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Arsenal FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    This could be a vital win for the team. They showed alot of bottle coming back to win. They need to grab games by the scruff of the neck and start putting themselves on the line. Most important thing now is to get our injured players back fit again especially Clichy, Rosicky and Bendtner.

    Almunia....why? Diaby, someone shoot him. Never going to make the grade at Arsenal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Wow what a result today. Where to begin...

    Firstly, I'm absolutely delighted with Alex Songs progress this season. I have to say at one point I was hoping he'd pack it in and leave but now he's clearly listening to his mentors and working hard to adapt to the holding midfielder role. He's passing medium to long range passing needs a lot of work but as long as he's all over the pitch breaking up play I'm more than happy. Long may it last. Personally I would have given him man of the match.

    Secondly, I'm yet again disappointed with Walcott, Denilson and Diaby. They aren't up to Arsenal stardards and I'd be happy to see them all leave the club provided Wenger brought in suitable replacements. Call me harsh but I'm willing to put my neck on the chopping block and stick by my statement.

    Finally, how refreshing was it to hear that Wenger went to town on them at halftime? Brilliant!

    Well done lads, back in the hunt.

    Agree with everything you said. I don't think Denilson is good enough to be a first teamer and I feel Walcott will never be the player everyone wants him to become. Yeah he's fast but theres not too much else to him. Diaby can play really well, but top performances from him are too rare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Beau x1


    This has been such a great day for me. Great performance in the second half, I knew we weren't out of the game when Arsenal were down at half time. Song is superb. Fabregas needs to find his form again, he plays decent but he's missing the flare we've seen earlier this season.

    The result was fantastic for us, got us back in the race and I also happened to win a €5 bet on Arsenal coming from behind to win at 12/1 odds :eek:

    ..and my day got better; got an Arsenal Zippo lighter for my xmas present from my dad (brother came back visiting him from the UK).

    Beautiful day. All things Arsenal, all things great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Premier League Record:
    Reading               4   4   0   0  11   2   9  12 3.00
    Watford               4   4   0   0   9   3   6  12 3.00
    Wolves                3   3   0   0  10   2   8   9 3.00
    Barnsley              2   2   0   0   7   0   7   6 3.00
    Wigan                 9   8   1   0  21   6  15  25 2.78
    Ipswich              10   8   2   0  23   4  19  26 2.60
    Fulham               17  13   2   2  34   9  25  41 2.41
    Man City             25  19   3   3  48  18  30  60 2.40
    Charlton             16  12   2   2  36  12  24  38 2.38
    West Brom             8   6   1   1  18   8  10  19 2.38
    Derby                14  10   3   1  27  11  16  33 2.36
    Leicester            16  10   5   1  38  13  25  35 2.19
    Birmingham           11   7   3   1  22   6  16  24 2.18
    Crystal Palace        8   5   2   1  16   5  11  17 2.13
    Everton              35  22   8   5  73  28  45  74 2.11
    Nottingham Forest    10   6   3   1  13   7   6  21 2.10
    Portsmouth           13   7   6   0  24   7  17  27 2.08
    Southampton          26  15   7   4  50  24  26  52 2.00
    Oldham                4   2   2   0   4   1   3   8 2.00
    Stoke                 3   2   0   1   7   3   4   6 2.00
    Swindon               2   1   1   0   5   1   4   4 2.00
    Middlesbrough        28  16   7   5  62  26  36  55 1.96
    Coventry             18  10   5   3  25  13  12  35 1.94
    Bolton               20  11   5   4  32  22  10  38 1.90
    West Ham             29  16   7   6  42  19  23  55 1.90
    Sunderland           17   9   5   3  30  12  18  32 1.88
    Blackburn            31  17   7   7  57  28  29  58 1.87
    Villa                34  16  12   6  53  30  23  60 1.76
    Newcastle            32  16   8   8  46  27  19  56 1.75
    Bradford              4   2   1   1   6   3   3   7 1.75
    Chelsea              35  16  11   8  50  42   8  59 1.69
    Leeds                24  12   4   8  43  25  18  40 1.67
    Spurs                35  14  16   5  54  36  18  58 1.66
    Norwich               8   3   4   1  17   9   8  13 1.63
    MK Dons              16   7   4   5  30  16  14  25 1.56
    Sheffield Wednesday  16   7   4   5  21  16   5  25 1.56
    Sheffield United      6   2   3   1   9   4   5   9 1.50
    Hull                  2   1   0   1   4   3   1   3 1.50
    Liverpool            35  10  11  14  38  49 -11  41 1.17
    Man United           35  10  11  14  34  45 -11  41 1.17
    QPR                   8   1   5   2   7   8  -1   8 1.00
    

