Any Bouncers on Boards.ie?

Bill-e

I was a bouncer for a year in cork, It was one of the most enlightening jobs I've ever had!
It was in a pretty nice club so I didn't have to deal with much scumbags. Half the time I refused people it was due to orders coming in over the radio from my manager or the guy on the security camera. They didn't pay me to ask why.
Sometimes we were told to only let people with blue/brown/cream/neutral coloured clothing. As it looked better from the outside... The safest reason to give is that "You've seem to have had too much tonight." Some sort of legal loop hole means that even if the guy seems 100% sober, it was still a solid reason due to it not being quantitative. I rarely said "Not tonight", as I remember how annoying that was whenever I heard the same words.
Also, I'd never grab a cheap feel off one of the customers, if anything they would be much more likely to do that to me! drunk irish wimmin are frightening sometimes! Neither would any of the lads I worked with. They were sound out guys and well educated for the most part. :eek:

genericguy

i was a bouncer when i was doing my degree, and while i hoinoestly wouldnt treat anyone badly myself, i did work in one particular clulb in dublin where the boss would tell us "no men with brown shoes tonight lads...no women with short black hair...no men with long hair..." etc, purely for the purpose of "making the night more interesting. Personally I couldn't give a toss, because I don't frequent clubs. I do sympathise with those of you who have had bad experiences though, because I know exactly the kind of prick you find yourselves up against from time to time. best advice i can give is don't even try debate with them, not worth it.

stovelid

Bexley Faint Taxi wrote: »

One day I was wearing tracksuit bottoms walking through temple bar. They were a baggy pair, not tucked into my socks or anything but em, I decided to walk into the Quays bar and restaurant for a club sandwich, and the restaurant is located in another door. So this was roughly 3pm in the day. when I approached the door, a bouncer from inside the pub came out the other door fairly hastily and asked me was I alright. I said I was, and walked up the stairs.

I thought to myself, what a wanker.

I dont know why I posted this, but it seems bouncers suspect that anyone not dressed in their sunday best at 3pm in the day is a knacker. Paranoid *****

And of course, you'd be delighted if the door staff in your favourite indie/professional-type bar started letting anybody with a tracksuit in.

It's called a dress code and they enforce it. They're not out to get you.

The more I read these threads I wonder what percentage of you are actually friendly to door staff, catch their eye as you enter or leave the place and approach the door with at least the impression that it's not a given that you'll get in.

The majority of posts here sound like teenagers griping about the cheek of those trained monkeys daring to refuse them entry to one of hundreds of places that they can to.

And you'd all be the first to be on here crying if some gorilla battered your boyfriend/mate in the bar and there were no door staff to come and help you.

davyjose

stovelid wrote: »

And you'd all be the first to be on here crying if some gorilla battered your boyfriend/mate in the bar and there were no door staff to come and help you.

Actually, my first complaint would probably be with Dublin Zoo.

Captain Darling

stovelid wrote: »

And of course, you'd be delighted if the door staff in your favourite indie/professional-type bar started letting anybody with a tracksuit in.

It's called a dress code and they enforce it. They're not out to get you.

The more I read these threads I wonder what percentage of you are actually friendly to door staff, catch their eye as you enter or leave the place and approach the door with at least the impression that it's not a given that you'll get in.

The majority of posts here sound like teenagers griping about the cheek of those trained monkeys daring to refuse them entry to one of hundreds of places that they can to.

And you'd all be the first to be on here crying if some gorilla battered your boyfriend/mate in the bar and there were no door staff to come and help you.

I hate the mentality that all bouncers are ****, i've a friend who was convinced that all bouncers were out to get him. The fact that he acted the total bollox after a few pints didnt come into it.

If you go up to a bouncer expecting a row, you're probably going to get one.

Not worth the stress IMO.

stovelid

davyjose wrote: »

Actually, my first complaint would probably be with Dublin Zoo.

LD 50

LittleNipper wrote: »

Its just common sense here, i dont mean to across the way you speak of but this thread has been done over and over again and im quite tired of it.

Arguing about a refusal only justify's why you are refused.

