McCabe Killers released

Joey the lips

Folks I like to think I have an open mind. I am even a bit open about alternatives but dont try and insult me and say you are surprised and shocked. Its just a load of bull and horse.

I would be more shocked if ferris had not have stuck by his republicain ideals. In fact I have to say that ferris is more of a republician than many a couch patatoe i know. He has preached his ideals and stud by them and frankly folks he does not give a stuff about what yoyu think unless of course you support him.

So dont loose any sleep oh and by the way if you honestly think that i believe that this has seriously made you consider about you voting sinn fein.....Yeah right! look at that! Flying pigs!

I admire the man I always have and know what! Prob always will! anybody that sticks by what they believe in is to be admired.

mick867

lynchiered wrote: »

These men were trying to acquiring money to fund a war the Free State Goverment were afraid to fight. I do not consider this "Scummery".

NO they werent

this robbery was never sanctioned by the "Army Council"- Adams himself said that-

The robbery was simply to provide money to build a house for one of the gang- He is currently on the run.

No matter how wrong I think they are- nor how right you think their motives were-

Do you really beleive that killing a Garda simply so they could rob money to build a house has furthered the cause of re unification.


Bobby Sands was a skinny idiot- but he never once robbed anyone-

DoireNod

mick867 wrote: »

NO they werent

this robbery was never sanctioned by the "Army Council"- Adams himself said that-

The robbery was simply to provide money to build a house for one of the gang- He is currently on the run.

Where is the proof for this? Just curious.

Bobby Sands was a skinny idiot- but he never once robbed anyone-

A skinny idiot? Is that a jibe at his hunger-strike? If so, shame on you. The man wasn't an idiot either. He was actually fairly intelligent.

galwayrush

'Daddy, are those men really heros?'
Yes son, they were brave freedom fighters in the war for our independence, and the struggle lives on'
'Daddy, what did they do in the war to go to jail'
'They shot a Detective while attempting to steal money from a bank'

Relevant

DoireNod wrote: »

A skinny idiot? Is that a jibe at his hunger-strike? If so, shame on you. The man wasn't an idiot either. He was actually fairly intelligent.

He wasn't intelligent enough to know that he should have been eating was he.

It is interesting to see that your location is "free derry, Eire" Well you know what, take your bigoted, scumbag opinions and go back to where you came from.
These men conducted an armed robberry and murdered a Garda in the country that they claim to be fighting for. Sinn Fein/IRA consistently say that these men were not acting under the instruction or banner of the IRA and yet when in any way criticised the usual bigoted Shinners are wheeled out to stand up for them. So tell me, if these men were not acting under the banner of the IRA and were in fact just committing a crime do you also support other criminals? Or is it just the ones who are using IRA weapons?

El Siglo

Joey the lips wrote: »

Folks I like to think I have an open mind. I am even a bit open about alternatives but dont try and insult me and say you are surprised and shocked. Its just a load of bull and horse.

I would be more shocked if ferris had not have stuck by his republicain ideals. In fact I have to say that ferris is more of a republician than many a couch patatoe i know. He has preached his ideals and stud by them and frankly folks he does not give a stuff about what yoyu think unless of course you support him.

So dont loose any sleep oh and by the way if you honestly think that i believe that this has seriously made you consider about you voting sinn fein.....Yeah right! look at that! Flying pigs!

I admire the man I always have and know what! Prob always will! anybody that sticks by what they believe in is to be admired.

So you admire a person on the basis that they "stick by what they believe in", this Sir is a most interesting concept perhaps you might admire the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mugabe et al. because these are also people who tended to "stick to what they believe in". Seriously, how can you admire a man like Ferris? He tried to subvert the law by smuggling arms for an illegal war that was not sanctioned by this state (or anyone other than the IRA for that matter), he in other words intended to contribute to needless deaths. And now because he is some sort of revered figure in Sinn Fein and that you can venerate his steadfast, albeit single-minded attitude that his actions are acceptable? Seriously, it's the 21st century, the war is over (officially), his party has signed an agreement in which a unified Ireland would only ever be achieved through a peaceful democratic process. Now, here's Ferris welcoming these thugs (they are thugs, dressed up in the thin veneer of Republicanism) back into society and they are thugs who were robbing a post office, even if it was sanctioned by the PIRA, it's not an excuse or a 'Golden Ticket' to go robbing and killing people.