    This Season v Previous Seasons:
    P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
    2009-2010:  15  10   1   4  40  19  21  31
    2008-2009:  15   8   2   5  27  19   8  26 ( 4th)
    2007-2008:  15  11   4   0  32  12  20  37 ( 3rd)
    2006-2007:  15   7   4   4  25  12  13  25 ( 4th)
    2005-2006:  15   8   2   5  22  13   9  26 ( 4th)
    2004-2005:  15   9   4   2  39  20  19  31 ( 2nd)
    2003-2004:  15  10   5   0  29  11  18  35 ( 1st)
    2002-2003:  15  10   2   3  33  16  17  32 ( 2nd)
    2001-2002:  15   8   5   2  33  17  16  29 ( 1st)
    2000-2001:  15   8   4   3  23  13  10  28 ( 2nd)
    1999-2000:  15   9   2   4  26  15  11  29 ( 2nd)
    1998-1999:  15   6   7   2  15   7   8  25 ( 2nd)
    1997-1998:  15   7   6   2  30  17  13  27 ( 1st)
    1996-1997:  15   9   4   2  29  13  16  31 ( 3rd)
    1995-1996:  15   8   4   3  21  10  11  28 ( 5th)
    1994-1995:  15   5   4   6  18  16   2  19 (12th)
    1993-1994:  15   7   5   3  15   8   7  26 ( 4th)
    1992-1993:  15   9   2   4  22  13   9  29 (10th)
    

    Rolling Season:
    P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
    2009-2010:  38  22  11   5  81  37  44  77
    

    Current Run:
    P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
    2009-2010:   2   2   0   0   4   1   3   6
    

    Can't believe we came from behind in Anfield and won. Biggest 3 points we've gotten so far...unfortunately!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,174 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    jasonorr wrote: »
    2007-2008: 15 11 4 0 32 12 20 37 ( 3rd)

    Jaysus, forgot just how good the first half of that season was. Can't believe how it turned out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Jaysus, forgot just how good the first half of that season was. Can't believe how it turned out.

    Yeah, I know...was massively disappointing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Beau x1


    Man, it's so easy to forget how great we have really been in this season so far when we've played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,480 ✭✭✭✭cson


    That video made me sad that we don't have RVP for the rest of the season more or less. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Secondly, I'm yet again disappointed with Walcott, Denilson and Diaby. They aren't up to Arsenal stardards and I'd be happy to see them all leave the club provided Wenger brought in suitable replacements. Call me harsh but I'm willing to put my neck on the chopping block and stick by my statement.

    I think people are forgetting how young Denilson (21) and Walcott (20) are. If they were at any other club they'd still be considered fantastic prospects. They have a lot of work to do, but it's too early to write them off yet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    What club would consider Denilson a fantastic prospect?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    What club would consider Denilson a fantastic prospect?

    I heard Cherry Orchard are looking for a CM :D.
    In all fairness though he is still young and I think if he bucks up he can really make it at Arsenal. Think about all the interceptions/passes he completes, wheres that thread gone about the perfect midfielder? Loads of stats in there about Denilson which suprised a lot of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭dazzday


    Walcott lacks a footballing brain. Lightning fast but thats about it.

    Now young Ramsey on the otherhand...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    I think people are forgetting how young Denilson (21) and Walcott (20) are. If they were at any other club they'd still be considered fantastic prospects. They have a lot of work to do, but it's too early to write them off yet.

    I'd agree on Denilson. CMF/DMF is a position that requires a lot of experience and a fair bit of bulk. I'm always amazed that at their age, Fabregas and Song do as well as they do because players like these tend to peak later in their careers. Look across the premiership for all the 20/21 year old midfielders and see if any compare to the two boys.

    Wingers however are much better when they're young. I simply don't think Walcott has a good footballing brain. Get his crossing right and he'll turn into another Lennon but all the Arsenal fans and the English press that believe some day he'll be the master of pace and posession that Henry was are simply deluding themselves.

