The Ugly Truth?

Novella · 07-08-2009 8:36pm

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Yup i've seen a few of them. You appear to be attracted to the skinny musical emo type boy.

BOY! :rolleyes:
Yeah, but my point was I wasn't actually attracted to them because of their looks. One in particular, I had no interest in but after I got to know him I was crrrazy about him and went out with him for a long time. So I was saying that lovely does matter to me and just because a guy isn't hot doesn't mean I'm not gonna like him.

bogs · 07-08-2009 9:22pm

ive played guitar on stage with good bands and i sing seconds throught the night but no one told i was even fair.Do they really know?.

Handsome Bob · 07-08-2009 9:30pm

To date, the strongest feelings I have ever had for a girl was for a girl who wasn't "typically attractive". I just found her personality and her whole outlook on life infectious.

Novella · 07-08-2009 9:32pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

To date, the strongest feelings I have ever had for a girl was for a girl who wasn't "typically attractive". I just found her personality and her whole outlook on life infectious.

At last! You do exist!!!!

Handsome Bob · 07-08-2009 9:40pm

Novella wrote: »

At last! You do exist!!!!

Heh.

Admittedly though it has only happened once, the flesh is weak.

Novella · 07-08-2009 9:44pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Heh. Admittedly though it has only happened once, the flesh is weak.

Don't ruin this for me! Haha ah no, yes, yes it is! We eat with our eyes, so they say! :rolleyes:

Handsome Bob · 07-08-2009 9:48pm

Novella wrote: »

Don't ruin this for me! Haha ah no, yes, yes it is! We eat with our eyes, so they say! :rolleyes:

The principle still stands! :P In my eyes it can happen, a lot of it comes down to how comfortable one is in their own skin. If you're happy with yourself and can project that then anything is possible.

Wibbs · 07-08-2009 9:51pm

mad wibbs theory alert(and panda100 and taconnal will be along shortly to rip the ... out of it and me:))

I think women as a group more than men have a wider range about what they find attractive. It makes very good evolutionary sense. In a rapidly changing environment it's pretty much down to women to get as wide a selection of possibly useful characteristics as possible. To take stereotypes, in one envirnonment the slimmer geeky male may be a better bet as he uses less calories and has a better memory, in another environment the huge muscled guy is. So it makes some sense if the ladies have a wider idea of what make attractiveness. They're hedging their bets and if they didn't humanity wouldn't be here today.

Or something. I've been out. Ales have been taken. Assume the worst.:D

Novella · 07-08-2009 9:52pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

The principle still stands! :P In my eyes it can happen, a lot of it comes down to how comfortable one is in their own skin. If you're happy with yourself and can project that then anything is possible.

Yeah, exactly

Confidence really can work wonders! You can't expect others to love you until you love yourself and all that!

Novella · 07-08-2009 9:55pm

Wibbs wrote: »

mad wibbs theory alert(and panda100 and taconnal will be along shortly to rip the ... out of it and me:))

I think women as a group more than men have a wider range about what they find attractive. It makes very good evolutionary sense. In a rapidly changing environment it's pretty much down to women to get as wide a selection of possibly useful characteristics as possible. To take stereotypes, in one envirnonment the slimmer geeky male may be a better bet as he uses less calories and has a better memory, in another environment the huge muscled guy is. So it makes some sense if the ladies have a wider idea of what make attractiveness. They're hedging their bets and if they didn't humanity wouldn't be here today.

Or something. I've been out. Ales have been taken. Assume the worst.:D

Women pick men with traits which will create children who will best survive the environment they are born into!!!!

Wibbs · 07-08-2009 10:04pm

Novella wrote: »

Yeah, totally. I don't think there was ever a time there wasn't pressure on women (and men!) to look a certain way to attract the opposite sex. I think though that the pressure on women to be skinny or wear whatever comes more so from other women, than it does from men. It could be the same vice versa.

Not so much with men. Or not so much that I've noted it, or its very subtle. I would say women are generally more socially competitive than men are and continue that for longer. Again IMH mostly just in the reproductive sphere.

Among the coolest and most grounded human beings I've ever known women over 50 odd are at the top of the charts. Men at 50 odd in my experience not so much.

Wibbs · 07-08-2009 10:06pm

Novella wrote: »

Women pick men with traits which will create children who will best survive the environment they are born into!!!!

Kinda, more a spread of genes that guarantees enough of a variation to tackle any environment.

LightningBolt · 07-08-2009 10:08pm

I'd argue any person will judge someone in everyday life initially solely on looks without actually engaging in conversation with them. Anybody who says otherwise is a blatant liar. I judge girls all the time as to whether or not I find them attractive.

Now if I happen to get chatting with someone I deemed to be unattractive initially she can become a lot more attractive to me depending on what they like to do, on their opinions and attitudes and how well I click with them. Whilst I'm very particular in who I am attracted to initially(dark haired and skinned, certain height and build) I'm not dumb enough to use that as my only means of evaluating a girl. The appearance of my ex-gfs would be testament to that although surprisingly they all seemed to share the same personality traits.

