Ireland's Old Bottleknecks

mysterious

MYOB wrote: »

Cahir, Mitchelstown.

They were mentioned already.

L1011

mysterious wrote: »

They were mentioned already.

Not in relation to serfboard's question they weren't.

Bards

mysterious wrote: »

I mentioned that on the previous page if you looked.

Nope, not on the previous page, or the page before that, but on the very first page you did mention it, so why did you then say :

"Limerick was a more of a through road for national traffic, the other cities have national routes that merely end or begin at arrival."

We are not mind readers on here

mysterious

MYOB wrote: »

Not in relation to serfboard's question they weren't.

It was mentioned in my first post,

I'm not your gatekeeper to remind you.:rolleyes:

mysterious

Bards wrote: »

Nope, not on the previous page, or the page before that, but on the very first page you did mention it, so why did you then say :

"Limerick was a more of a through road for national traffic, the other cities have national routes that merely end or begin at arrival."

We are not mind readers on here

I said it, are you going to have a hissy fit over which page now?

Giuseppe90

Moate definitely ranked up there

L1011

mysterious wrote: »

It was mentioned in my first post,

I'm not your gatekeeper to remind you.:rolleyes:

And again, not in the context of serfboards post. You're wrong (again), just drop it.

KevR

veryangryman wrote: »

Kinnegads non-motorway bypass can get busy at times. Same for Loughreas.

I hate the Loughrea Bypass. They managed to build the whole thing with continuous white line ao there's no chance whatsoever for overtaking. I know it's going to be an R road in the long run but that's no excuse for doing such an aweful job.

Carawaystick

KevR wrote: »

I hate the Loughrea Bypass. They managed to build the whole thing with continuous white line ao there's no chance whatsoever for overtaking. I know it's going to be an R road in the long run but that's no excuse for doing such an aweful job.

It's a lot better than Dunkellen St or the whole eastern entrance to the town, no overtaking chances there and an average speed of 0 at times....

KevR

It's a huge improvement on driving through the town but I still think they could have made it slightly straighter and been a little less enthusiastic with the solid white line (some of it is straight enough to overtake on but they put down solid white regardless).

The link road from East Ballinasloe to the M6 has overtaking opportunties. It's busy at the moment but when the Galway-Ballinasloe motoway opens it will more than likely be less busy than the Loughrea Bypass will be after the motorway opening. The link road is only part of a diversion for 8 or 9 months and it's better than the Loughrea Bypass which is part of the N6 National Primary Route between 2006-2010.

mysterious

MYOB wrote: »

And again, not in the context of serfboards post. You're wrong (again), just drop it.

MYOB, I don't carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre

go away!

mysterious

KevR wrote: »

I hate the Loughrea Bypass. They managed to build the whole thing with continuous white line ao there's no chance whatsoever for overtaking. I know it's going to be an R road in the long run but that's no excuse for doing such an aweful job.

What the hell are you expecting ffs???

KevR

mysterious wrote: »

What the hell are you expecting ffs???

See my other post above.

L1011

mysterious wrote: »

MYOB, I don't carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre

go away!

You cared enough to claim I'd posted something you already had, when you hadn't. Twice.

mysterious

Lucan
Leixlip
Maynooth
Klicock

Victor

Behave.

Carawaystick

KevR wrote: »

It's a huge improvement on driving through the town but I still think they could have made it slightly straighter and been a little less enthusiastic with the solid white line (some of it is straight enough to overtake on but they put down solid white regardless).

Yeah, It was built on the cheap, because the M6'd bypass it in the end. I guess the co.co are cautious about allowing overtaking, just be glad there is a 100 limit on it.

The co.co. had to un-rezone land that they had rezoned in the path of the bypass just as the nra announced this was to go ahead. the nra told them it was cancelled unless the decision was rescinded. which in fairness to the co.co. they did.

Sponge Bob

KevR wrote: »

I hate the Loughrea Bypass. I know it's going to be an R road in the long run but that's no excuse for doing such an aweful job.

It should be N65 (east ) and N66 ( west) ....and hopefully they will finish the missing link west of the town real soon

grenache

mysterious wrote: »

Some of the routes
Cork - Galway
Wateford Galway
Kerry - Dublin (bypassed)
Clare - Dublin
North Cork - Dublin (bypassed)

These routes use the main streets of Limerick STILL.

The Dock Road maybe, but none of the main city centre streets (like O'Connell St, Henry St) would be used for these routes.

grenache

Chris_533976 wrote: »

Croom

Zoney wrote: »

Patrickswell

I'm presuming either both of you have been living in a cave for several years or are just confusing these villages with somewhere else? Patrickswell has been by-passed by the dual carriageway since 2000 and the Croom by-pass was completed in 2003.

Adare is the real traffic bottleneck in County Limerick, and definitely one of the worst in the country. 2 mile tailbacks on the Limerick side at 5pm on most evenings are common.

L1011

grenache wrote: »

I'm presuming either both of you have been living in a cave for several years or are just confusing these villages with somewhere else? Patrickswell has been by-passed by the dual carriageway since 2000 and the Croom by-pass was completed in 2003.

Adare is the real traffic bottleneck in County Limerick, and definitely one of the worst in the country. 2 mile tailbacks on the Limerick side at 5pm on most evenings are common.

This thread is for *former* bottlenecks. The entire point is listing places that aren't anymore!

grenache

MYOB wrote: »

This thread is for *former* bottlenecks. The entire point is listing places that aren't anymore!

