First Irish Swine Flu Death

skelliser

A young Irish woman has died from human swine flu today at Tallaght Hospital in Dublin.

She is the first person to die from the virus here since the first cases emerged in this country in May.

A young woman from the west of Ireland has died from human swine flu today at Tallaght Hospital in Dublin.

She is the first person to die from the H1N1 virus here since the first cases emerged in this country in May.

Department of Health officials said this evening that the woman had an underlying medical condition.

The family has asked for privacy.

In a statement this evening, Tallaght Hospital said in order to protect the confidentiality and privacy of the family no personal details will be made available.

The hospital says that all national protocols have been followed in regards to the matter.

The statement went on to say that the patient has been in an individual room within the hospital from the time she was admitted and the hospital's Influenza Pandemic Flu Committee has put in place 'all necessary measures to ensure both the safety of other patients and staff within the Hospital'.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0807/swineflu.html





and so it begins.....

Jello

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0807/swineflu.html

She ''had an underlying medical condition''.

My name is URL

It was bound to happen

donvito99

What is this Swine Flu you speak of?¿?¿?

timmywex

:eek:

Someone died from flu :eek:

Its national news :eek:

Never mind the hundreds that die with flu every year, or the previous conditions the person had.

I feel like calling in sick to work until this fluy thing goes away again, think my boss will be impressed :rolleyes:

Diabhal Beag

I blame Roscommon. The Zombie Survival Forum is going to become massive

admiralofthefleet

HAA HAA HAA CHHUUUUU

GLaDOS

My friend had it a few weeks ago

Grand now

AARRRGH

The public are so stupid.

How many professors needs to come out and say the swine flu is no more dangerous than the normal flu before you'll believe them?

Loads of people die from the flu. It's a normal occurrence.

Can you not see this is just more fear mongering? First it was AIDS, then it was CJD, now it's the flu.

You're thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash tonight than you are to ever die from swine flu at any stage in your life.

ttm

timmywex wrote: »

:eek:

Someone died from flu :eek:

Its national news :eek:

Never mind the hundreds that die with flu every year, or the previous conditions the person had.

I feel like calling in sick to work until this fluy thing goes away again, think my boss will be impressed :rolleyes:

afaik you can only get Swine Flu ONCE?

So don't go calling in sick with it TWICE

minidazzler

The Family ask for privacy so we make jokes about it on the interwebs. Nice. This ain't that other top sekkrit forum where this is OK, the family and Meedja have a real chance of reading this.

My name is URL

minidazzler wrote: »

The Family ask for privacy so we make jokes about it on the interwebs. Nice. This ain't that other top sekkrit forum where this is OK, the family and Meedja have a real chance of reading this.

Discussing the matter isn't really an invasion of their privacy =/

Knocking on their door and asking for a statement is

stealthyspeeder

I have swine flu at the moment! (well recovering as first symptoms hit on monday) On the 2nd week of my holiday and all! anyway, Im of work till wednesday on doctors orders even though I told her Im feelin better and will be 100% grand by tomorrow!

Its proper sh!te craic by the way!!

ejmaztec

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

I have swine flu at the moment! (well recovering as first symptoms hit on monday) On the 2nd week of my holiday and all! anyway, Im of work till wednesday on doctors orders even though I told her Im feelin better and will be 100% grand by tomorrow!

Its proper sh!te craic by the way!!

Oh shit, now I've gotta spray Dettol on my internet:eek:

mike65

The good news is that you can nip down the road with your Tamiflu prescription to your local phar-

Oh dear..:(

ejmaztec

mike65 wrote: »

The good news is that you can nip down the road with your Tamiflu prescription to your local phar-

Oh dear..:(

You now have to visit your local coven and dance naked in the woods to fight off the swine-flu (in Kerry anyway).

Slumlion

I dont see whats so funny about an 18 year old girl dying .

kelle

RIP to the young woman and my condolances to her family.

ejmaztec

Slumlion wrote: »

I dont see whats so funny about an 18 year old girl dying .

Nor does anyone else.

MagicMarker

I also have ''suspected'' swine flu, the job sent an email around saying anyone with symptoms should stay home. Of course when I called in sick I was told to come in.

Such is life. I now hope everyone in work catches it and dies, that'll learn em.

stealthyspeeder

I was in England earlier week, and when I was bedbound in the hotel, the staff there phoned the swineflu line and were able to pick up a tamiflu perscription for me! Im actually meant to be quarenteened in the hotel room there until sunday, but I started to feel better and it was doing my head (and wallet) in so I did a runner, and drove back yesterday (was an awful journey and I did take care not to get to close to anyone or cough or sneeze in public!)

