"English Pigs" not welcome in Latvia - should we follow?

netwhizkid

I encountered an English stag in Prague, all I could think of was how much I'd like David Attenborough to do commentary on how some humans have not evolved yet and feature them in it. Absolutely disgraceful stuff, however though before I go calling the pot black alot of the Irish that goes abroad are downright scum too so I won't generalise too much.

Irish hot spots for scummy behaviour would be Majorca, Playa Del Ingeles in Gran Canaria. I swear to god how some people go to these resorts is beyond me, if anyone ever wants to torture me force me to endure one of these places.

I spoke to Americans in Natural History Museum in Praha and they were generally astonished at what they had encountered in their pan European travels. I best explained that these areas are treated as 24/7 versions of Las Vegas permanently on Spring break.

I have encountered some negativity being mistaken for a British Tourist but generally an Irish Rugby jersey or jacket helps to identify, wearing a GAA Jersey abroad is like the Irish International Scummer Flag especially if it sprouts an Arnotts badge.

The British are so aggressive and around the time the IRA shot dead the two sappers up North I encountered a large crowd of burly brits getting on an Easyjet flight at Franz Josef Strauss International and got nasty comments about being a paddy and over the activity by the 'ra up north. I swiftly returned a few expletives in Irish and German and left them bamboozled and went back to my own terminal after finding the right type of Cigarettes.

I then flew home with Aer Lingus with some civilised Germans whom I explained alot about Ireland and they were grand people altogether. They especially liked my praise for Helmut Kohl and his help pumping billions into Ireland in the early nineties.

Riga is definitely the dodgiest city in Europe I have been too.
Police don't care about all the brothels and dirty casinos.Only city I never felt safe walking around ever.Although the ice n the main river is cool to mess about on.

PaulieD

netwhizkid wrote: »

wearing a GAA Jersey abroad is like the Irish International Scummer Flag especially if it sprouts an Arnotts badge.

Good post, pity you felt you had to get a sly dig in on us Dubliners though.:rolleyes:

PaulieD

Latvia is a basket case, it needs tourism from the UK. Shall the UK retaliate by repatriating all Latvian citizens? Only fair.

Expresso Bongo

Doesn't bother me to have them here spending their money. Then again I'm not stupid enough to spend more than 30 seconds in temple bar at any given time.

As to people who say we are Irish are generally the same as the members of an English stag, may I draw attention to their bizarre slow loping walk (as tho they are having a secret competition so see who can hold a small brick between their buttocks the longest) and their fondness for staying on the tanning beds too long, leading to a universal dark-pink hued face and premature aging. Truly a different breed of individual I'm sure you'll agree.

MikeC101

It's amusing to think that some people apparently believe that there are hordes of wealthy families waiting in the wings to descend en masse to places like Riga, if only it wasn't for the maurading bands of English stag parties.

I'd heard Prague had a similar reputation before I visited some years back. When I got there I didn't notice that many stag parties at all - there were signs up in some bars saying stuff along the lines of "no stag parties" but other bars welcomed them with open arms. In essence, if you didn't want to encounter stag parties, you just didn't go to the places catering to them.

Fairly obvious, I would have thought - don't go to the places being touted by dodgy looking men on the street as "all you can drink" for flat flee, or promising "pretty ladies" and strippers, and you likely won't encounter them.

Not like they were prowling the museums in the mornings, or having drinking parties around Kafkas grave.

It's kind of like spending all your holiday in Temple Bar between the hours of 6pm and 4am and complaining that Ireland was overrun by drunks, stag parties and hen parties.

Nodin

This solution to the problem seems to get the message across, yet doesn't target all Brits.....

A Greek woman appeared in court in Crete today accused of setting fire to a British tourist after he allegedly pulled down his trousers in front of her.
Marina Fanouraki, 26, was charged with assault after the incident in the holiday resort of Malia in which she is said to have poured a flammable liquid over the man and set fire to it with a lighter.
Stuart Feltham, 20, from Swindon, suffered second-degree burns and is recovering in a private clinic. He was reported as having suffered burns to his genitals, but the Foreign Office said it understood that his chest and abdomen were injured.
The story made headlines in Greece, where some have hailed the woman a hero. Tension between drunken British tourists and locals in Crete is on the increase. Only last month two British visitors were beaten up in Malia after one crashed a motorcycle into a supermarket.
Fanouraki, a student, turned herself in to police and she appeared in court in Iraklion, the biggest town in Crete, wearing jeans and large dark glasses.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/07/tourist-set-alight-crete-greece

netwhizkid

PaulieD wrote: »

Good post, pity you felt you had to get a sly dig in on us Dubliners though.:rolleyes:

Sorry, just Dublin probably with its population has just some scumbags, although on a per capita basis it may be less. In all fairness the behaviour of Irish people abroad is hardly saintly now is it. Case in point

slimjimmc

Nodin wrote: »

This solution to the problem seems to get the message across, yet doesn't target all Brits.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/07/tourist-set-alight-crete-greece

From that website:

She claims she was acting in self-defence and only threw a drink in Feltham's face.
Her lawyer said: "He fondled my client's breasts and buttocks and she poured her drink over him and left. Shortly afterward she heard cries and saw her friends trying to extinguish him."