If any time I've been refused entry I dont argue with the bouncers as to the why. They get enough grief as it is. And argueing over doesn't get anywhere. And hopefully the next time I'm there, the bouncer remembers that I wasn't a prick and lets me in. And I'm glad to hear from a bouncer that I was right.
I've only ever queried a bouncers decision once, and that was after being refused entry about 5 times in a row on different weeks. I simply asked why, he explained that I had been hollering abuse at them after being removed(which was my own fault). I told he had me mistaken, and that I had gone home after being removed, and I said that I had known that had I shouted abuse at them I'd never get in again, and that I could go home a bit black and blue. So after explaining myself, he let me in. But I'm sure they were keeping an eye me anyways.

star.chaser

mink_man wrote: »

I've applied for my bouncer thingy in fas! you only have to be 16 to be a bouncer ya know!

what IQ of 16?

Mink_Man

Mink_Man wrote:

I've applied for my bouncer thingy in fas! you only have to be 16 to be a bouncer ya know!

You have to be 18, You have to be 16 to do the course.

Bill-e

16 would be far to young to be bouncing. You do actually need a degree of maturity to do the job well.

Red Sleeping Beauty

LittleNipper wrote: »

Its a typical i hate bouncers thread, was one last week too.
You dont get in? fine, act your age and file a complaint if you feel you are hard done by. Sick to death of these threads, all the OP's seem to think that all bouncers go to the college of complete bastards. Why dont you post when you do get in somewhere and have a pleasant time. Even had a lad pm me before about how to get in to a club. Its you that comes bad out of this when you say thing like " I was going to kick him up and down the street". Act your bloody age and cop on.

If you don't like it then don't read it.

Raze_them_all

star.chaser wrote: »

what IQ of 16?

Did you use your mensa level IQ to think of that quip? Maybe it's just me and my IQ of 16 but I fail to see the funny part of that quip, in fact it brings me back to my original post on this thread, oh my how witty and intelligent you are to think of that, I bet nobody even had to help you think of it.

Happynappy

A few years ago I tried to get refused from a club in temple bar, i was out with the girlfriend and she wanted to meet up with her friends that were up for the match, I didn't want to tag along plus I was fairly skint at the time so wanted to go to a free bar instead, so my plan was to go to the door with a bit of attitude, enough to get refused, but not enough to ]let her know what I was up to

Bouncer - have you had much to drink?
Me - I'd had a few
Bouncer - where you here before?
Me - (bluntly) No
Bouncer - where are you from?
Me - Coolock , why?
Bouncer - (pausing) OK go on
Me - (aah crap)

dlofnep

TheZohan wrote: »

I haven't been stopped getting into a club/bar in years.

1. Don't act the pr!ck in the queue to get in.
2. Don't be hammered
3. If there's a gang of girls and guys try and couple up even if you're not couples
4. Adhere to the dresscode.
5. Say hello to the door staff and don't act like a dick.
6. Enjoy yourself inside, don't ruin anyone elses enjoyment.
7. Say thank you when you're leaving, they're the ones that made sure no scum got in to ruin your night and made sure that things ran smoothly inside.

That's nonsense, you can be courteous, be dressed appropriately, not act the prick and they can still judge you in a split second before you even say hello and decide on whether you're getting in or not.

Some of the bouncers here are absolutely spot on, dead genuine nice people - but others, are roided out of their brains and get insane roid rage and take it out on punters.

If a bouncer doesn't like you, you're not getting in.

In saying that, I have'nt been stopped in a long time - but being stopped is embarrassing, and the bouncers feed off it.

SV

Just a little suggestion..

If a bouncer says you're not getting in then don't argue the case..you'll only end up looking like a muppet. Just walk away.

User45701

ive been refused sober one or twice and just accepted it, one time i was going to meet mates for rugby game and i argued it - i was working the sat morning and rushed into town to make the game....

was refused - i missed the 1st 1/2 standing outside asking the bouncer to explain why i was refused who at first said your too drunk then later switched to "not today mate"

so i asked for the manager which i didnt get - about 40 mins of me standing there another bouncer came out and i pleaded my case with him who said go in no problem (i didnt get an apology either)

some bouncers are just assholes but i know some sound ones as well who would still recongise me and say hi even though i havent been in said pub for months or even a year

bret69

My friend and I were refused from Capitol a few weeks ago for no apparent reason, despite being REGULARS!