DoireNod wrote:

A skinny idiot? Is that a jibe at his hunger-strike? If so, shame on you. The man wasn't an idiot either. He was actually fairly intelligent.

I Agree with you on the fact that it was an unnecessary insult against Sands, he is one of these figures from the Troubles that a lot of people empathise with. However, "Intelligent" wouldn't be a word I would use to describe Sands, narrow-minded would be more apt.

mick867

El Siglo wrote: »

I Agree with you on the fact that it was an unnecessary insult against Sands, he is one of these figures from the Troubles that a lot of people empathise with. However, "Intelligent" wouldn't be a word I would use to describe Sands, narrow-minded would be more apt.

Sands wasnt intellegent enough to realise how stupiid it is to kill fellow Irish men

simply to force them into accepting a United Ireland-

He was caught with a handgun- he didnt respect the life of others

why should any of us respect him.


Narrow minded- more like narrow hipped

My name is URL

No mention of Ferris on the news there now.

Just the fact that the UK have decided not to press for extradition of the men.

Pity that

NilByMouth

the length of time they served is longer than most for manslaughter.Gerry mcCabe is the one serving a life sentence.

At the end of the day the robbery was to build a house.Their actions werent sanctioned by the PIRA command.They should of been treated as common crims.Cant understand why they werent, if peaceful Gerry and smiley McGuinness had not givin them the go ahead as IRA men,

Its over and done with now,move along

dr.bollocko

I would like to remind all posters to attack the post and not the posters. I understand we have a hot-topic but from here on in we are zero-tolerance on insulting comments.

Iang87

Perestroika wrote: »

Welcome home lads.

lynchiered wrote: »

Yes we are serious,

Welcome Home Lads!!!

Ye are true soldiers or Ireland, while others ignored British occupation in Ireland you stood up and said NO!!, While the Irish Government watched Nationalist communities be torn apart by loyalist death squads you went out and stopped them.

I wish you and your families all the best,

Beir Bua !!!

Simply the two most retarded posts i've ever seen in my entire life, just christ like its people like these two muppets who make the people doing these clearly wrong deeds think their right.

Fighting for a free Ireland, use a bit of logic will you we cant look after ourselves let alone try look after another 6 counties.

Just plain plain stupid posts i'm actually having an overload of stuff to say but most of it will earn me a ban. But hey then i'd be a true soldier of boards wouldn't I

PrivateEye

Yes we are serious,

Welcome Home Lads!!!

Ye are true soldiers or Ireland, while others ignored British occupation in Ireland you stood up and said NO!!, While the Irish Government watched Nationalist communities be torn apart by loyalist death squads you went out and stopped them.

I wish you and your families all the best,

Beir Bua !!!

Silly post. My troll-detector is going off bigstyle, but in the 2% chance you're not taking the piss:

Firstly, I oppose the presence of the British state in Ireland.

These lads were robbing a post office van. Is that your Workers Republic? Saying that you don't seem too bothered by the workers, suppose they're just like pizza-boys, expendable for Oirrrrreland. It is that exact attitude that ensured republicans could never build a broad anti-imperialist movement that focused on social equality over sectarianism, because sometimes workers just got in the way. Robbing a post office van isn't brave.

Killing McCabe was an extremely stupid move. This wasn't Belfast '72, and any effort to present it as such is ridicolous. To claim they were somehow Soldiers of Ireland is even more ridicolous.

nayorleck114

Its a national disgrace that an elected TD was there to greet them!!!. Never Never Never will SF get my vote.

nlgbbbblth

would there have been such an outcry if J McCabe was a civilian not a Garda?

Dudess

I imagine there would be even more outrage given the significant anti garda sentiment out there.

lynchiered wrote: »

Yes we are serious,

Welcome Home Lads!!!

Ye are true soldiers or Ireland, while others ignored British occupation in Ireland you stood up and said NO!!, While the Irish Government watched Nationalist communities be torn apart by loyalist death squads you went out and stopped them.

I wish you and your families all the best,

Beir Bua !!!

How does the murder of a garda/a robbery achieve any of the above? How did Enniskillen or Omagh or Warrington achieve any of the above?
I'm a republican and I'm absolutely repulsed by what you've written. It's utterly despicable - I'd love to see you try saying it to Detective Garda McCabe's widow or those left bereaved by the other atrocities. You're celebrating cold-blooded murder.

mick867

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

would there have been such an outcry if J McCabe was a civilian not a Garda?