Novella · 07-08-2009 10:11pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Kinda, more a spread of genes that guarantees enough of a variation to tackle any environment.

How did you think of that?! I'm in awe.

Wibbs · 07-08-2009 10:21pm

Where's that? Kildare?

Naw it's out there as a general notion and one I would agree with in again general terms. The subtle stuff is where it gets real interesting.

Novella · 07-08-2009 10:27pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Where's that? Kildare?

Naw it's out there as a general notion and one I would agree with in again general terms. The subtle stuff is where it gets real interesting.

Haha, I hope not!

Ah, I see! I thought it was some kind of genius you had come up with all by yourself!

tech77 · 07-08-2009 10:28pm

RealEstateKing wrote: »

Cause for every superficial guy that wouldnt be interested in a girl unless she looked like Jesicca Alba, theres a woman that wont be interested in a guy unless he earns 100 K a year.

Both men and women are equally capable of being superficial, they are just superficial about different things.

In just the same way as women have to torture themselves to lose weight, and wear the right clothes and make-up and heels and all that crap, us men have to worry about being dominant and confident and successful in order to be attractive to the opposite sex.

As a woman you never have to worry "He'll never be interested in me, Im too shy/Im only a waitress" , all you have to do is look as good as you possibly can. He doesnt give a crap if your not confident or have a crap job.

In short: All women have to do is shave their legs, whereas us men have to shave our whole personality.

Woah, while i agree about physical attractiveness being a biggie for men, i have to disagree about men not caring about confidence.
A confident/independent woman (real confidence, not sh1te confidence) is one of the most attractive traits a woman can have, i'd say.

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:00pm

tech77 wrote: »

Woah, while i agree about physical attractiveness being a biggie for men, i have to disagree about men not caring about confidence.
A confident/independent woman (real confidence, not sh1te confidence) is one of the most attractive traits a woman can have, i'd say.

Confidence in a man is an attractive trait too. Never over confidence though, jeez, what a turn off.

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:03pm

Novella wrote: »

Confidence in a man is an attractive trait too. Never over confidence though, jeez, what a turn off.

Whats the difference between confidence and over confidence?? You should of made a poll to see if looks are that important!

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:09pm

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Whats the difference between confidence and over confidence?? You should of made a poll to see if looks are that important!

Confidence is like just being happy with ones self. Over confidence.... Look in a mirror!! Ah no, I'm kidding. Over confidence is, oh, I dunno, hard to describe! It's like when they say too much of a good thing is actually a bad thing!

Yeah, I should! But I don't even think that's what the thread was meant to be about! It wasn't meant to focus on looks, I dunno what I was thinking now!

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:12pm

Novella wrote: »

Confidence is like just being happy with ones self. Over confidence.... Look in a mirror!! Ah no, I'm kidding. Over confidence is, oh, I dunno, hard to describe! It's like when they say too much of a good thing is actually a bad thing!

Yeah, I should! But I don't even think that's what the thread was meant to be about! It wasn't meant to focus on looks, I dunno what I was thinking now!

So you can only be happy with one's self to a certain degree??
I do look in a mirror,shiney surface a shocking amount for a guy.

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:18pm

Raze_them_all wrote: »

So you can only be happy with one's self to a certain degree??
I do look in a mirror,shiney surface a shocking amount for a guy.

No, you can be happy with yourself as in confident, or you can be unhappy with yourself, not confident! Or you can be OVER confident! I didn't invent the world, don't ask me!

Never really noticed tbh

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:21pm

Novella wrote: »

No, you can be happy with yourself as in confident, or you can be unhappy with yourself, not confident! Or you can be OVER confident! I didn't invent the world, don't ask me!

Never really noticed tbh

Meh I'd be seen as over confident by alot of peole but I'm good looking enough to get away with it*

*I jokish

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:22pm

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Meh I'd be seen as over confident by alot of peole but I'm good looking enough to get away with it*

*I jokish

You're not joking though, are you?!

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:24pm

Novella wrote: »

You're not joking though, are you?!

I did say ish!! I love myself but remark it in a joking manner.

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:26pm

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I did say ish!! I love myself but remark it in a joking manner.

So as not to appear OVER CONFIDENT?!!

Congratulations, you have hijacked my thread.

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:29pm

Novella wrote: »

So as not to appear OVER CONFIDENT?!!

Congratulations, you have hijacked my thread.

No as not to appear as a cocky twat like one the guys I know.
Thanks, do I get a prize?

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:32pm

Raze_them_all wrote: »

No as not to appear as a cocky twat like one the guys I know.
Thanks, do I get a prize?

Are you saying you are a cocky twat but pretend not to be by commenting in a joking manner when you're actually serious?!

No, 78 or whatever is nothing to be proud of, plus you're OT. Make it to a hundred and I might consider it.

Wibbs · 07-08-2009 11:37pm

OK folks, get back on topic or get a room....

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:37pm

Novella wrote: »

Are you saying you are a cocky twat but pretend not to be by commenting in a joking manner when you're actually serious?!