Errr, oops, how embarassing

L1011

grenache wrote: »

Errr, oops, how embarassing

I made the same mistake myself, some posts after having replied normally

road_high

Some bad ones to become history in the next few months/year or more include;

Abbeyleix (of course)
Mountrath
Castledermot
Waterford
Ballinasloe
Tullamore

Carawaystick

How many towns not on Primary routes are bad bottlenecks?
Tullamore being a prime example.

Sponge Bob

Carawaystick wrote: »

How many towns not on Primary routes are bad bottlenecks?
Tullamore being a prime example.

I always get caught in Tipperary town for some reason

Tech3

Carawaystick wrote: »

How many towns not on Primary routes are bad bottlenecks?
Tullamore being a prime example.

Killaloe/Ballina is bad for just regional roads connected to it. Given that the bridge only allows one way traffic is the main cause of this. A future bypass is in the pipeline and its at the route selection stage I think. Another example of a congested town with just regional roads connected to it is Athenry.

Interesting page on Killaloe bypass here:

http://www.powerboat.ie/forums/inland-waterways-ireland/3690-killaloe-bypass-bridge.html

L1011

Carawaystick wrote: »

How many towns not on Primary routes are bad bottlenecks?
Tullamore being a prime example.

Ratoath, Clane and Graiugenamanagh have all had bypasses/relief roads built despite only being on regional roads, let alone secondaries!

Mountcharles used to be very bad and on a secondary.

road_high

Sponge Bob wrote: »

I always get caught in Tipperary town for some reason

Tipp town is on a National Primary; the N24 Waterford-Limerick route...though much of the road is off such a low standard you would hardly know otherwise

marmurr1916

Dublin - always a hell of a bottleneck.

Fairdues

Abbeyleix is always awful - until it's bypassed next year, hopefully.

mysterious

You all forgot Dundrum:p

benralph

serfboard wrote: »

Swords
Kinnegad
Enfield
Loughrea (2010)

Anyone like to add any others (I'm sure there are plenty)?

How about Oranmore?? bypassed by dual.c way back in early nineties! To be bypassed again by M6

benralph

mfitzy wrote: »

Was stuck in Abbeyleix today and was thinking it is one of the last remaining really bad bottlekneck towns on our National road network.
Trying to do up a list of towns that were once notorious bottleknecks that have been consigned to history;
All used be regulars on AA Roadwatch.

Off hand I can think of;

Naas
Monasterevin
Portloaise
Kilcullen
Carlow
Gorey
Wexford
Arklow
Callan
Cashel
Mitchelstown
Fermoy
Cahir
Nenagh
Drogheda
Balbriggan
Dundalk
Longford (N4)
Athlone

Does anyone remember Claremorris (N17) pre 2001? & that nasty corner at the end of the town, known as the old bank corner! The town was undoubtedly one of the west's worst bottlenecks! fridays were a nightmare!

benralph

Carawaystick wrote: »

How many towns not on Primary routes are bad bottlenecks?
Tullamore being a prime example.

Athy, Co.Kildare on the N78? can be a rather troublesome spot!

Ballinrobe, Co.Mayo on the N84 has become a nasty bottleneck in recent years, as the main Galway-Castlebar road passes thru the town's narrow one way streets!

Clonakilty and Bandon, Co.Cork both on the N71? not to familiar with these towns, but i'd imagine traffic can be heavy thru these town's, as a section of the N71 is of dual carriageway standard east of Bandon.

L1011

Clonakilty is OK from what I've seen - there is a 'town bypass' that takes traffic off the very narrow town centre streets.

patrickc

castledermot on the N9 can be a fecker also

benralph

patrickc wrote: »

castledermot on the N9 can be a fecker also

Castledermot will be bypassed very shortly!

road_high

benralph wrote: »

Athy, Co.Kildare on the N78? can be a rather troublesome spot!

Especially if there's a funeral going on! Town comes to a total standstill. Will be interesting to see what impact the M9 has when it opens. Should take even more traffic off the N78 from Kilkenny especially. New Link road tying in north of the town to the new road.

mysterious

Hard to think that the N78 is the old cork road. There is something of character about the N78 going past Athy towards Callan.

road_high

mysterious wrote: »

Hard to think that the N78 is the old cork road. There is something of character about the N78 going past Athy towards Callan.

Towards Castlecomer you prob mean! Yea it's a nice drive up out of Athy and not a bad road but the game has moved on. Wonder how long before the Bus Eireann and JJ Kavannagh services to Clonmel/Kilkenny retreat off this old route as well. I don't see any sense in putting all services onto it seen as the majority want to get to/from Dublin.

dmeehan

I can't believe that no one has mentioned Castleisland yet - thankfully the bypass is on its way

road_high

dmeehan wrote: »

I can't believe that no one has mentioned Castleisland yet - thankfully the bypass is on its way

'Cos we're mainly discussing "old" bottlekencks on this thread. Castleisalnd still there unfortunately, but not for too long more. I'm sure it's mentioned on the other thread "Towns still waiting for a bypass"

Mocrie14

benralph wrote: »

Castledermot will be bypassed very shortly!

Whats the latest re the Castledermot bypass? Is it still on target for next spring? When heading south, where will it begin?


Thanks

L1011

Bazbu wrote: »

Whats the latest re the Castledermot bypass? Is it still on target for next spring? When heading south, where will it begin?


Thanks

It could easily be open this winter, it'll run directly from the end of the M9 Kilcullen Bypass to the start of the M9 Carlow Bypass.

HonalD

Bluetonic wrote: »

Chapelizod & Lucan.

Ah, I remember it well, going west and taking a couple of hours to get past Lucan Village...only then to go through Leixlip, Maynooth, Kilcock......how did we survive!