Moot question pal

Det Garda McCabe was a Garda working on our behalf-

If I may ask all those who are cheering the release of these sub normal

scum-

Did the death of Det Garda McCabe make 1 iota of a difference
in your attempt to re unify the Island.

Even the provos and adams have admitted it was wrong.

If it was so wrong- why arent these 2 scum already lying in a wet ditch with a bleeding hole just below the right ear.

Jack Sheehan

This is why I will never in my life give a vote to Sinn Fein. Ever.

Dudess

I love how pro violence republicans urge people to forget the past - that would be "the past" when it comes to republican atrocities I presume, not "the past" when it comes to e.g. Bloody Sunday.

schumacher

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

would there have been such an outcry if J McCabe was a civilian not a Garda?

No there wudnt be. If he had of being a normal civilian the killers would have been releases under the GFA and it would have been forgotten by now.

punchdrunk

Beir Bua !!!

...go-away and ****e!

i hope the Gardai Hound and harass these scumbags for the rest of their days...

punchdrunk

schumacher wrote: »

No there wudnt be. If he had of being a normal civilian the killers would have been releases under the GFA and it would have been forgotten by now.

should we be any less outraged because of the man's job?

schumacher

punchdrunk wrote: »

should we be any less outraged because of the man's job?

No but we shouldnt really be more outraged either. Loads of people have been killed by members of the IRA and other parties both republican and unionist and people didnt seem to care that they were released under the GFA.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Almost wish I voted for Sinn Fein so I could stop voting for them.

Hopefully SDLP will appeal more to republicans now.

The_Kew_Tour

It was a utter disgrace that Ferris was there when these scum bags were free.

Sinn Fein are just biggest ***** ever

My name is URL

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Almost wish I voted for Sinn Fein so I could stop voting for them.

I've voted for them in the last 2 local elections, it sickens me now that I did

Never again will I entertain a SF canvasser

The_Kew_Tour

My name is URL wrote: »

I've voted for them in the last 2 local elections, it sickens me now that I did

Never again will I entertain a SF canvasser

Yes my Dad said same thing after today when he voted for one in local elections in 2004

DoireNod

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Almost wish I voted for Sinn Fein so I could stop voting for them.

Hopefully SDLP will appeal more to republicans now.

The SDLP hasn't ever had much appeal to republicans.

Why do you think that Martin Ferris meeting Pearse McAuley and Kevin Walsh after they've served their sentence, will deter republicans from voting for Sinn Féin?

mick867

DoireNod wrote: »

The SDLP hasn't ever had much appeal to republicans.

Why do you think that Martin Ferris meeting Pearse McAuley and Kevin Walsh after they've served their sentence, will deter republicans from voting for Sinn Féin?

I think the hard core sinn fein supporters will still support sinn fein- no matter how many Gardai they kill- or no matter how many banks they rob or drugs they sell.

what is heartneing is the amount of normal decent intellegent people who are shocked and sickened at not only the death of a Garda
but also the actions of that criminal ferris turning up to collect them. That could only have been done to show thier (sinn fein /ira) utter contempt for the normal decent intellegent people on both sides of this Island.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst that will lose them more and more votes.

mike kelly

adrian280582 wrote: »

Yes my Dad said same thing after today when he voted for one in local elections in 2004

Sinn Fein is a set menu, not a la carte. If you support them then you must by definition oppose the gardai and the institutions of state as they currently exist. How can anyone be surprised by Ferris greeting them on their release?

Joey the lips

mick867 wrote: »

I think the hard core sinn fein supporters will still support sinn fein- no matter how many Gardai they kill- or no matter how many banks they rob or drugs they sell.

what is heartneing is the amount of normal decent intellegent people who are shocked and sickened at not only the death of a Garda
but also the actions of that criminal ferris turning up to collect them. That could only have been done to show thier (sinn fein /ira) utter contempt for the normal decent intellegent people on both sides of this Island.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst that will lose them more and more votes.

Your statement has flaws, Hardcore sinn fein supporters will support them because they believe they are the only party to give them a united ireland. Your statement also Implies that it was sinn fein that killed a garda. Wrong again. Nor did sinn fein rob banks or sell drugs(Now this is funny)

This will not loose votes for sinn fein and as i said before and will say again boards thank god is not representitive of the electorate so opinions here are just hot opinions. They will not transfere into votes! Thats a fact!

