Science TR071

Sugarglass

Hey, in regards lab coats and dissection kits, I read somewhere (possibly this thread) that they're cheaper in Clarendon medical bookstore on Clarendon St. (Duh! ). Is this true or not?
Thanks again to anyone who answers.:)

GlasnevinRed

http://www.clarendonmedical.com/searchitems.asp?bysearch=A&title=lab+coat&author=Author&isbn=ISBN&classcode=&image.x=0&image.y=0&image=search

Bajingo

Were the dissection kits not 7euro?! The safety glasses were a fiver for a pair if you dont wear regular glasses.

If you wear regular glasses the safety specs cost 2euro. These were last years prices anyway.

Alexl

I'm assuming that the dissection kits are for bio, is there anything I need for phy/maths/chemistry???? Is the fx-83 Es calculator good enough????

Bajingo

Alexl wrote: »

I'm assuming that the dissection kits are for bio, is there anything I need for phy/maths/chemistry???? Is the fx-83 Es calculator good enough????

Ye they're for bio and you dont use them straight away anyway..

The labcoat is for all labs and you wont get into a chem lab without safety specs.

For the labs you have to buy specific lab books(for bio and chem anyway)..I dont think you anything special except for a lab coat for physics labs although I could be proven wrong

Ye that calculator is grand I use that one dont go buying a new one..

celtic723

What will we be covering in the first few weeks with regards to Bio and Chem, would anyone be able to tell me?

Bajingo

celtic723 wrote: »

What will we be covering in the first few weeks with regards to Bio and Chem, would anyone be able to tell me?

Bio-Basically getting used to some of the equipment and then I think protein purification.

Chem-Titrations and stuff not much more difficult then LC.

Worry about the lecture material rather than lab work..although theres no need to worry about much at all...

celtic723

Bajingo wrote: »

Bio-Basically getting used to some of the equipment and then I think protein purification.

Chem-Titrations and stuff not much more difficult then LC.

Worry about the lecture material rather than lab work..although theres no need to worry about much at all...

cheers for the heads up mate. Greatly appreciated.

Lookin' forward to this now!

Sugarglass

Just a quick question, everyone keeps saying not to buy textbooks etc, but if you have a bit of money and you'd like to buy textbooks for this course, are there any people would recommend (In particularly for biology, maths and chemistry).

Alexl

Sugarglass wrote: »

Just a quick question, everyone keeps saying not to buy textbooks etc, but if you have a bit of money and you'd like to buy textbooks for this course, is there any people would recommend (In particularly for biology, maths and chemistry).

and physics please

KiLLeR CoUCh

You don't need lab coats for physics. It makes it very easy to spot the people who do physics in Chemistry labs, as they're the ones with the shiney white lab coats that are barely used. It was mid second year by the time mine looked like your typical filthy lab coat =P or maybe I'm just very careful.

Don't go rushing out to buy books, it's not worth your time at the moment, a text book for physics people will be bought for you in first year regardless. I never used it anyway but it's nice to have. Lecturers will mention books, have a gander at them in the library before you buy. They're expensive and not worth the money if you'll only open them once or twice. I have a big pile of first year books on my shelf I never used, but I picked up second hand older additions pretty cheaply. I think if I'd have coughed up the full amount I'd be pretty pissed at myself right now.

Alexl

KiLLeR CoUCh wrote: »

I have a big pile of first year books on my shelf I never used, but I picked up second hand older additions pretty cheaply. I think if I'd have coughed up the full amount I'd be pretty pissed at myself right now.

You selling??

Bajingo

KiLLeR CoUCh wrote: »

You don't need lab coats for physics. It makes it very easy to spot the people who do physics in Chemistry labs, as they're the ones with the shiney white lab coats that are barely used. It was mid second year by the time mine looked like your typical filthy lab coat =P or maybe I'm just very careful.

Don't go rushing out to buy books, it's not worth your time at the moment, a text book for physics people will be bought for you in first year regardless. I never used it anyway but it's nice to have. Lecturers will mention books, have a gander at them in the library before you buy. They're expensive and not worth the money if you'll only open them once or twice. I have a big pile of first year books on my shelf I never used, but I picked up second hand older additions pretty cheaply. I think if I'd have coughed up the full amount I'd be pretty pissed at myself right now.