If this is true then I'm not surprised but what the heck was she drinking, ethanol? :eek:

indough

slimjimmc wrote: »

If this is true then I'm not surprised but what the heck was she drinking, ethanol? :eek:

possibly ouzo

Nodin

Nodin wrote: »

This solution to the problem seems to get the message across, yet doesn't target all Brits.....


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/07/tourist-set-alight-crete-greece

Crete truly is an awful place. The locals have to be some of the most horrible, rude and out-to-rip-you-off creeps that I have ever encountered anywhere in the world. I went there on a 'Leaving Cert' holiday a few years ago and my God.

Everything from the security to the hospital staff I encountered (one of the lads fell off his moped) were out to get something off you.

For an island that seems to predominantly live off tourism, you'd think they'd be thanking their lucky stars that people even bothered going. The place practically shuts down for the winter I was told. I advise anyone that asks me about the place to never ever ever go anywhere near the dump.


Oh, and the place we were staying in actually robbed the towels from outside a mates room (they thought you left them outside when they were dirty) and knocked up about 5 minutes later to "change the towels" (didn't knock on any other doors). When he found that there was none he charged them some god awful amount like 20 euro per towel and said he would kick them out if they didn't pay.

The amount of stories I have like that from the holiday. Makes me shudder thinking about it.

Nodin

netwhizkid wrote: »

has just some scumbags, although on a per capita basis it may be less.

Stabbing each other round the swimming pool, puking in the swimming pool, pissing in the swimming pool and - the all time classic - shitting in the swimming pool (the last being an LC holiday, lads from a private school).

Attacking the staff, attacking each other....one shower (and this was going out of Cork or Shannon - can't remember which) robbed a 'ghetto blaster' (plus wire, plug) out of the duty free and were arrested before the plane left the tarmac.

Whinging - its too hot (about season averages in Cyprus and Crete) - 'They have toes like monkeys' referring to Egyptians - 'too many black people' - that was Jamaica (true story - she thought the natives were kept outside and away from the white folk), 'too many young women topless round the pool'/'too many women topless on the beaches'..

Few years back there was a classic that talked of going into a bar and it 'taking some time for the import of the overwhelmingly male crowd to sink in' and the horror of 'being approached' - said that the Brochure should contain a warning about the "overwhelmingly homosexual nature" of the clientelle of some of the smaller Greek Islands..recently there was a 'too many gays' one....that was Turkey.......

fryup

fryup wrote: »

yes, but they're very loud & cocky and they've got a "swagger" about them that really irks me:mad:

i just don't feel comfortable when they're around

brummytom wrote: »

"They"? Surely a generalisation?

The majority of English people are absolutely sound (look at that study that showed the British to be the 'best' tourists around the world); but there's some idiots that go around giving us a bad reputation; doesn't mean we're all like that... it really irks me people forming their opinions of a whole nation from a few idiots.

when i said "they" i meant the type of british > mainly english that come to temple bar every weekend, and i'm sorry to say but the majority of them are assh*les

you see the english come in two extremes, they're either ...very nice:) or very nasty:mad:

procure11

English Pigs not welcome in Latvia...Should we follow?

I dont think we are in a position at the moment to vet who comes to Ireland to spend money that we desperately need .
A few years ago! maybe.
At the minute they should all be welcome especially considering their attitude wouldn't be so much different from what occurs on an average Friday night in most Irish towns really.:D

Wheely

georgiecasey wrote: »

North side Dublin, bad parts of Limerick stags behave far worse in Europe IMHO.

You follow them around and ask them where they're form do you? And they don't mind when you inquire as to which side of the Liffey they live on? Wow, you must be as affable as Louis Theroux!

Dudess

Every country has its yobs, therefore if English stag parties are to be banned, all stag parties should be banned and I really can't see how that could be enforced. People who behave like twats when they've had too much alcohol can be perfectly reasonable human beings when sober.

orourkeda

If we ban English "pigs" as they have been mentioned in the thread title, this can only be happen if irish pigs are banned from travelling abroad.

I have witnessed many embarrassing and unfortunate experiences with Irish people abroad too.

An Fear Aniar

Dudess wrote: »

Every country has its yobs, therefore if English stag parties are to be banned, all stag parties should be banned and I really can't see how that could be enforced.

OK, well the Latvian people mentioned specifically the English stag parties and the incident in Greece recently also speicifically highlights the behaviour of the English.

It's nice and conciliatory and ecumenical of you to want to stop all the fun for everyone but the evidence is in that there is a problem with parties specifically from one country, England.

I see how they behave on the piss in their own country, it's really **** and it's not chavs either, it's the mainstream young working people letting off steam.