But I know many people in Sinn Fein who start there lives as community workers. They figure the only way to get something done is get involved in politics. But then again dont let the reality distort the possability that they are strong in there convictions.

I said it earlier and it was said by someone else who actually said he had contempt for ferris

Ferris is true to his views, he has never changed his opinion, he is a republician and he is a socialist. History will judge him and unlike the hot air here history will be good to him.

I reckon this will actually do ferris good as for republicians. No republician expected anything less.imo

WillieCocker

Joey the lips wrote: »

Nor did sinn fein rob banks or sell drugs(Now this is funny)

:pac:.
It really IS funny.

This will not loose votes for sinn fein and as i said before and will say again boards thank god is not representitive of the electorate so opinions here are just hot opinions. They will not transfere into votes! Thats a fact!

That's because 70% of SF supporters who vote, don't tend to care about anyone else's opinions but their own.
They are the only party and all that bollix.

But I know many people in Sinn Fein who start there lives as community workers. They figure the only way to get something done is get involved in politics. But then again dont let the reality distort the possability that they are strong in there convictions.

They start their lives as criminals, earn their stars, then get bumped to politics.

I reckon this will actually do ferris good as for republicians. No republician expected anything less.imo

Of course it will.
Scum wouldn't expect him to give up and admit defeat now would they.?

mick867

Joey the lips wrote: »

Your statement has flaws, Hardcore sinn fein supporters will support them because they believe they are the only party to give them a united ireland. Your statement also Implies that it was sinn fein that killed a garda. Wrong again. Nor did sinn fein rob banks or sell drugs(Now this is funny)

this has been gone over and over for donkeys years

sinn fein and the ira are one- they are so closely linked that its impossible to say which is which.

sinn fein - its people- its politicians- its supporters
have either killed Gardai- sold drugs- peddled porn- ran protection rackets- robbed more banks than Sean Fitz- robbed post offices
OR
supported thos who carried out the above.

In reality thats fact-

As an aside and seeing as the provos have declared that the "struggle" is over (or like most people- delete struggle and insert criminal campaign)

Do you as a supporter of sinn fein

think that the provos should make reparations for the money they stole.
Plus interest.

El Siglo

Joey the lips wrote: »

Your statement has flaws, Hardcore sinn fein supporters will support them because they believe they are the only party to give them a united ireland. Your statement also Implies that it was sinn fein that killed a garda. Wrong again. Nor did sinn fein rob banks or sell drugs(Now this is funny)

This will not loose votes for sinn fein and as i said before and will say again boards thank god is not representitive of the electorate so opinions here are just hot opinions. They will not transfere into votes! Thats a fact!

But I know many people in Sinn Fein who start there lives as community workers. They figure the only way to get something done is get involved in politics. But then again dont let the reality distort the possability that they are strong in there convictions.

I said it earlier and it was said by someone else who actually said he had contempt for ferris

Ferris is true to his views, he has never changed his opinion, he is a republician and he is a socialist. History will judge him and unlike the hot air here history will be good to him.

I reckon this will actually do ferris good as for republicians. No republician expected anything less.imo

Yes you are right about Ferris, he is a socialist of the highest order and in fact should be venerated along the lines of Gramsci and Trotsky...
History will judge him, like all of his ilk, poorly I hope. I'm a Republican, as are a lot of people, but unlike the brand Republicanism that is inherent in that post, this is a Democratic Republicanism which has a legitimate standing on both sides of the border.

Hardcore sinn fein supporters will support them because they believe they are the only party to give them a united ireland.

Hard core Sinn Feiners will only ever support Sinn Fein because they want stability and since the peace process began there has been more entrenchment of communities (e.g. more peace walls have been built since the end of the troubles than during the troubles). Just like hard core unionists will support the DUP because they want stability and investment into their communities, it's all fear of loss because both sides have played a zero sum game, and this clearly evident from the political process up there, however that's neither here nor there.