    If we had a big centre forward and teams actually got forward in numbers against us, Walcott would be an awesome weapon (think back to CL against Liverpool). However with pretty much every team that plays us basically parking the bus and Arshavin up top for the moment, Walcott's never going to make an impact.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Walcott will get better when the team gets better. At the moment he's a Ljungberg without a Bergkamp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭tred


    Walcott will get better when the team gets better. At the moment he's a Ljungberg without a Bergkamp.

    Agreed. But we wont compete at the top level until we bring in a world class goal keeper. I have being always praising almunia, but confidence is low again. He has good distribution and decent shot stopper but at times his decesion making is poor. And there are times when u want him to come off the line he doesnt, and when he does, were toast.

    Song has always worked hard and his problems last season and sometiems before was stray passes...he seems to have worked hard on that. Brother is a mad charlton fan and he said that when they had song on loan he was the best player on the pitch each match..fans loved him....I think wenger has found his defensive midfielder...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭liamygunner29


    lads I'm sorry but there comes a time we gotta stop looking at Walcott as going to improve we have him 3 years ... A few sparks of potential but ulitimetally no fire. Been young is not an excuse any more in a club without a trophy for 5 years. Thats the excuse for youth team,carling cup and reserve players for not first team players.

    His been at a world cup, played in finals, important internationals, champions league games and I think its time to face the music and sell him while we get a good deal whiie he still has "potential". Look at what ronaldo,rooney and even cesc were doing at 20. I hope I'm wrong.

    Also I would like to say bout us at the minute is that the problem is in a few areas number 1: looking like a team of dwarfs. 2: we have all these exciting players (including cbs and gk) who at any time can produce a moment of brilliance (nasri, arsha, walcott, nasri, vermalean) all over the team. These players tend to go missing for most of the match dough and you can't sustain consistencey with a team of players like that. It's a stable, strong and consistent player we need.

    Almunia has to go. I can't hold any title or any aspirations with a keeper I don't trust when the ball comes in the box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    lads I'm sorry but there comes a time we gotta stop looking at Walcott as going to improve we have him 3 years ... A few sparks of potential but ulitimetally no fire. Been young is not an excuse any more in a club without a trophy for 5 years. Thats what the youth team and carling cup are for not first time players.

    His been at a world cup, played in finals, important internationals, champions league games and I think its time to face the music and sell him while we get a good deal whiie he still has "potential". Look at what ronaldo,rooney and even cesc were doing at 20. I hope I'm worng.

    Also I would like to say bout us at the minute is that the problem is in a few areas number 1: looking like a team of dwarfs. 2: we have all these exciting players (including cbs and gk) who at any time can produce a moment of brilliance (nasri, arsha, walcott, nasri, vermalean) all over the team. These players tend to go missing for most of the match dough and you can't sustain consistencey with a team of players like that. It's a stable, strong and consistent player we need.

    Almunia has to go. I can't hold any title or any aspirations with a keeper I don't trust when the ball comes in the box

    I don't really agree with what you've said about Walcott, I think he does deserve more time as any time he seems to be on the cusp of realising his potential, his progress is hampered by another injury! Hope we replace Almunia soon though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,480 ✭✭✭✭cson


    tred wrote: »
    Agreed. But we wont compete at the top level until we bring in a world class goal keeper. I have being always praising almunia, but confidence is low again. He has good distribution and decent shot stopper but at times his decesion making is poor. And there are times when u want him to come off the line he doesnt, and when he does, were toast

    His distribution is poor. Not just based on yesterdays shocking display but on the whole his distribution is bad for a GK playing for one of the top sides in the Premier League.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Before we go jumping all over Walcott, he really needs time to get back to full fitness; he's only just back from a long time out. He needs a while to sharpen up before we can really judge his potential.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    lads I'm sorry but there comes a time we gotta stop looking at Walcott as going to improve we have him 3 years ...
    We have Jack Wilshere 8 years. I'm glad we didn't jettison him when he didn't break into the first team aged 12.
    A few sparks of potential but ulitimetally no fire. Been young is not an excuse any more in a club without a trophy for 5 years. Thats the excuse for youth team,carling cup and reserve players for not first team players
    Whether the team has won titles is completely irrelevant to how we should rate Walcott.
    His been at a world cup, played in finals, important internationals, champions league games and I think its time to face the music and sell him while we get a good deal whiie he still has "potential". Look at what ronaldo,rooney and even cesc were doing at 20. I hope I'm wrong.
    If we sold every player who was doing what those three were doing at 20 we'd only have one player.
    2: we have all these exciting players (including cbs and gk) who at any time can produce a moment of brilliance (nasri, arsha, walcott, nasri, vermalean) all over the team. These players tend to go missing for most of the match dough and you can't sustain consistencey with a team of players like that. It's a stable, strong and consistent player we need.
    Nasri, so inconsistent you mentioned him twice! Personally, I would have thought players like Vermaelen and Arshavin are exactly what we need, while Walcott and Nasri are the kinds of players you need on the fringes of the team.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    ...when I suggested that Robbie Keane could be shipped out of Spurs in January and that we need a Van Persie replacement and that its kind of convenient.