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galwayrush

Seriously, should we ban pork products like for example English Pigs because of the Swine Flu?:rolleyes:

AckwelFoley

I was in Pague just before it became the target for stag parties. I remember sitting at a table with my girlfriend at the timedrinking coffee and soaking up the atmosphere of what is a fantastic city.. and then in the distance it comes.. the chants.. getting closer.. "who ar ya! who ar ya!"

Ive no problem with English people in the slightest.. just the moronic loudmouth ones... they tend to be from east london

Dudess

An Fear Aniar wrote: »

OK, well the Latvian people mentioned specifically the English stag parties and the incident in Greece recently also speicifically highlights the behaviour of the English.

And an incident in Greece involving Irish yobs would "highlight the behaviour of the Irish" - I don't see a logic.

It's nice and conciliatory and ecumenical of you to want to stop all the fun for everyone

Except I don't "want to stop all the fun for everyone" - please don't twist my words. I'm not disagreeing there is a lot of trouble caused by certain English stag parties but there is trouble caused by stag parties from other countries also, as well as stag parties from England that aren't troublesome, so, based on the above, it would be dreadfully discriminatory to target English stag parties solely. And where does one draw the line? Is it just stag parties or is it every type of sojourn involving English people?

I see how they behave on the piss in their own country, it's really **** and it's not chavs either, it's the mainstream young working people letting off steam.

Similar to Ireland. And Scotland, Wales, Poland, Spain... Granted, I'd be very surprised if Germans behaved like yobs abroad - but that doesn't mean none of them would.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

Wheely wrote: »

You follow them around and ask them where they're form do you? And they don't mind when you inquire as to which side of the Liffey they live on? Wow, you must be as affable as Louis Theroux!

I don't live in Dublin, culchie from Clare, sorry if I don't know the ins and outs of the scumbag areas but in the city centre, Dublin 1 and 2, I learned not to venture above the river and to stick to the south.

Some of the creatures I see when I head to Croke park should be put down.

OPENROAD

As Irish we don't tend to have problems as we never get drunk and would never do anything as disgsuting as getting sick in the street or pissing in public and of course we don't tend to sing in the streets like those nasty English people do. The Gardai are very lucky in Ireland in that they don't have the problems of dealing with fighting drunks and ask any taxi driver and he will tell you how awfully well behaved we are at taxi ranks in the early hours of the morning. And of course A&E tends to be like a ghost town on weekends.

Degsy

super_furry wrote: »

Ours are just as bad, if not worse.

They just arent..even the worst of them have a bit of respect for other countries when they're there...some of the brits i've seen treat other countries like subhman imbeciles to be insulted at every turn..culturally english behave appalingly abroad.

OPENROAD

Degsy wrote: »

They just arent..even the worst of them have a bit of respect for other countries when they're there...some of the brits i've seen treat other countries like subhman imbeciles to be insulted at every turn..culturally english behave appalingly abroad.

Never been to Santa Ponsa then?

Degsy

OPENROAD wrote: »

Never been to Santa Ponsa then?

Santa ponsa is not exactly the capital of some proud european country now is it?

OPENROAD

Degsy wrote: »

Santa ponsa is not exactly the capital of some proud european country now is it?

Not the point though is it?

indough

Degsy wrote: »

They just arent..even the worst of them have a bit of respect for other countries when they're there...some of the brits i've seen treat other countries like subhman imbeciles to be insulted at every turn..culturally english behave appalingly abroad.

what an absolute load of ****e

waitinforatrain

phasers wrote: »

No, they bring money into the country

money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money mmmmmmmmmmmmmoneyyyyyy!

Wheely

georgiecasey wrote: »

I don't live in Dublin, culchie from Clare, sorry if I don't know the ins and outs of the scumbag areas but in the city centre, Dublin 1 and 2, I learned not to venture above the river and to stick to the south.

Some of the creatures I see when I head to Croke park should be put down.

You were the one who mentioned north-side dublin. Obviously my sarcasm was lost on you there but given your response I'm not surprised. I'd say a lot gets lost on you.

I presume the creatures you refer to are actually human beings right? And they should be "put down"? Ah well you're a lovely little chap altogether aren't you!?

prinz

I've seen Irish behave like animals abroad, and I've been turned away from a hostel in New York because of what some Irish guests did to the place a few days before I was there.

Fratton Fred

K-Ren wrote: »

Well, at least our stag parties don't last 800 years.:)

i went on one in Leitrim and it sure as hell felt like it did.

An Fear Aniar wrote: »

OK, well the Latvian people mentioned specifically the English stag parties and the incident in Greece recently also speicifically highlights the behaviour of the English.

It's nice and conciliatory and ecumenical of you to want to stop all the fun for everyone but the evidence is in that there is a problem with parties specifically from one country, England.

I see how they behave on the piss in their own country, it's really **** and it's not chavs either, it's the mainstream young working people letting off steam.

lost passport? in prison? skint?

if you are that desperate to leave, I'm sure we can have a whip round and sort out a ticket for you.