Just got the 'not tonight' line! Couldn't believe it, we were dressed well and sober!!!!

Have heard it from a lot of people since then, they must have changed their door policy recently.

Royale with Cheese

The majority of bouncers I've come across in my time have been decent enough... only once have I come across the 'not tonight lads' line, it's fúcking annoying though. Stood there trying to get a reason out of him for 5 minutes, the guy was just full of shíte. Was just the three of us, well dressed and sober, he wouldn't even make up a reason for not letting us in.

When I was 18 my night out basically involved getting as drunk as possible and then wandering around, I went through a phase of being a bit of a prick... and one night in Q bar I just starting slapping all my friends thinking it was hilarious (I actually gave up drinking for about 6 months after this). Bouncer decided he'd had enough of me but instead of throwing me out he just informed me I'd had enough and I needed to go home but would be welcome back next week. He followed me around for about 2 minutes until I found my friend who'd been put in charge of getting me home. Sound bouncer.

arybvtcw0eolkf

the_syco wrote: »

When I worked in a club, I saw few scumbags let in, until the Hitching Post was closed. Then they streamed in :mad: Was fun to see 3 to 8 bouncers stream through the crowd when there was trouble outside, with the manager behind them with the video camera.

How is Mr.Hannigan these days?...(I'm guessing still a prick).

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arybvtcw0eolkf

TheZohan wrote: »

I haven't been stopped getting into a club/bar in years.

1. Don't act the pr!ck in the queue to get in.
2. Don't be hammered
3. If there's a gang of girls and guys try and couple up even if you're not couples
4. Adhere to the dresscode.
5. Say hello to the door staff and don't act like a dick.
6. Enjoy yourself inside, don't ruin anyone elses enjoyment.
7. Say thank you when you're leaving, they're the ones that made sure no scum got in to ruin your night and made sure that things ran smoothly inside.

Plus, people don't mess with The Zohan!.

But in all honest, after meeting you in person this is the kind of attitude I'd expect from you. Its just a pity more people couldn't take a leaf out of your book.

But to the OP's rant.

My alarm bells went off when he/she mentioned door staff coping a feel of females, without even having the benefit of having met the chap I'm thinking that the door staff made a good call.

Also people posting rants about bouncers - jeeze guys, your asking us here to assume alot - ie that your not a prick/lunatic/drunk/stoned/underage/violent/history of trouble at the venue or like the OP of last weeks bouncer rant (was it Piste?) he admitted walking up to the que, then the door drinking from a can of beer!.

Of course there are pricks working the doors, lord knows I've worked with alot of 'em myself but as I've said, posting these rants is really asking the people of boards.ie to assume your lilly white yourself.

And thats not an assumption I'm willing to change making.

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Kinetic^

I did it about 6 years ago. Much like the customers, you get your good and bad bouncers. If I were to generalise about the customers like they do about bouncers I'd probably never speak to anyone. People that I met doing it where full time at it or trainee professionals such as barristers/solicitors/accountants etc.

Like a previous poster said, you generally have someone (usually a manager/promoter) on the other end of your radio saying yay or nay to people so you're just relaying that to them.

A manager once told me to refuse 2 guys approaching. I spoke with them and asked them where they were coming from etc etc (usual bouncer gibberish that is not to see if you're living in Dublin 4 but to see if you're too drunk) and I think they said Ballyfermot/Ballymun. So I let them in, they seemed grand. Manager almost lost the plot. They went in, had a few pints and left. No trouble. I doubt the manager learned anything from it though.

Ross_Mahon

Was heading into a club there during the weekend, All my friends are let in with no problems, Then i get asked for ID, The conversation went like this...