Ye if you have your heart set on buying books wait until you're told about the recommended textds and check them out first and its better if ya can get them secind hand.

Aww I got my lab coat washed a few times but I had some cool designs on it that I didnt want looking dirty ya know:P

Jammyc

And whats the story with buying old versions of books? Its not entirely detremental is it?

Bajingo

Jammyc wrote: »

And whats the story with buying old versions of books? Its not entirely detremental is it?

Its frowned apon...

Make sure they're not too out of date although they would be it's usually just a different layout..ask your lecturer if its ok first..I mean people were using 5th and 6th edition books when the new ones were 9th..so it's not a big deal..the lecturers are'nt buying new ones every year.

KiLLeR CoUCh

There's no point in buying from me :P the books I have are getting laughably old right now. If you're feeling that nervy about it but still want to get cheap books try to pick up ones that are no more than one or two editions behind the most recent.

Bajingo wrote: »

Its frowned apon...

Make sure they're not too out of date although they would be it's usually just a different layout..ask your lecturer if its ok first..I mean people were using 5th and 6th edition books when the new ones were 9th..so it's not a big deal..the lecturers are'nt buying new ones every year.

I'd disagree that it's frowned upon. The layouts and content don't exactly get a massive overhaul every year. I ran into problems once where I lecturer insisted on taking tutorial questions from the book and the edition I had was missing certain sections and had questions in a different order. I just photocopied missing bits from the library's book or from somebody elses. Yes it was an extra hassle but hardly the end of the world, and that was only with one lecture for a couple of weeks in the year.

Bajingo

KiLLeR CoUCh wrote: »

There's no point in buying from me :P the books I have are getting laughably old right now. If you're feeling that nervy about it but still want to get cheap books try to pick up ones that are no more than one or two editions behind the most recent.



I'd disagree that it's frowned upon. The layouts and content don't exactly get a massive overhaul every year. I ran into problems once where I lecturer insisted on taking tutorial questions from the book and the edition I had was missing certain sections and had questions in a different order. I just photocopied missing bits from the library's book or from somebody elses. Yes it was an extra hassle but hardly the end of the world, and that was only with one lecture for a couple of weeks in the year.

I was totally joking no one is going to care what edition or hand you buy your books in..im buying second hand this year if I buy at all.

KiLLeR CoUCh

My bad... Sarcasm detector must be broken :pac:

vladglenin

KiLLeR CoUCh wrote: »

My bad... Sarcasm detector must be broken :pac:

I think there's a new edition of it out

Sugarglass

How many Chemistry labs are there per week in first year? I'd thought there was only one but on the timetable there are 5 or something. Do we choose one or are you assigned one. Is there anyway you can change it if it doesn't suit you?

cf_al_bs

Sugarglass wrote: »

How many Chemistry labs are there per week in first year? I'd thought there was only one but on the timetable there are 5 or something. Do we choose one or are you assigned one. Is there anyway you can change it if it doesn't suit you?

You have one 3hour lab in Chem per week. You're assigned one of those 5 slots that fits into your timetable of lectures. You can request to move and in most cases it's fine.

Sugarglass

What's the deal with the new structure for the Senior Freshman year of the science course. Now there's only one Biology course and you can only do 5 out of 10 modules. Id intended to do Biology, Maths and Chemistry in first year and then drop the Maths in second year and focus mainly on Biology (my favourite) and Chemistry. Now I have to continue Maths and can't do as much Biology as I wanted :mad:.

Anyone else annoyed or have any thoughts on this ?

http://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergraduate/az/course.php?id=82

Craguls

Hey sugarglass I'm in the same boat as yourself even subject wise!

I think you can pick as many as you like but each one is 5 credits each so I'm planning on doing 8 with the two chem's and dropping maths.
This way it's like bio1 and bio2 from the old system but a little bit more flexible

It suits me fine actually, I'm gonna ditch ecology and bioresources since I want either neuroscience or molecular medicine

Sugarglass

Craguls wrote: »

Hey sugarglass I'm in the same boat as yourself even subject wise!

I think you can pick as many as you like but each one is 5 credits each so I'm planning on doing 8 with the two chem's and dropping maths.
This way it's like bio1 and bio2 from the old system but a little bit more flexible

It suits me fine actually, I'm gonna ditch ecology and bioresources since I want either neuroscience or molecular medicine

Are you sure you can do that, the impression I got from the prospectus is that you had to do 3 different subjects. I'd love to just do chem and biology I just wasn't sure if this was possible.