Slumlion

ejmaztec wrote: »

Nor does anyone else.

Well if you genuinely didnt you wouldnt be joking about the topic like a little Weasley coward would you.

MagicMarker

Slumlion wrote: »

Well if you genuinely didnt you wouldnt be joking about the topic like a little Weasley coward would you.

Dual at dawn ladies.

My name is URL

Slumlion wrote: »

Well if you genuinely didnt you wouldnt be joking about the topic like a little Weasley coward would you.

Here we go :rolleyes:

People have been dying from this for months, should we not be allowed to talk about it now just because an Irish person has died?

monkeyfudge

AARRRGH wrote: »

Can you not see this is just more fear mongering? First it was AIDS, then it was CJD, now it's the flu.

Yeah. That AIDS thing blew right over... it's not like an entire continent isn't ravaged by it or anything.

Slumlion

My name is URL wrote: »

Here we go :rolleyes:

People have been dying from this for months, should we not be allowed to talk about it now just because an Irish person has died?

Not on a public Irish forum,how do you know a relative doesnt read it.

empirix

yeah bit of respect people. RIP

MagicMarker

Slumlion wrote: »

Not on a public Irish forum,how do you know a relative doesnt read it.

Cause of the tears?

My name is URL

Slumlion wrote: »

Not on a public Irish forum,how do you know a relative doesnt read it.

Same could be said for any number of topics tbh

Nobody is disrespecting the girl as far as I can tell, just the virus

jumpguy

My sister has suspected swine flu (as in, undiagnosed but most/all of the symtoms). I suppose I'm next.

ejmaztec

Slumlion wrote: »

Well if you genuinely didnt you wouldnt be joking about the topic like a little Weasley coward would you.

I'm very upset at being called little.:(

gerky

AARRRGH wrote: »

The public are so stupid.

How many professors needs to come out and say the swine flu is no more dangerous than the normal flu before you'll believe them?

Loads of people die from the flu. It's a normal occurrence.

Can you not see this is just more fear mongering? First it was AIDS, then it was CJD, now it's the flu.

You're thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash tonight than you are to ever die from swine flu at any stage in your life.

While I don't agree with the way some tabloid/trash are covering this your post comes across as extremely arrogant, this pandemic is an unknown that's why there is so much concern it's also the fact that it shows similar patterns to the 1918-19.

Roughly 200,000-500,000 die each year from all other flu's but a pandemic event like this has the potential to kill millions, potential is what its all about, its not how bad it is now its how bad it could become in Autumn/Winter.
The 1918-19 flu started early in the year and was mostly mild but it re-emerged later in the year and decimated populations.

As for people always bringing up "underlying medical conditions" that doesn't necessarily mean as much as people think as a huge percentage of the population have an underlying medical condition of some kind, that could lead to complications.
That's also the reason widespread vaccination is important, its not about protecting the majority of people as most will only get mild doses and survive it, its about people getting vaccinated so they don't pass it on to those who will be less likely to get over it.



It always feels strange posting this seriously in AH.

cherryghost

jumpguy wrote: »

My sister has suspected swine flu (as in, undiagnosed but most/all of the symtoms). I suppose I'm next.

thank feck you're in left orbit, you're not anywhere near ireland.

lostexpectation

AARRRGH wrote: »

The public are so stupid.

How many professors needs to come out and say the swine flu is no more dangerous than the normal flu before you'll believe them?

it is more dangerous, its new.

stovelid

BARRICADE THE DOORS

jumpguy

cherryghost wrote: »

thank feck you're in left orbit, you're not anywhere near ireland.

That means I've exited orbit...I'm on the way to Mars...duh...

AARRRGH

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Yeah. That AIDS thing blew right over... it's not like an entire continent isn't ravaged by it or anything.

You obviously don't remember the 80's. They said we would all have it.

In reality, it's a problem which affects black people (even middle class black poeple are five to twenty times more likely to be HIV+ than a white person), and to an extent the gay community. It's a very minor issue in the heterosexual community.

Also, the figures in Africa are estimates and UNAIDS have admitted they are probably grossly exaggerated.

Anyway, my point is they pulled the same crap in the 80's about you, me and our mother catching AIDS, when in reality it's mostly confined to a small subgroup of people.

The also pulled the same crap with CJD.

Moral of the story: stop believing the media, they want you to be scared.

AARRRGH

gerky wrote: »

While I don't agree with the way some tabloid/trash are covering this your post comes across as extremely arrogant, this pandemic is an unknown that's why there is so much concern it's also the fact that it shows similar patterns to the 1918-19.