"Whats your date of birth there mate?" I tell him my date of birth
"Sorry I'm going to need some ID there"
*Quick Glance at the bouncer for approval that its me in the photo*
"WILL YOU LOOK AT ME?" He gets really angry, So i do what he says
"Sorry mate, Have you got any other form of identification?"
*I browse my pockets and hand him my bankcard*
"Whats your date of birth?" He asks again

So i get pretty frustrated and have to think something up fast, Because there's no way I'm going home, So i think like a bouncer :rolleyes:

"MY STAR SIGN IS LIBRA FOR GODS SAKE!"
To which the bouncer replies "Go ahead there mate"

MariMel

Daroxtar wrote: »

How would there be any bouncers on Boards? If you cant read you can hardly use a computer.

daroxtar not all door security personal are like your opinion, thick and unable to read. door security personal, now have to sit a course and pass an exam in order to get their licence, so they have to be able to read,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh i am a door person,,,,,,,,,,,,,can read,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh and i am able to use a computer.

indough

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itsallaboutheL

MariMel wrote: »

daroxtar not all door security personal are like your opinion, thick and unable to read. door security personnel now have to sit a course and pass an exam in order to get their licence, so they have to be able to read,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh i am a door person,,,,,,,,,,,,,can read,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh and i am able to use a computer.

FYP;)

itsallaboutheL

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

FYP;)

I'm only rippin the pee by the way.

I have a very healthy respect for all security personnel, rarely have i had any distasteful interactions with them and when i have had it was for bloody good reason and they were more than civil.

Yay for bouncers that don't try and kill me!!

Raze_them_all

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I'm only ripping the pee by the way.

I have a very healthy respect for all security personnel, rarely have i I had any distasteful interactions with them and when i I have had it was for bloody good reason and they were more than civil.

Yay for bouncers that don't try and kill me!!

FYP;)

indough

you're supposed to delete the 'i' when replacing it with an 'I' in the fix :pac:

Raze_them_all

indough wrote: »

you're supposed to delete the 'i' when replacing it with an 'I' in the fix :pac:

It has a strike through it, look closely before you :pac:

You fail.

itsallaboutheL

Raze_them_all wrote: »

FYP;)

Pedantic* Bastard



* Here ya go Raze it's the second definition....:):P:P

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedantic

indough

no it doesn't, look again

oh, and :pac:

itsallaboutheL

indough wrote: »

no it doesn't, look again

oh, and :pac:

It clearly does

Dragan

Voltwad wrote: »

First thing said to us was 'Never seen you lads around here before'. When we explained we were in town for a birthhday one lad was refused because he only had his passport and no 'College ID' even though he expressed he wasn't in college as he was taking a year out. We didn't do anything that would have remotely suggested that we were there to cause trouble and that's the god honest truth. I stated already that I know not all bouncers are like this, clearly. But there's a high enough percentage of them to make me curious about things like why exactly they get the job and is there more to it than being a 6'5 tank.

I actually rarely have trouble with bouncers, the reason I started the thread with 'another week....' is because I hear all too often of the same thing.

In that case, it sounds like the guy was maybe just being a bit of a dick....too be honest, i can't say. I've turned away groups of lads from my doors simply because of the vibe i get off one or two of them. Sure, it's not much to go on but after a while you tend to be able to spot the people that might cause trouble. I am not saying this was the case here you...i am just saying that i have turned people away before for no "obvious" reason. You never know if you are right or wrong...sometimes the lads end up saying something to you after and it proves your point.

If you stop lads and they instantly tell you to **** yourself, you know you made the right call. If they will get up in your face they'll do it to anyone else too. It's when you stop someone and they are real nice and mannerly about it that you feel like a dick, and i would nearly always change my mind and just say "Ah **** it mate, i may have read you completely wrong here, get in there, enjoy yourself".

From my years on the doors, you normally get a few architypal bouncers. The Second Jobber, the Gent and the Tool and the Temp. The Second Jobber has normally been in it for a while, has a wife and kids and might be in the army or something similar. A guy who is fairly handy, normally fairly level headed but has other things that get stress him out and lead to making bad decisions.

The Gent is that bouncer that everyone speaks well of, has plenty of manners but won't get pushed either. I've worked with a few and always tried to be one.

The Temp is the guy who won't be a bouncer forever, he is in there for a reason. I have worked with countless lads who were in college and using doorwork to pay their way. I always liked working with these lads because they were eager to a do a good job and normally couldn't afford to **** up and no show, they needed the money.

