Trek 1.7 or Focus Cayo

happy_73

OK, which one and why?

Trek 1.7 is €1300 and the Focus Cayo is about €1200.

http://www.trekbikes.com/uk/en/bikes/road/1_series/17e/

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Focus_Cayo_105_2009/5360037591/

According to my LBS the Trek 2010 range is going to be available in about a month. My worry is that the 2010 1.7 could be of a lower spec than the 2009 (full 105 groupset). LBS has a 1.7 in stock

Any advice would be much appreciated.

S

penexpers

Fairly sure the 1.7 you linked to is the 2010 model.

blorg

Focus Cayo no question.

tomc

Love my Focus.....nuff said.:D

Jumpy

penexpers wrote: »

Fairly sure the 1.7 you linked to is the 2010 model.

I have the 2009 and there is no difference to that picture or specs. That photo is 2009 I think unless the 2010 is going to be the same.

DJsail

They're both very similiar so with that in mind get the Focus as its one sweet looking ride and every man, woman and child seems to have a Trek so you'll be able to find yours far easier at a meet!

irishmotorist

Focus Cayo. It has a carbon frame versus the Trek's aluminium frame (meaning more in terms of comfort) and costs about €100 less. Got one and it's bleedin deadly!

walshy123

1.7 is to be discontinued and replaced with 2.3 i think

https://www.sigmasport.co.uk/app/secure/Bike.aspx?SubCatId=411&BID=11&View=N

jinka

If you want a Focus buy a car
If you want a bike buy the Trek..A sexier looking bike for a start

I wonder does that sigma crowd charge carriage on the bikes?.

blue chuzzle

jinka wrote: »

If you want a Focus buy a car
If you want a bike buy the Trek..A sexier looking bike for a start

your getting confused, he never said the thing he was looking to get was a focus...

i too am very pleased with my focus, your paying extra for a lower spec bike if you get the trek.

the trek equivalent of the focus (in terms of specification) is the madone 4.5

not worth the extra imo

Lumen

Being incredibly picky, the only things wrong with the Focus that I can think of are:

1. Rattly cables, probably the internal routing, possibly solved with grommets or sealant if I could be bothered.

2. A bit heavy, compared to something lighter. :pac:

3. The "Focus bikes, made in Germany" advertising, which is somewhat misleading, but not unusually in the industry, and obviously nothing to do with the actual bike.

Otherwise it's very difficult to fault.

I can think of a few things worth criticising about the Trek, but it's not fair to pick on the underdog.

happy_73

Hiya,

According to LBS who was talking to Trek rep the Trek 1.7 is not included in the 2010 range as it’s discontinued. Reps have no idea what’s taking its place right now. Also Trek and Giant are releasing the 2010 range in the next couple of weeks.
For what it’s worth – label on the trek was “made in Taiwan” as far as I can remember

Do like the look of the Trek...

Does the carbon frame make that much of a difference?

penexpers

happy_73 wrote: »

Does the carbon frame make that much of a difference?

In a word : yes. It will absorb the road buzz better and make for a more comfortable ride. I'm used to steel bikes and I had a test ride on the Madone 4.5 and I couldn't believe the difference in how much smoother the ride was.

irishmotorist

Lumen wrote: »

1. Rattly cables, probably the internal routing, possibly solved with grommets or sealant if I could be bothered.

No rattles on my one so it's either you were unlucky, I was lucky or it's something that they changed with the 2009 model...

Blowfish

Seems Planet X have updated their site. Their SL pro carbon is cheaper than it was, but isn't full ultegra any more. If you include the 'build it for me' and shipping, it works out at €1350. It's another option to keep in mind.

littleknown

happy, was in the exact same position as yourself some months back and was looking at the trek 1.5 and 1.7 bikes , in the end decided to go for the focus as the reviews * and opinion here were all in favour, in the end wiggle wouldnt deliver to where i live so i ended up buying an orbea carbon.

you should go for the focus though, carbon is amazing compared to the standard frames of the treks . to be honest though lookswise i prefer the trek1.5 over all of em, but that just looks,, , i think the treks are great looking.

Cerdito

I just got a Trek 1.7 in the cycle to work scheme and I love everything about it. The ride, the speed, the look...got it for €1250 with a bit of haggling but will only have to pay €750 with tax relief.

I instantly shaved 25 minutes off the 25km from my house to work against what it took on my mountain bike (50min v. 1h15m). This is even before I try it with clipless pedals, no backpack etc.

I have no idea what the Focus is like but the Trek is a sweet bike. Planning to do the Wicklow 200 on it next year - first ever road bike I've owned so need to build up to it!

happy_73

Doing the cycle to work scheme so the Planet X is out

I like the fact I can ride the trek before I buy. Lot to be said about the carbon frame if it's going to take some of the fuzz out of the road. At the moment riding Carrera Virtuoso so anything is going to be a major step up. Anyone with a Cayo in Cork that I could take a look at? If not could someone post a few pics of their cayo?

ta
S

macadam

penexpers wrote: »

Fairly sure the 1.7 you linked to is the 2010 model.

Thats the 2009 model my friend bought one in Newry €850, big saving.

ednwireland

happy_73 wrote: »

Doing the cycle to work scheme so the Planet X is out

I like the fact I can ride the trek before I buy. Lot to be said about the carbon frame if it's going to take some of the fuzz out of the road. At the moment riding Carrera Virtuoso so anything is going to be a major step up. Anyone with a Cayo in Cork that I could take a look at? If not could someone post a few pics of their cayo?

ta
S

irishmotorist posted pics of his here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=138864&page=65
he did the ROK on his and seemed happy, i'm biased though planning on ordering mine in the next day or so

blorg

@happy_73- I am a big Trek fan, they make great bikes. I have owned a total of six of them, more than any other make.

I have direct comparison of the Trek aluminium road frames and the Trek carbon frames having owned both. The Trek carbon is _incredibly_ more comfortable than the Trek aluminium which is very direct and stiff, great for starting racing, but a bit harsh over long distances. The Trek carbon is the most comfortable I have ever ridden.

After I crashed my carbon Trek 5000 (modern equivalent Madone 4.x) I replaced with a Focus Cayo. I did this because a Madone was just crazy expensive. The Cayo was probably slightly less shock absorbent than the Trek 5000 but it felt stiffer and faster. The Cayo was still very comfortable, far more so than a Trek aluminium frame.

Bottom line is the Focus Cayo is simply not comparable to a Trek 1.7. The Focus is in another league. It will be both more comfortable and lighter.

irishmotorist

happy_73 wrote: »

Doing the cycle to work scheme so the Planet X is out

Are you sure it's out? I just want to make sure that you're not mistaken on the rules of the scheme. If you can buy it anywhere (shop, online etc.) then it's valid under c2w. If your place of work has limited you to specific shops, then that's a different story. If that is the ase though, check with them as they might allow exceptions (like my place did).

happy_73

Can only purchase from the following
http://www.opw.ie/en/media/Bicycle%20Suppliers.pdf
if it's not on the list, not going to happen!

@ednwireland, thanks for the link to the pics - bike look sweet!

The cayo is looking better and better

happy_73

Hi lads,

Wiggle just dropped the price of the Cayo to €1050 so just ordered it... feck waiting around for the Bike2Work scheme to start in UCC!

thanks for the advice and will put up pics when I get it!

S