Roughly 200,000-500,000 die each year from all other flu's but a pandemic event like this has the potential to kill millions, potential is what its all about, its not how bad it is now its how bad it could become in Autumn/Winter.
The 1918-19 flu started early in the year and was mostly mild but it re-emerged later in the year and decimated populations.

As for people always bringing up "underlying medical conditions" that doesn't necessarily mean as much as people think as a huge percentage of the population have an underlying medical condition of some kind, that could lead to complications.
That's also the reason widespread vaccination is important, its not about protecting the majority of people as most will only get mild doses and survive it, its about people getting vaccinated so they don't pass it on to those who will be less likely to get over it.



It always feels strange posting this seriously in AH.

I'd bet every cent I will ever earn swine flu will come and go without there being a large number of deaths.

The media are constantly trying to scare us. I don't understand why people can't see this.

citizen_p

how many people died of tripping on the street... or the "common" flu in the same time ????

ejmaztec

I had aids once, but the syphilis took my mind off it.

Acacia

minidazzler wrote: »

The Family ask for privacy so we make jokes about it on the interwebs. Nice. This ain't that other top sekkrit forum where this is OK, the family and Meedja have a real chance of reading this.

The meedja maybe, I know if somebody close to me died and it was public news for some reason, the last place I'd look is After Hours.

That said, the jokes are distasteful, but complaining about distaste on AH is a futile exercise, that will result in bawing from the regulars.

Riddle101

AARRRGH wrote: »

The public are so stupid.

How many professors needs to come out and say the swine flu is no more dangerous than the normal flu before you'll believe them?

Loads of people die from the flu. It's a normal occurrence.

Can you not see this is just more fear mongering? First it was AIDS, then it was CJD, now it's the flu.

You're thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash tonight than you are to ever die from swine flu at any stage in your life.

(1)At the moment the only thing people are listening to is the news and unfortunately with all these deaths going on over the last couple of months you can't really be surprised at panic it has caused. I'm not sure about whether there are professors saying that the Swine Flu ''is no more dangerous then a normal flu'' but you can't take chances at a time like this.

(2)You say loads of people die from the flu and that it's a normal occourance but I doubt you'd be saying that if Swine Flu affected anyone in your family. Regardless of whether or not you think it's common, it's still a dangerous thing to catch and since there's a pandemic going on at the moment, all cases have to be looked at carefully.

(3)Fear Mongering? I guess you'd be better off not knowing that there are cases of Swin Flu in Ireland and that you might actually catch it yourself one day. It may not make any difference that we know about it, but at least we know it's here so we can be prepared.

My name is URL wrote: »

Here we go :rolleyes:

People have been dying from this for months, should we not be allowed to talk about it now just because an Irish person has died?

I would imagine that because of the selfish nature of human beings and the belief that as long as it's not my country being infected by Swine Flu it's not so bad. But now that a Swine Flu death has been reported in Ireland, people are now going to start wondering about whether it's going to continue, which it will.

AARRRGH

But can you not see the amount of fear out there is insanely over the top?

If you spend a moment to put things in perspective, you will see hardly anyone is dying from swine flu.

It's not something we need to worry about, or at least, we should worry more about being killed by a car.

If you're not worried about being killed by a car, you really need to ask yourself why the hell are you worrying about swine flu so?

The public's reaction worries me, as it makes me realise how much control the government and media really have.

K-Ren

Hold me.

procure11

AARRRGH wrote: »

The public are so stupid.

How many professors needs to come out and say the swine flu is no more dangerous than the normal flu before you'll believe them?

Loads of people die from the flu. It's a normal occurrence.

Can you not see this is just more fear mongering? First it was AIDS, then it was CJD, now it's the flu.

You're thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash tonight than you are to ever die from swine flu at any stage in your life.

You have a valid point that death occurs always...it is natural for death to occur.

I strongly object to your assertion about Medical practitioners pointing out the dangers of this particular flu..AFAIK....it is not a common flu like the Cold flu.It would be their prerogative and duty to sensitize the public about the nature of the threat of this strain of flu .

You mentioned Aids,Cjd...are you honestly with a straight face telling people that those diseases were not serious enough to educate the public on how to protect themselves ....you would probably take that stance because due to the methodical and careful planning by this same Professors ..the disastrous effects have been curtailed in this country.

The truth is that the Swine flu would have claimed far more lives in Ireland and worldwide if not for the publicity and the awareness it has generated.
The fact that people die from various kinds of flu and other forms of diseases for that matter does not mean we should have a lackadaisical approach towards any potential threat.