Your statement also Implies that it was sinn fein that killed a garda. Wrong again. Nor did sinn fein rob banks or sell drugs(Now this is funny)

If you believe that you'll believe anything! Seriously, do you expect anyone to believe that Sinn Fein has absolutely no links with the IRA and never benefited from the IRA in any way?
All of this aside, I am glad that boards isn't a barometer for the electorate, and that people in general have more sense than to vote for supporters of terrorism and murder, which is what Sinn Fein is especially after yesterday's incident.

bernardo mac

I wonder how many Irish people including those who hold republican principles would look forward to sharing a 32 county Ireland with rabid,intransigent green and orange fascists.The true principles/beliefs of Tone,Emmet,Connolly... have been ditched and desecrated by the Pira and Sinn Fein in recent history

Joey the lips

Well done folks, 3 replies without a shread of proof. Very good must be the fastest replies on boards. I applaud you!


As for ferris entitled to a medical card! Your daft! Its done by means test if you had one you would know that! Clearly having declared what salery he takes which i guarantee you is not what that paper says the medical card section has decided he is entitled to one

But then again. More Sh1t anyone! perhaps a bit of proof!

Quote of the day "Sinn fein and ira are one in the same" very very funny I have to say! I am just picturing all the sinn fein people I know and laughing my ass off!

You are clearly into deep deep political discussion!

WillieCocker

Joey the lips wrote: »

Well done folks, 3 replies without a shread of proof. Very good must be the fastest replies on boards. I applaud you!

That's all you shinners ever say about anything bad ever said about IRA/SF illegal activities.
Then when the "oul lads" are caught, "it wasn't sanctioned".
:rolleyes:

mick867

Joey the lips wrote: »

Well done folks, 3 replies without a shread of proof. Very good must be the fastest replies on boards. I applaud you!



Quote of the day "Sinn fein and ira are one in the same" very very funny I have to say! I am just picturing all the sinn fein people I know and laughing my ass off!

So what your saying is that NO member of sinn fein is or was also a member of the ira-

lets just list of a couple of the top of my head

ferris- mcguinness- o snodaighs election worker- need I go on

DoireNod

WillieCocker wrote: »

:pac:.
That's because 70% of SF supporters who vote, don't tend to care about anyone else's opinions but their own.
They are the only party and all that bollix.

Dude, where do you get this 70% figure? Most people who vote, vote with an agenda.

They start their lives as criminals, earn their stars, then get bumped to politics.

That's just completely wrong. Or are you suggesting that all people in Sinn Féin are guilty of being criminals? Despite what you may think, being a criminal is not a prerequisite for being a member of Sinn Féin. That's such a spurious claim and I think you know it.

I think people know that various current and past members of Sinn Féin were also members of the IRA - especially after the Hunger-Strikes. Is it really that hard to understand that Sinn Féin offered a mouthpiece for former members of the IRA, who perhaps became disillusioned with the armed struggle and surely, their past allegiances are bound to colour the content of their political beliefs. However, this doesn't mean Sinn Féin are the exact same as the IRA.

Joey the lips

WillieCocker wrote: »

That's all you shinners ever say about anything bad ever said about IRA/SF illegal activities.
Then when the "oul lads" are caught, "it wasn't sanctioned".
:rolleyes:

Like i said no proof my son. Talking out your backside. Or to use your own expression "Thats what all anti shinners say" Its clear you will never be voting for them but perhaps we could have a bit of political discussion instead of the usual rubbish..... Then again I guess not!

mick867 wrote: »

So what your saying is that NO member of sinn fein is or was also a member of the ira-

lets just list of a couple of the top of my head

ferris- mcguinness- o snodaighs election worker- need I go on

So let me see was it not you that said

"sinn fein and the ira are one- they are so closely linked that its impossible to say which is which."

so now your actually asking me a different question! Try and stick your points together instead of rambleing

But well done for proving a point. Martin Ferris was a member of the IRA and convicted for it. Done a great job as well by all accounts. Charlie Haughey(RIP) Ran guns up the north! By your daft daft logic every other person in sinn fein is in the IRA.

Get a life, start talking politics folks instead of bull!

There really is noting to say here! Its no better than a bunch of chin waggers standing around a street corner "Well wait till i tell ya what yer won in no.29 is at"

Real political discussion would be nice for a change.

prinz

Joey the lips wrote: »

Get a life, start talking politics folks instead of bull!

Real political discussion would be nice for a change.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0528/1224247598666.html

This is how Sinn Féin/IRA engage in political discussion. Funny thing, again, the man who shot her brother was a known Sinn Féin and IRA member. Funny how these coincidences and overlaps keep cropping up.

dr.bollocko

And we are so done here.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055641281
If you want to talk about this please use the thread in the politics forum.