ck is goin on here?! breakout in the asylum?!

Mitch Connor

well United could do with some more right wingers. We don't have enough right wingers. We only have Valencia, Nani and Park. We are sorted for left sided players though. Looking at our left footed wingers we have Giggs and......

conno16

for what purpose?
standing in goals for target practice?

carra is rubbish
lost his pace years ago
we have enough old fogeys in the backline

#15

conno16 wrote: »

carra is rubbish
lost his pace years ago
we have enough old fogeys in the backline

Whoosh.

Adamcp898

I'm hoping all this shyte is only being posted cuz Ye know the thread will be locked and a new one started in a couple of weeks

Mr Moon

Smegball wrote: »

If the funds are there like Gill keeps saying, bid for Ozil and Suarez please

I wouldn't say no to either of these, especially Ozil, he's young great playmaker, left footed also!! Really impressed with him in the world cup so far!

adox

Ozil ticks all the boxes for what United need.
The position we are most lacking in and obviously need. He's also the right age for the current policy for signing younger players.

I've seen enough in 3 games to want him badly at the club.


It's more in hope than anything else though. I'm doubting we will add any significant name this summer though.

The_Kew_Tour

#15 wrote: »

Jamie Carragher as well.

Emile Heskey too sure.

keane2097

Right, I'm gone lads.

Talk to ye in August.

Headshot

keane2097 wrote: »

Right, I'm gone lads.

Talk to ye in August.

lol that bad ?

TheTosh

adrian280582 wrote: »

Emile Heskey too sure.

Dam right I'd even sell Rooney to finance the move:pac:

Jax Teller

Gary dohertys available on a free I think

TheTosh

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

Gary dohertys available on a free I think

I wish, a player of his calibre would never make the step down to join United, better chance of getting Messi

mink_man

lads...whos that lad conno16 who always seems to never be posting when I'm here..

out of his depth...

Jax Teller

TheTosh wrote: »

I wish, a player of his calibre would never make the step down to join United, better chance of getting Messi

Found ths great quote on wiki about him changing squad numbers
"It's all about superstition. Since I came to Norwich, my goal tally's been rubbish really. I used to wear 12 at Luton and Tottenham, and I used to be quite free-scoring during those times."

Headshot

mink_man wrote: »

lads...whos that lad conno16 who always seems to never be posting when I'm here..

your alter ego ?

TheTosh

I'm looking forward to mink man v conno more then England v Germany

lordgoat

TheTosh wrote: »

I'm looking forward to mink man v conno more then England v Germany

This is the only thing making SF interesting these days. That and MM's comeback thread.

mink_man

cypher sounds must be a bit of a pup aswell, tryin to get my thread locked...

mink_man

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

Found ths great quote on wiki about him changing squad numbers
"It's all about superstition. Since I came to Norwich, my goal tally's been rubbish really. I used to wear 12 at Luton and Tottenham, and I used to be quite free-scoring during those times."

.....lol

mink_man

Headshot wrote: »

your alter ego?

a bit like Gar outta Philadelphia Here I Come, where one is better than the other and I think its clear whos better between myself and conman69 or whatever his name is?