P.S If there wasnt any effort by Governments or health practitioners ,I bet people would have complained about their inaction and inertia about the issue.

AARRRGH

procure11 wrote: »

The truth is that the Swine flu would have claimed far more lives in Ireland and worldwide if not for the publicity and the awareness it has generated.

If you got swine flu, and had never heard of it, you would have just assumed it was the flu and would have treated it like the flu.

I don't believe the fear mongering has prevented anything.

procure11 wrote: »

The fact that people die from various kinds of flu and other forms of diseases for that matter does not mean we should have a lackadaisical approach towards any potential threat.

I am all on for educating people about the flu, but we need to keep our heads and not lose perspective.

For example, AIDS. It is extraordinarily difficult for a heterosexual person to catch HIV. This is the reason we don't have a HIV epidemic in the heterosexual community. It has nothing to do with our use of condoms, which contrary to popular belief is very low.

So it wasn't education and fear mongering which prevented the mass spread of AIDS in Western Europe, it's the fact that it is so hard to catch.

procure11 wrote: »

P.S If there wasnt any effort by Governments or health practitioners ,I bet people would have complained about their inaction and inertia about the issue.

Probably, but that doesn't make it right.

mike65

And Lesbos never get it.

Thoie

procure11 wrote: »

I strongly object to your assertion about Medical practitioners pointing out the dangers of this particular flu..AFAIK....it is not a common flu like the Cold flu.

WTF is "the Cold flu"?

I have often had colds, sometimes I've had bad colds, I've been unlucky enough to have had the flu 3-4 times in my life. But I have no idea what this cold flu is.

procure11

AARRRGH wrote: »

If you got swine flu, and had never heard of it, you would have just assumed it was the flu and would have treated it like the flu.

I don't believe the fear mongering has prevented anything.




I am all on for educating people about the flu, but we need to keep our heads and not lose perspective.

For example, AIDS. It is extraordinarily difficult for a heterosexual person to catch HIV. This is the reason we don't have a HIV epidemic in the heterosexual community. It has nothing to do with our use of condoms, which contrary to popular belief is very low.

So it wasn't education and fear mongering which prevented the mass spread of AIDS in Western Europe, it's the fact that it is so hard to catch.




Probably, but that doesn't make it right.

I totally disagree with you about your assertions about AIDS.

Yes..its far easier to get it from male homosexual sex ...as opposed to heterosexual sex...but the reason why it has being curtailed in Europe is because of the level of education/public awareness/easy availabilty of condoms.Are you suggesting that victims of Aids in African countries like Uganda, South Africa ,Malawi etc do not practise Heterosexual sex...WRONG.
You would be so surprised if you knew the number of people in this country and Europe that have contracted the HIV virus....it is no longer a major problem because there are lots of Drugs that can not only prolong their lives but make them live a near normal life.

In Medical Science...the best practice is prevention before cure.If you think that educating the public about the dangers of a disease is fear-mongering.........arrrrrgh...that is wrong .

mike65

edited cos the original post I responded to was deleted.

AARRRGH

procure11 wrote: »

I totally disagree with you about your assertions about AIDS.

Yes..its far easier to get it from male homosexual sex ...as opposed to heterosexual sex...but the reason why it has being curtailed in Europe is because of the level of education/public awareness/easy availabilty of condoms.Are you suggesting that victims of Aids in African countries like Uganda, South Africa ,Malawi etc do not practise Heterosexual sex...WRONG.

No, it has been proven over and over that black people can be up to 20 times more likely to catch HIV than a white person. It doesn't matter if the black person is poor, middle class, rich, gay or straight, the statistics are consistent.

There is a lot of research as to why this is, but the general theory is that white and black people have slightly different immune systems. Note there are already a number of diseases which black people are more prone to, and which white people are more prone to. This is because our immune systems (Africa v Europe) evolved differently.

If you think people in Europe commonly use condoms (i.e. they force all their partners to get tested for HIV before they stop using a condom) you are mistaken I'm afraid.

procure11 wrote: »

You would be so surprised if you knew the number of people in this country and Europe that have contracted the HIV virus....it is no longer a major problem because there are lots of Drugs that can not only prolong their lives but make them live a near normal life.

Drugs don't stop you from catching HV.

procure11 wrote: »

In Medical Science...the best practice is prevention before cure.If you think that educating the public about the dangers of a disease is fear-mongering.........arrrrrgh...that is wrong .

Listen, I don't want to argue with you, but if you really want to think the mass hysteria over something which so far has been no more dangerous than the common flu has been worth it, by all means believe that.

Personally I do not want to live in fear over insignificant risks.