No, 78 or whatever is nothing to be proud of, plus you're OT. Make it to a hundred and I might consider it.

No I'm not a cocky twat. To me a cocky twat is someone who you just wanna hit when they start talking about how awesome they are.

Nah keep it too much effort

Raze_them_all · 07-08-2009 11:40pm

Wibbs wrote: »

OK folks, get back on topic or get a room....

I think it's on topic? I was asking whats confidence(a trait she said is attractive) and whats overconfident? I was interested in seeing what her thoughts on the difference was.

Ah well *leaves thread alone*

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:44pm

Wibbs wrote: »

OK folks, get back on topic or get a room....

:eek:

Raze_them_all wrote: »

No I'm not a cocky twat. To me a cocky twat is someone who you just wanna hit when they start talking about how awesome they are.

Nah keep it too much effort

I was just kidding, I don't think you're a cocky twat. And I can't explain the difference between the confident and over confident, you just know it when you see it. Back OT, everyone's a winner.

LightningBolt · 07-08-2009 11:54pm

Novella, this is Raze_them_all.

Raze_them_all, this is Novella.

Novella · 07-08-2009 11:56pm

LightningBolt wrote: »

Novella, this is Raze_them_all.

Raze_them_all, this is Novella.

Yeah, we've done that already, without the boards alias, when I was four!

Thanks though!

Raze_them_all · 08-08-2009 12:17am

LightningBolt wrote: »

Novella, this is Raze_them_all.

Raze_them_all, this is Novella.

oh hai 0/ I made my communion with you didn't I?

Now back on topic people. Is it possible to add a poll tat this stage??

Novella · 08-08-2009 12:24am

It is possible. It has been done.

bronte · 08-08-2009 12:44am

Happy with the poll results. Also, Gerald Butler is hot. Funny film!

Novella · 08-08-2009 2:23pm

bronte wrote: »

Happy with the poll results. Also, Gerald Butler is hot. Funny film!

Poll results are amazing

But it was probably all women who voted! :rolleyes:

stovelid · 08-08-2009 6:58pm

valery wrote: »

if same was hung like, " ojesus ojesus "

Jesus was well-hung?

What a waste.

valery · 08-08-2009 7:36pm

stovelid wrote: »

Jesus was well-hung?

What a waste.

Oh i really love a wit,

lol.

Handsome Bob · 08-08-2009 7:42pm

Gerard Butler is a travesty to acting.

valery · 08-08-2009 7:51pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Gerard Butler is a travesty to acting.

Jeepers h Christ !!!!!!! I am so behind in so much these days, Gerard Butler, who is he ?? what else was he in ??

Handsome Bob · 08-08-2009 7:54pm

valery wrote: »

Jeepers h Christ !!!!!!! I am so behind in so much these days, Gerard Butler, who is he ?? what else was he in ??

Perhaps most known for his role in 300, you know the "This is Sparta" bloke.

He's also in PS I Love You, and he's Irish in it. Worst. Accent. Ever. I think he watched Darbey O'Gill and the Little People as his sole piece of research.

Novella · 08-08-2009 7:56pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Gerard Butler is a travesty to acting.

Yeah, but he's a babe!!!!

:cool:

Handsome Bob · 08-08-2009 7:58pm

Novella wrote: »

Yeah, but he's a babe!!!! :cool:

WHAT? Novella is judging solely on looks? :eek: :P

Novella · 08-08-2009 8:01pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

WHAT? Novella is judging solely on looks? :eek: :P

Hahahaha, sh!t! I let my guard down! Dammit, what I actually meant was I appreciate his skills as an actor first and foremost and the fact that he attempted an Irish accent appeals to me and secondary to his talents are his looks!!? :cool:

valery · 08-08-2009 8:17pm

Novella wrote: »

Hahahaha, sh!t! I let my guard down! Dammit, what I actually meant was I appreciate his skills as an actor first and foremost and the fact that he attempted an Irish accent appeals to me and secondary to his talents are his looks!!? :cool:

Now thats what ya call a good recovery........real pro in action there.

Salome · 08-08-2009 8:18pm

When I was younger, a friend who I had a humungous crush on (and he knew it), told me that you can't fcuk a personality.

Needless to say, I was gutted as I am the typical gal, great personality and average cuddly looks.

A few years later, crying on my shoulder about his latest break-up, he said he should have asked me out then.

Hah! Too late bucko.

valery · 08-08-2009 8:19pm

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Perhaps most known for his role in 300, you know the "This is Sparta" bloke.

He's also in PS I Love You, and he's Irish in it. Worst. Accent. Ever. I think he watched Darbey O'Gill and the Little People as his sole piece of research.

Oh, ta, saw the "funny version"of 300, lol. know the guy now though.

Novella · 08-08-2009 8:20pm

valery wrote: »

Now thats what ya call a good recovery........real pro in action there.

I was actually considering going back and editing my original post! Can't believe I just said that after pages of practically accusing men of being shallow!

Seriously, someone else logged into my account and posted that "babe" comment, I NEVER would!

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