    What does anyone else think?

    Sol made the trip across North London a few year ago...

    Maybe I am mad, but I think Robbie would do really well for us and Id sooner take him over this Chamkah guy or any other 4/10 striker we've been linked with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    FearDark wrote: »
    ...when I suggested that Robbie Keane could be shipped out of Spurs in January and that we need a Van Persie replacement and that its kind of convenient.

    What does anyone else think?

    Sol made the trip across North London a few year ago...

    Maybe I am mad, but I think Robbie would do really well for us and Id sooner take him over this Chamkah guy or any other 4/10 striker we've been linked with.

    Not what we need to be honest and if we are going to sign someone, I feel he would have to be much younger and hopefully better than Keane!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Walcott will get better when the team gets better. At the moment he's a Ljungberg without a Bergkamp.


    Harsh on Freddie, he was an excellent winger at the time,one of the best in the Premiership at the time, didn't get the credit he deserved imo


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    FearDark wrote: »
    ...when I suggested that Robbie Keane could be shipped out of Spurs in January and that we need a Van Persie replacement and that its kind of convenient.

    What does anyone else think?

    Sol made the trip across North London a few year ago...

    Maybe I am mad, but I think Robbie would do really well for us and Id sooner take him over this Chamkah guy or any other 4/10 striker we've been linked with.

    He'd be eligible for champions league too..


    How much are spuds gonna look for him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,174 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Anything over about £1m is too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭liamygunner29


    I'm just getting sick of saying such and such a player has potential..Problem is potential won't win you a title. Talent does. How long have we been watching the pundits saying in a couple of years this team will come good?

    Fair enough I'm taking on board what the Walcott fans are saying and the injury thing is a fair point. I always liked him. I'm just getting a little worried.

    How is Arsha not inconsistent he goes the whole game missing he is nowhere to be seeein and then blasts screamers into the top corner..I'm not saying thats a bad thing just that needs to be balanced with a reliable player...thats not there with nasri and walcott as well and to an extent cesc is the same in that regard. I believe Rosicky is good at getting a grasp and having a 90 minute impact on a game but sure whats left to say bout him now. Eduardo and Bendtner aren't realistically going to solve the problem. Vela is again in and out of games. Every now and again he might score a delightful chip or sumting but again we have enough players like that.

    I think we need a consistent,reliable and strong striker and you're saying Robbie Keane. Ok take us out of the eqation been Irish and not from London we don't understand the rivalary as much but whatever bout Sol, Robbie Keane will not cross no way his said to much bout not liking Arsenal and his a icon there a captain.

    Most importantly his the most inconsistent,small, uproven at the top level, He wouldn't be liked by the fans, He forms partnerships best with out and out strikers and his not a good enuf passer of the ball for us.

    Would you ever seen Wenger spend crazy money on a 29 year old home nations player who couldn't cut it at Liverpool? Robbie Keanes career is going backwards towards the Spl or Sunderland. Not a top 4 team with serious title ambtions. I would prefer not to see Robbie Keane and Arsenal in the same sentence again unless its about the consaliton goal he scored for them that couldn't stop us winning the title "which he said he would love to do". FFS remember his stupid celebrating after the carling cup semi?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    I think Eduadro is finished. If he cant get a game with Van Persie and Bentdner out and with Vela too young to trust at the moment then I cant see any future with him at Arsenal.

    I think the key to alot of this is Rosicky. He makes Cesc and Nasri perform better hence we are better going forward overall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    What club would consider Denilson a fantastic prospect?