GlasnevinRed

Craguls wrote: »

Hey sugarglass I'm in the same boat as yourself even subject wise!

I think you can pick as many as you like but each one is 5 credits each so I'm planning on doing 8 with the two chem's and dropping maths.

I'm starting SF now and this is what I'm doing so you'll be grand.

Craguls

Sugarglass wrote: »

Are you sure you can do that, the impression I got from the prospectus is that you had to do 3 different subjects. I'd love to just do chem and biology I just wasn't sure if this was possible.

GlasnevinRed wrote: »

I'm starting SF now and this is what I'm doing so you'll be grand.

Cheers Glasnevin Red, it seems the new system is designed to be more flexible.

In the past say if someone wanted neuroscience they'd have to take biology 1 and biology 2 which used up 40 of their credits and limited their options alot. The new way takes the BESS approach of letting you keep as many or as few options open for as long as you like.
It kinda removes a degree of responsibility from the faculty by saying it's your call do what you like

Sugarglass

Yeah I've just found the thing in the college calendar about doing 8 out of the ten modules. Now I can calm down. I was completely freaking out :eek: for a second. Thanks very much for the help .

celtic723

How can you do eight of the ten modules when it clearly states that you have to do certain things such as maths and maths methods in order to pursue the Neuroscience path and the like.

I'm sure all will become clear tomorrow.My plan is to forget about it as i'm already dreading going in as it is.

Sugarglass

You have to do either Maths or Maths Methods in first year but you can drop it after that.

celtic723

Sugarglass wrote: »

You have to do either Maths or Maths Methods in first year but you can drop it after that.

For someone who only got a B1 in Ordinary Level maths, which is the easiest option as i despise maths!

Jammyc

Wait, is any of this 8/10 modules stuff relevant for tomorrow??
I thought it was just Bio, Chem, Phys, Maths, Maths Methods, Geology, Geog. with no options in each?

Sugarglass

Jammyc wrote: »

Wait, is any of this 8/10 modules stuff relevant for tomorrow??
I thought it was just Bio, Chem, Phys, Maths, Maths Methods, Geology, Geog. with no options in each?

Yeah the 8/10 thing is for the senior freshman year, sorry if I freaked anybody out, I was just wondering about the SF choices as it may have affected my choices for first year. Everybody calm down :P.

amacachi

Wasn't at the meeting thing today, did I miss anything interesting?

Bajingo

amacachi wrote: »

Wasn't at the meeting thing today, did I miss anything interesting?

Just curious what was the meeting for?

amacachi

"Course meeting". Not a clue what it was about.

Bajingo

amacachi wrote: »

"Course meeting". Not a clue what it was about.

I missed all my fresher week meetings last year..ya shud be ok but if you can find out what ya missed and dont miss your mentor meeting what ever ya do!

Not much help sorry.

amacachi

Bajingo wrote: »

I missed all my fresher week meetings last year..ya shud be ok but if you can find out what ya missed and dont miss your mentor meeting what ever ya do!

Not much help sorry.

I think I might've already missed the mentor meeting. :P

Jammyc

Ehh, we picked what classes we're doing and were given a document without which we cant register. Also filled in a health and safety form. Im fairly sure it was a mandatory meeting.

Bajingo

Jammyc wrote: »

Ehh, we picked what classes we're doing and were given a document without which we cant register. Also filled in a health and safety form. Im fairly sure it was a mandatory meeting.

Oh that meeting...ye you actually did need to go to that meeting you should go to your tutor about it it's really important..and no ya didnt miss the mentoring that's on wednesday.

amacachi

I also lost the letter we got with what times we should try to meet the tutor at, anyone got the times handy? Might not be the same tutor for everyone, think mine is something Hennessey.

Off to a good start so far then. :P

celtic723

Glad i ran into about 8 people from my school otherwise today would have been horrible.

You didn't miss much by avoiding the course meeting, although we got a good laugh from the chemistry lecturer.:pac::pac::pac: What a ledge!

