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How the hell did the Walther SP22 end up on that list? It is completely unsuitable and not designed for Olympic shooting. Look at this
Yet the buckmark, mk3 ruger and hammerli xsse are not there.
I think it's this one that's on the list. It says SP22/SSP/M4 which doesn't make sense, but SP22/M4 does
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So Sparks, there's clearly some valuable feedback here for the DOJ to include the buckmark, luger, webley etc. Any chance you can pass on the suggestions?
Is it going beyond the realms of reality that they treat this classification in a way like they did with shotguns - i.e. up to 6 round capacity = unrestricted (includes the revolvers). Greater than 6 = restricted/banned. And God forbid, they might even allow .22 conversion kits for all those 'evil' glocks and sigs etc.
a .22 is a .22. I just don't get it..
Thats just what i was hoping,,either a x esse or a .22 kit for my glock.
not in a situation to get something more expensive than that.
YES a .22 is a .22 and thats the doj should be looking at.0 -
bigred the prophet
Went back to look at the discussion on the original restricted SI here and found this...to Sparks and RRPC's discussion of Olympic vs ISSF;
Won't the lack of a list of specific, named list of allowed & restricted firearms just mean the local super will look at a picture of a pistol and if it's got a match grip and looks 'targety' it's ok, as opposed to someone buying, say, a sig mosquito and wanting to do some informal target shooting.
What about all those guys from Hilltop and places like that with revolvers etc. - they're hardly 'Olympic Grade', but are good enough to hold some of the best scores in the country at the moment.
They're hardly going to have a list of all the pistols used in previous Olympics and base their decisions on this? How would they even know?
Is it all back again to the 'idontlikethelookothat' school of law-making for this area at least.
Did those of you involved in this process ever discuss the generation of a database of allowed/restricted/prohibited, such as that which exists in Canada? Given we've gone one step, is this something possible in the coming years?
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Thats a funny list
They seem to have prohibited anything with a barrel less than 105mm and the list is the stuff that isn't prohibited and has a barrel less than 105mm.
v. confusing
Yeah I was confused too but -
Certain handguns for use in international sporting competitions are excluded from the prohibition affecting the short-barreled......0 -
The list of pistols on the Canadian site all have barrels with a length greater than 105m. Some of them are up to 150mm. But, in Canadia:) it seems all pistols are restricted, some are prohibited. Hope the DoJ are not reading this thread for more ideas!Thats a funny list
They seem to have prohibited anything with a barrel less than 105mm and the list is the stuff that isn't prohibited and has a barrel less than 105mm.
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The list of pistols on the Canadian site all have barrels with a length greater than 105m. Some of them are up to 150mm. But, in Canadia:) it seems all pistols are restricted, some are prohibited. Hope the DoJ are not reading this thread for more ideas!
OK thanks tony, I should have read it properly the first time.
We dont really want that system so.
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problem with that bigred is that some of the smith and wesson revolvers have 10 shot cylinders and i am sure many others do too , they are a very accurate .22 and excellent for normal club target shooting , seems though that some .22 rimfire rounds are far more deadly than others .So Sparks, there's clearly some valuable feedback here for the DOJ to include the buckmark, luger, webley etc. Any chance you can pass on the suggestions?
Is it going beyond the realms of reality that they treat this classification in a way like they did with shotguns - i.e. up to 6 round capacity = unrestricted (includes the revolvers). Greater than 6 = restricted/banned. And God forbid, they might even allow .22 conversion kits for all those 'evil' glocks and sigs etc.
a .22 is a .22. I just don't get it..
personally i don't think that 10 rounds for target shooting is excessive , and the capacity of a firearm is down to its magazine , does this mean that if i throw away or destroy the 2 10 shot magazines that came with my ruger, and replaced them with 5 shot ones that it would then be an unrestricted pistol ?0 -
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