Finally, you have the Tool. I have sadly worked, and walked from doors worked by, plenty of these guys. Even having worked with them you can't explain why they need to power trip, or try to escalate situations. Seriously, i honestly couldn't tell you what any of them were trying to prove, only tell you that even when i was doorman i had a sense enough to not even work with them, let alone drink in a pub they worked in. There reasons for being a cock are as individual are fingerprints. The attraction would normally be the same though, decent enough money for the hours worked, some power and a chance of aggro.

Raze_them_all

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Pedantic* Bastard



* Here ya go Raze it's the second definition....:):P:P

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedantic

Lol that actually gave me a chuckle!

indough wrote: »

no it doesn't, look again

oh, and :pac:

:eek: Wow.....just wow.

indough

hmm, must be showing up wrong on my screen or something

indough

Raze_them_all wrote: »

:eek: Wow.....just wow.

feck me, i didnt realize i was speaking to the leader of the over reaction society

grmel

i am a door security personal for the last few years,,,,,,,i have never felt up females. the town i work in, the clubs and pubs ring each other, if they have trouble with any individuals or groups. yes i have been in other clubs around ireland and unfortunately some of the door persons are on power trips. please believe me when i say we are not all ''b*****ds or are on power trips''.

truecrippler

bret69 wrote: »

My friend and I were refused from Capitol a few weeks ago for no apparent reason, despite being REGULARS!

Just got the 'not tonight' line! Couldn't believe it, we were dressed well and sober!!!!

Have heard it from a lot of people since then, they must have changed their door policy recently.

Happened to me too recently. My girlfriend and I were going in and her mate was coming too. Girlfriends mate went up first and got in. We went up in hand and the bouncer asks us for our id's. I'm 21 and she's 23, they let her in... check my ID and say "Not tonight".

Hadn't even been drinking or causing trouble.

itsallaboutheL

grmel wrote: »

i am a door security personal for the last few years,,,,,,,i have never felt up females. the town i work in, the clubs and pubs ring each other, if they have trouble with any individuals or groups. yes i have been in other clubs around ireland and unfortunately some of the door persons are on power trips. please believe me when i say we are not all ''b*****ds or are on power trips''.

jesus it's an epidemic

Raze_them_all

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Jesus it's an epidemic.

Do we have to keep doing this?

NickNolte

Is this where all the spoilt, pissed-up Tiger Cubs from the country with the highest consumption of alcohol in the world come when they sober up and want to vent their bile because of how victimised they are?

Don't blame bouncers, kids. I'd recommend an AA meeting followed by a few lessons in how to behave like civilised human beings. Once in a blue moon I'll encounter a doorman with an attitude problem. Every night that I'm out I see the drunken scum of this country falling around the place... and they aren't bouncers. They're the type of people who post on After Hours, complaining about bouncers.

I'm amazed all bouncers in this country aren't overtly arseholes considering how the drinking public behaves and what they have to deal with every night they go to work.

stovelid

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

jesus it's an epidemic

Jesus. It's an epidemic.

The Volt

Dragan wrote: »

Finally, you have the Tool. I have sadly worked, and walked from doors worked by, plenty of these guys. Even having worked with them you can't explain why they need to power trip, or try to escalate situations. Seriously, i honestly couldn't tell you what any of them were trying to prove, only tell you that even when i was doorman i had a sense enough to not even work with them, let alone drink in a pub they worked in. There reasons for being a cock are as individual are fingerprints. The attraction would normally be the same though, decent enough money for the hours worked, some power and a chance of aggro.

That's what I've been on about from the start. Like I said, I know not all bouncers are like that and I acknowledge that there are good and bad people in all walks of life and indeed all professions. The kind of bouncer that you talk about here, The Tool is the one that I was having a go at. I thought I'd made that clear in my choice of words in my OP though, perhaps I should've gone into more detail about the night itself in that particular post.

However, I do appreciate your acknowledgement of the existence of such bouncers and you even said it yourself, there are plenty.

Gavin "shels"

LittleNipper wrote: »

Another bloody bouncer bashing thread, go complain to your parents for god sake.
Im a bouncer, i dont feel up girls and i dont let fecking arsholes in.