    Pretty much every other team in the Premiership bar Chelsea would have him in their squads, and plenty of Champions League continental sides to boot. Juve spent something like €20m on a very similar layer in Melo. Heck, United still consider Gibson a prospect and he's done much much less than the younger Denilson so far in his career. Liverpool again have a very similar player in Leiva (controversial I know, but Rafa at least seems to rate him).

    Denilson's a very gifted player technically. Despite his slight stature he's not afraid of a tackle. His passing may not be on the level of Cesc but he's not afraid to try out the odd through ball now and again. What he lacks is aggression and positioning. He may never control matches they way Cesc or Vieira does, but he can become a very good sidekick for both down line, and he's already a damn good squad player to have.

    Remember folks, Flamini's breakthrough season came when he was 23 years old, he never really looked much before that Champions League run. Fletcher's only beginning to look the part at United in the last two years (again 23-24ish). Denilson may be running out of time to make his mark, but it's still a couple of seasons too early to make judgements yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    I'm just getting sick of saying such and such a player has potential..Problem is potential won't win you a title. Talent does. How long have we been watching the pundits saying in a couple of years this team will come good?

    Fair enough I'm taking on board what the Walcott fans are saying and the injury thing is a fair point. I always liked him. I'm just getting a little worried.

    How is Arsha not inconsistent he goes the whole game missing he is nowhere to be seeein and then blasts screamers into the top corner..I'm not saying thats a bad thing just that needs to be balanced with a reliable player...thats not there with nasri and walcott as well and to an extent cesc is the same in that regard. I believe Rosicky is good at getting a grasp and having a 90 minute impact on a game but sure whats left to say bout him now. Eduardo and Bendtner aren't realistically going to solve the problem. Vela is again in and out of games. Every now and again he might score a delightful chip or sumting but again we have enough players like that.

    I think we need a consistent,reliable and strong striker and you're saying Robbie Keane. Ok take us out of the eqation been Irish and not from London we don't understand the rivalary as much but whatever bout Sol, Robbie Keane will not cross no way his said to much bout not liking Arsenal and his a icon there a captain.

    Most importantly his the most inconsistent,small, uproven at the top level, He wouldn't be liked by the fans, He forms partnerships best with out and out strikers and his not a good enuf passer of the ball for us.

    Would you ever seen Wenger spend crazy money on a 29 year old home nations player who couldn't cut it at Liverpool? Robbie Keanes career is going backwards towards the Spl or Sunderland. Not a top 4 team with serious title ambtions. I would prefer not to see Robbie Keane and Arsenal in the same sentence again unless its about the consaliton goal he scored for them that couldn't stop us winning the title "which he said he would love to do". FFS remember his stupid celebrating after the carling cup semi?

    What does this mean Liamy? I can't follow nearly all of it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    I would keep Denilson. Very good squad player and chips in with the goals. Kinda the player who is good at everything while not brilliant at nothing. He needs more time. However he should not be in the starting XI.

    Ill will pay for Diabys bus fare though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    jank wrote: »
    I would keep Denilson. Very good squad player and chips in with the goals. Kinda the player who is good at everything while not brilliant at nothing. He needs more time. However he should not be in the starting XI.

    Ill will pay for Diabys bus fare though.

    Diaby get slated on here but, I'm always impressed when I see him playing through the middle, his favourite position!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    I agree.I think Diaby is a fine player who will only get better...People were making those "I'll pay the plane fare" comments about Song last season....would anyone send him packing now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭liamygunner29


    What does this mean Liamy? I can't follow nearly all of it.

    To summarize we need more consistent reliable players.
    Robbie Keane is not good enough to play for Arsenal.

    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    To summarize we need more consistent reliable players.
    Robbie Keane is not good enough to play for Arsenal.

    That is all.

    You can sing that buddy...has he been linked to Arsenal?I've not heard anything about that but I wouldn't have thought he was our sort....Spud or not!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭liamygunner29


    You can sing that buddy...has he been linked to Arsenal?I've not heard anything about that but I wouldn't have thought he was our sort....Spud or not!!

    No but if you check the previous page a couple of people express a desire for him.

    The previous page will also help explain my semi-rant above :o ...should of used quotes apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I was wondering were Szczesny went. He's at Brentford:
    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/szczesny-i-m-loving-the-physical-battle


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    I agree.I think Diaby is a fine player who will only get better...People were making those "I'll pay the plane fare" comments about Song last season....would anyone send him packing now?

