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Question about reflections in my new 35mm prime

  • 16-08-2009 10:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭


    I recently got a 35mm AF-S DX lens for my D40 and I went out last night for a few mins to try some nighttime photos.

    However I noticed that I had reflections in most of the photos, always above a light source. I have no idea why this is happening, can anyone illuminate me?

    3825993340_10fda236c0.jpg
    10 seconds at f/1.8,ISO200

    3825191843_ea43faeabe.jpg
    1 second at f/1.8, ISO 200

    3825191783_f1af409a00.jpg
    1/8 second at f/1.8, ISO1250


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,406 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Was there any filter on the camera? If so I'd say it was that, definitely looks like its from a flat surface of glass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Remove UV filter ;)

    edit: or call the X-Files people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I did have a UV filter on - good to know it's something that simple.

    But why are there reflections at night, and not during the day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    dudara wrote: »
    I did have a UV filter on - good to know it's something that simple.

    But why are there reflections at night, and not during the day?

    UV filter !!! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    not that much UV rays emitted by the sun at night !!! (just hope I'm not making an ass of myself but pretty confident that UV light comes from the sun)

    Anyway - guessing problem solved.

    EDIT: you should try to open the aperture (F-stop) when shooting at night and use a tripod - that way you get a better exposed image.

    try F8, F11 and use timer/remote to take pics.....can also be used to get nice light trails from passing traffic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    It never occurred to me that there would be less UV at night - but when you think about it, without a moon to reflect sunlight and in street lighting, there's not going to be a lot of UV.

    Just found this discussion over on Flickr.

    I suppose I tend to think of the UV filter as just a piece of protective glass for the lens. So far, I've not thought too hard about the effect that it has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,406 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    dudara wrote: »
    I did have a UV filter on - good to know it's something that simple.

    But why are there reflections at night, and not during the day?

    lens flare from light sources, if you had the sun or other source in shot during day you'd probably get the same I think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    dudara wrote: »
    It never occurred to me that there would be less UV at night

    It's like wearing sunglasses at night! Your cameras finding it hard to see through


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    EDIT: you should try to open the aperture (F-stop) when shooting at night and use a tripod - that way you get a better exposed image.
    I think all the shots above are at f/1.8 but it's my first time using this lens at night, so I need to familiarise myself with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭denat


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    EDIT: you should try to open the aperture (F-stop) when shooting at night and use a tripod - that way you get a better exposed image.

    try F8, F11 and use timer/remote to take pics.....can also be used to get nice light trails from passing traffic.

    I'm very much a beginner and have been trying to get my head around f numbers - but I thought the lower the number the wider the aperture. So f1.8 would be wider than f8?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    You're right - the smaller the f number, the wider the aperture is. So f/1.8 is wider (and letting in more light) than f/8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Tallon wrote: »
    It's like wearing sunglasses at night! Your cameras finding it hard to see through

    Not quite :P - I think you're referring to polarising light - which is what sunglasses do when darkening the image (halving the light transference)...and what circular polariser filters do on a camera lens.

    UV filters generally do not darken the image whereas a polariser at maximum strength halves the light levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Thirdfox wrote: »
    Not quite :P - I think you're referring to polarising light - which is what sunglasses do when darkening the image (halving the light transference)...and what circular polariser filters do on a camera lens.

    UV filters generally do not darken the image whereas a polariser at maximum strength halves the light levels.

    Yes and No. Polaroid sunglasses reduce light intensity by polarising the light - essentially removing any light that is not in the plane of polarisation. They are particularly good for reducing glare. Other types of sunglasses that remove UV light do so by blocking (or reducing) light that has a UV frequency/wavelength usually by means of coatings and thin films on the lens.

    The effect is roughly the same to the eye, but the physical mechanism is quite different.

    Good info here from posters - thanks everyone for your responses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Yes - but I was making the point that UV coatings/reduction does not affect light transference levels to any perceptible level. The darkening is a result of polarisation not UV filtering - hence UV filters do not darken the image that a camera "sees".

    The only reason why UV filters are needed in the case of non polarised sunglasses is that the darkened plastic/glass of normal glasses only reduce visible light levels and does not block potentially harmful UV light as your retina expands to accommodate for the lower intensity of visible light you are receiving.


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