I'm guessing you meant "Im a bouncer, i don't feel up arseholes and i dont let fecking girls in", am I right!?:p

Antisocialiser

The reason that there is so many issues with bouncers acting the pricks is because a lot of them are and thats because its the type of job where you get to exercise almost unquestionable power over people wishing to enter.

There is a certain type of person that gravitates towards these positions and that is people with issues like daddy never told me he loved me and i wasnt cool in school but im big and brash now. The reason these threads pop up all the time is because a higher proportion of people who do the job of a bouncer are asshole than say someone who works in the cornershop.

dr.bollocko

Next person to take it personal or fix somebody's post gets banned or hit over the head with a long dead sea lion or both.

SuperGrover

Some years back I decided I just wouldn't be going to nightclubs any more. Pain in the balls, those places.

****e music, ****e beer, crowds, skangers and worst of all, some monkeyman thinking I gave a fvck what he thought of me. People making excuses, bargaining, etc. Ask my hole.

There was a time after this decision where people would still try to get me to go to them but soon gave up. I just don't go.

It's not the solution for everybody but works for me and may well work for some of you who haven't really considered it before...

oeb

I worked in a couple of pubs and clubs in Kerry for a few years.

Voltwad wrote: »

Another week gone by, another ****ty experience with a bouncer for no good reason. 'Sorry not tonight lads'.

In my experience there someone is never stopped for 'no good reason'

Voltwad wrote: »

Are there any bouncers online here? If so could any of ye explain the mentality that a large percentage seem to operate on (God given powers to ruin a random bloke's evening)? Also, if any of ye are brave enough to post will you admit to 'copping a feel' of passing females?

Just doing a job like anyone else. Sexual harrasment is a pretty serious complaint to be making about someone. I suggest you either contact the pub management or the head doorman. That is unprofessional (and potentially illegal) behavior.

Voltwad wrote: »

It shouldn't matter if I'm from Meath, Donaghmeade, Sandymount, Donnybrook or the Moon. If I've adhered to the dress code, have valid ID and am on my best behaviour then I should be allowed in. I am posting here not only to openly state my hatrid for these kind of bouncers (I'm not suggesting you are all like this) but also to try and see if there's anything to be learnt from the shoes of a regualr club goer. For example, it seems to improve our chances if we go up in 3 x groups of 2 instead of a group of 6. Is that true?

Maybe it's different up the country. Personally, I can see why some lads might be prejudced against large groups of lads, but where I worked they were never a problem. Bouncers really have to work a door with snap judgement. If they see a big bunch of lads who may be acting a bit roudy at the door, then they will stop them. They might be the nicest lads in the world, and not cause a bit of trouble for the night, but if there is the slightest inkling in the doormans mind that the might cause trouble, they will be refused. Why? Because it is an absolute nightmare to try and remove a large group from a premises when they do not want to be moved. Far easier to stop them at the door.

Large groups of lads often come off as stag parties too, and alot of bars have strict no stag parties rules.

A doormans job is to keep the people he works with (both door and bar staff) and the other customers safe. If there is the slightest doubt in his mind about you, then you will probably be stopped. If you have an issue with the way he is doing his job pop back during the day and speak to the manager, or try and arrange to speak to that doorman at the start of the night (When the place is empty and before you have been drinking).

nxbyveromdwjpg

raven136 wrote: »

Everyone has a problem when they cant get in and bouncers are on power trips yada yada,yet nobody seems to have any problems asking the bouncers to help you or your friends if there is hassle.The bouncer is your best mate then
.

Are you actually serious?

Yes, when you do your job and prevent hassle in the pub/club, the thing you are there for, the thing you get paid for, well and professionally, people appreciate it and respect you.

When you are a powerhungry prick refusing normal people for no reasonable reason on the door, people dont like it and dont respect you.

Wow, I mean its a crazy ole world alright.. who wouldve ever thought..

:rolleyes:

entropi

Anytime i've gone to a pub/club i've not been refused since i was 18 and looked like a little skanger:pac: Thats 10 years now and the reasons are the very ones that Zohan posted back on the first page.

Adhere to them and you shouldnt have any problems whatsoever.