Also the pink form! DO NOT LOSE THIS PINK FORM. IF YOU DO YOU DIE!!:o

I've picked Biology 1 & 2, Chemistry 1 & 2, Foundation Physics, Maths Methods. Anyone else the same?:)

amacachi

celtic723 wrote: »

Glad i ran into about 8 people from my school otherwise today would have been horrible.

You didn't miss much by avoiding the course meeting, although we got a good laugh from the chemistry lecturer.:pac::pac::pac: What a ledge!

Also the pink form! DO NOT LOSE THIS PINK FORM. IF YOU DO YOU DIE!!:o

I've picked Biology 1 & 2, Chemistry 1 & 2, Foundation Physics, Maths Methods. Anyone else the same?:)

I'll be doing Biology and Maths Methods I'd say, haven't really made up my mind past that. Could easily do full maths but I'd like to give myself the extra option as well as do the easier maths course. :P

celtic723

amacachi wrote: »

I'll be doing Biology and Maths Methods I'd say, haven't really made up my mind past that. Could easily do full maths but I'd like to give myself the extra option as well as do the easier maths course. :P

If you're capable of doing the maths then do it. You might as well as then that makes up 20 credits.

If you do Maths Methods you're gonna have to do another module in order to get up to the 20 credit equivalent.

What other module were you looking at? Chemistry?:D

amacachi

celtic723 wrote: »

If you're capable of doing the maths then do it. You might as well as then that makes up 20 credits.

If you do Maths Methods you're gonna have to do another module in order to get up to the 20 credit equivalent.

What other module were you looking at? Chemistry?:D

Aye but I'd like to leave more options open, maybe either Geology or Geography.

Won't be doing Chemistry, 5 years since the JC and haven't done chemistry since, so **** that. :P

celtic723

amacachi wrote: »

Aye but I'd like to leave more options open, maybe either Geology or Geography.

Won't be doing Chemistry, 5 years since the JC and haven't done chemistry since, so **** that. :P

:pac::pac::pac: better stick to the rocks then! Although Chemistry is hard if you don't want to do you're better off steering well clear.

You not out tonight for that traffic light ****e?

GirlatdRockShow

aw damn,i missed the course meeting?!Just found out i have to repeat first year:(,so i probably should have gone to that,start this year off on a good note. What's going on later in the week for us scientists??

amacachi

celtic723 wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac: better stick to the rocks then! Although Chemistry is hard if you don't want to do you're better off steering well clear.

You not out tonight for that traffic light ****e?

Nah, I live 50 miles away like. :P Have a mate I could stay over with but I don't want to be doing that on the very first night. There's a logical reason in my mind and it makes sense to me. :P Probably just head out Thursday, glowsticks and facepaint sound very appealing depending on circumstances.

GlasnevinRed

celtic723 wrote: »

I've picked Biology 1 & 2, Chemistry 1 & 2, Foundation Physics, Maths Methods. Anyone else the same?

Did that last year myself. Grand enough if you don't let the work build up like I did.

celtic723 wrote: »

although we got a good laugh from the chemistry lecturer.:pac::pac::pac: What a ledge!

Sylvia Draper was it?? She gave the talk last year and was hilarious. Used chocolate to get her point across.:D

Only had her for about 2 weeks of lectures though.:pac:

celtic723

amacachi wrote: »

Nah, I live 50 miles away like. :P Have a mate I could stay over with but I don't want to be doing that on the very first night. There's a logical reason in my mind and it makes sense to me. :P Probably just head out Thursday, glowsticks and facepaint sound very appealing depending on circumstances.

Ahh right!! doubt we're missing much tbh. A few ****faced people trying their best to make friends with as many people as possible.

The way i see it is the people you make friends with during Freshers are those you'll probably never see again. There's 350 people in our Science Course, i'm sure there's a few friends in there :pac::pac::pac:

celtic723

GlasnevinRed wrote: »

Did that last year myself. Grand enough if you don't let the work build up like I did.

Ye i'll make sure it doesn't build up! What's Foundation Physics like and also what's Math Methods like?

Sylvia Draper was it?? She gave the talk last year and was hilarious. Used chocolate to get her point across.:D

Only had her for about 2 weeks of lectures though.:pac:

Aye that's her! Be great if she was my lecturer coz she's hilarious. I was wondering what she was doing with the celebration box but i soon copped it as she made it very clear.:pac::pac:

Genius i have to say.