Getting a deposit back on a puppy???

whos who

Hi All,

I recently put a deposit of €200 on a samoyed puppy but now I'm having second thoughts about the breeder. First off she wants to give me the pup when he's just over 6 weeks old which kinda worries me after doing research(I know I should have researched more before putting down a deposit she just seemed genuine) Also the bitch of the dog has been bred 3 times and is just 3 and a half years old.

Basically I want to know can I get my money back? she wrote down how much I paid in a book but I got no receipt for this payment.

Any help would really be appreciated:o

teacherspet

A deposit is a deposit, non refundable. You have to decide whether to take a pup or forget about your E200

star-pants

Well as teachers pet said, it is a deposit, usually non refundable, and as you've no receipt etc for it?
You could say though that you don't want to take the puppy until it's at least 8-9 weeks old and see what she says?

useful_contacts

can i ask why are you having doubts?(besides the reasons you stated)

i got my kitten at 6 weeks (i know cats and dogs are diff) . anyway i weaned him and he is now 16 weeks.. happy and healthy and giving me heart attacks with his antics:D

Dogs are prob diff, but hun if the doubts are just "you dont think you can care for him" then thats kinda your fault. Why would you put down 200e if you have doubts.

My kitten cost nothing... we adopted him... my sisters cat had kittens and rejected 2 of them(one was the 1 i took- another sis took the other one) but i wouldnt give him back for a million quid. I seriously wouldnt. My fella loves him, and so do i.

when i took my kitten on the 1st week id major doubts.. because i was scared that i couldnt take care of him or give him prop care.... but hes fed watered, has all his shots, insured, microchipped, gonna be netured soon. We can take care of him. we have been. hes a member of our family. anytime he needs anything we pay for it.

if this is a money thing you have doubts over dont worry. we are as broke as the day is long. but we live on 20e shopping just to save for his vet bills(insurance wont cover shots and being fixed) but its worth every cent

sorry v long winded but its 4am and im tired:) just trying to give my experience

MoonDancer256

useful_contacts wrote: »

i got my kitten at 6 weeks...My kitten cost nothing... we adopted him... my sisters cat had kittens and rejected 2 of them

There's nothing wrong with getting a kitten at 6 weeks in this situation; similarly I have fostered kittens from 5 weeks+. The idea is that if you are buying a pedigree puppy from a responsible breeder, the puppy should be 8 weeks before being released; the breeder of my puppy was even willing to hang onto her until 9 weeks because I wanted her to stay with her mother for an extra while.

The pup is barely weaned at 6 weeks, and needs those extra 2 weeks for socialisation and behavioural reasons. Puppies don't have adult brain patterns until over 7 weeks, and seperating a puppy too early can lead to insecurity, which becomes fear, and aggression, and that's just one of the problems. Puppies that young require a huge amount of work and should only be taken if the mother has rejected them or in a similar situation.

Honestly I would cut your losses, forget the deposit and find a more reliable breeder. This is an expensive puppy and a long term commitment, and I certainly wouldn't be happy with a breeder like that. It sounds like they're in it for the money, churning out a large number of litters from one young bitch, and kicking the pups out as soon as possible without regard to their health and wellbeing.

votejohn

id say ring her or call, and be really apologetic but say your landlord freaked out and wont let you have a dog in the property, but say since her pups are so cute im sure she wont have a problem reselling the pup. tell her your moving when your lease is up, so could she let you know when she has her next litter, say your thinking of getting two pups when you get your next house...... this might convince her to give you the deposit back... two sales coming etc.


then, isnt it true that if your breeding dogs the bitch can only have two litters? if so id say report her to the correct authorities, that lady clearly is looking at the dogs as money, and not looking out for their welfare!

jen_23

votejohn wrote: »

then, isnt it true that if your breeding dogs the bitch can only have two litters? if so id say report her to the correct authorities, that lady clearly is looking at the dogs as money, and not looking out for their welfare!

I'm not entirely sure but I think most breeders wouldn't breed from their bitch more than 3 times unless there are exceptional circumstances (feel free to correct me anyone).

When breeding a bitch she should be a minimum of over 2 years of age (especially in breeds with hip dysplasia so relevant tests can be carried out and they can be certified as clear) and then bred only every other year.
The more often a bitch is bred the chances increase that she will produce weaker puppies more likely to die and the pregnancys can be quite harsh on her too.

messygirl

hiya

say you want to register the puppy, if she is over breeding then registering it wil be reducing that amount of registered breeds her bitch can produce. and that you wouldnt accept an unregistered

also did she tell you when you put the deposit that you would be taking her at 6 and a half weeks? tell her you feel it isnt right to take the puppy and if she wont keep it for the 2 weeks then tell her you dont feel it is responsible and that research shows...etc and if she cant accept it then you cant ethically take the pup

i would say your best bet is to make her keep the pup until it is 9 and a half weeks and then get the pup registered, or else forget about your deposit. you dont have a receipt and it is a deposit to stop people booking puppies and walking away. i know you have a valid reason but you committed yourself to buying so there is no real reason you cant take the pup.

you might be saving money in walking from a pup whose breeder has had no regard for health of the mother what with vet bills later on in life.

Also when you are collecting ask her to sign a cert/contract stating you can return the pup if it doesnt meet standards of health test from vet, and is returnable for a year (obviously you would be too attached but it might scare her into backing out)

best of luck! sorry for your predicament

whos who

Heya, thanks for the replies.
Firstly I am well aware of the costs of a puppy and the time that it will need that is not the reason I was having second thoughts its mainly the breeder I was a bit worried over. Its mainly just the age that is getting to me. The breeder said they would be ready at over 6 weeks old but I think I'll ask her will she keep him longer and see what she says:)