    Not me anyway. Diaby is way to inconsistent, he has been at the club 4 years and nobody still knows what he does well or his best position. If you play him in the middle then where does that leave Cesc or Arshavin two much better players.
    Another David Bently I think :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,570 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    jank wrote: »
    Not me anyway. Diaby is way to inconsistent, he has been at the club 4 years and nobody still knows what he does well or his best position. If you play him in the middle then where does that leave Cesc or Arshavin two much better players.
    Another David Bently I think :/

    His best position is CM, definitely.
    But he gets thrown out on the wing far too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,141 ✭✭✭G1032


    cson wrote: »
    His distribution is poor. Not just based on yesterdays shocking display but on the whole his distribution is bad for a GK playing for one of the top sides in the Premier League.

    +1. His distribution is appalling. Against Liverpool it was worse than ever. He also has no command of his area and the defenders have no trust in him at all. I just cannot fathom what Wenger sees in him. He contributes nothing whatsoever to the team and never wins us any points. Only god knows how many we would have shipped against Fulham if he was in goal. How many saves did Mannone make that day... 8 or 9?? Thats more than Almunia would make in a month. Any chance he'll be dropped for Burnley game. Worth giving Mannone another shot short term??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    Would Adriano be worth a punt in jan?
    It's a chance but he shouldn't cost that much (contract is up in May) and if he found some form (a big if i know) he would be perfect for what Arsenal need.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Couple of massive "if's" there mate. Really not a Wenger type player though, could never see him going for him. If we get anyone in JAn it will be a loan signing I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Evil_Clown wrote: »
    Would Adriano be worth a punt in jan?
    It's a chance but he shouldn't cost that much (contract is up in May) and if he found some form (a big if i know) he would be perfect for what Arsenal need.

    He has found form in Brazil and I would say would be back in the thoughts of a few clubs, defo worth a look.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLol-dPABiw&feature=related


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Galvasean wrote: »
    I was wondering were Szczesny went. He's at Brentford:
    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/szczesny-i-m-loving-the-physical-battle
    ... and doing extremely well by all accounts. Reckon he'll be moving up the pecking order at Arsenal soon enough.

    I don't think Wenger rates Almunia anymore. Dropping him for Mannone showed just that. He just doesn't have many alternatives at the moment. Having said that I think he'll probably play Fabianski against Burnley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Joeyjoejoe43


    Ush1 wrote: »
    He has found form in Brazil and I would say would be back in the thoughts of a few clubs, defo worth a look.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLol-dPABiw&feature=related

    Some shocking goalkeeping for a lot of them goals to be honest.. Dunno if he's the man for us, reminds me too much of the wardrobe Baptista..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Some shocking goalkeeping for a lot of them goals to be honest.. Dunno if he's the man for us, reminds me too much of the wardrobe Baptista..

    Depends how much he would cost and his wages really. I think Wenger could make him flourish and he would fit the bill for what Arsenal need but in saying that he wouldn't be a "Wenger" signing really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    No to Adriano.

    Lots of ability but a lazy centre forward isn't what we need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Kirnsy


    yeah remember what happend to the last muscular, shaved headed brazilian striker we signed......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    Kirnsy wrote: »
    yeah remember what happend to the last muscular, shaved headed brazilian striker we signed......

    Ah Baptista, I was convinced he'd be our savior, 4 goals against Liverpool in October that year, then nothing else.... 4 goals against Liverpool tho, i still love him :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    If I was Wenger I'd try bring in Carlton Cole. He seems to have turned a corner and is heading for his prime years. He's also strong with great skill and finishing. Having experience in the premier league and being available to play in Europe are also great to have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Most importantly his the most inconsistent,small, uproven at the top level, He wouldn't be liked by the fans, He forms partnerships best with out and out strikers and his not a good enuf passer of the ball for us.

    Would you ever seen Wenger spend crazy money on a 29 year old home nations player who couldn't cut it at Liverpool?

    Seriously you are letting your disdain for the Spuds cloud your judgement here, how can you state that someone who is in the top ten of all-time premier league goalscorers is inconsistent and unproven??

    As for the comments about Liverpool, very hard to cut it on the banch with a manager who quite clearly didnt want you signed and had no intention of playing you.

    Now having said all that I do agree with your over-riding sentiment that Keane is not what Arsenal need and is definitely not someone that Wenger would sign.


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