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Samsung Jet
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Just hold down the 'Back Button' (the Diamond / 3D Cube) and it will show you all open Apps in 3D format or just as a Grid (whichever you choose).
Ah yeah, thats pretty good. Cheers for that. There's another good point
I'm still getting used to it after having Nokia's for the last 10 yrs!!0 -
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I bought the Samsung Jet on bill pay from O2 yesterday. I previously had a Sony Ericsson K610i (Vodafone). I also have an iPod Touch.
Things I like- Feels great. Narrower than the iPhone so feels easier to hold, especially in landscape mode
- The photo and video quality is excellent for an cameraphone
- Connectivity options. Wi-fi is more useful than I realised. Wi-fi and bluetooth connection screens are easy to use
- Flash runs in the browser
- FM radio is nice
- Screen display quality is excellent - far superior to the iPod Touch, for example
- 'Find Music' which identifies any music clip from a ten second sample is great fun
Things I hate- Most of the widgets are useless. The 'myspace' and 'facebook' widgets are just links that open in the web browser
- Widgets take up a lot of screen space, and are too easy to move around by brushing against them accidentally resulting in a widget-mess....
- The Dolfin web browser is clunky - Entering URLs or typing in text fields is awkward (I use the landscape qwerty keyboard)
- No GPS application! - The closest it comes to usable GPS software is Google Maps
- GPS software is available (Route 66) but costs €69 (iirc)
- GPS sometimes takes a good few minutes to get a satellite lock
- Why do O2 preinstall such useless widgets? - a link to myhome.ie and an Irish language dictionary?
- Can't figure out how to delete widgets entirely (I can hide them, but not uninstall them)
- Included leather case is useless. A bit tight to fit the phone, but also you can't see the screen.
- When scrolling the contacts list, it's too easy to accidentally start dialling someone
- O2 seem to have de-installed all the games
Deal killers- No 'Communities' menu option - On my old phone I was able to upload photos directly to Blogger, the absence of the 'Communities' setting means I can't do this
- No decent browser - Tried installing Opera Mini, but it doesn't switch to landscape mode (I'm comparing the browser to the iPhone browser which I've found very easy to use)
- Email app is very basic (Again, comparing to the iPhone email app which I've used for gmail, and is responsive and easy to use)
- Java apps run in a weird mode. The fonts look blurred and there are arrows and option buttons taking up a section at the bottom of the screen for any java apps
- No decent Twitter app
- When I'm typing in landscape mode, along the left hand edge of the screen (underneath the 'samsung' word) feels as if the screen coating is lifting off or something, there a 'sticky' sound when I move my finger along that edge
- Nothing to do with the phone, but I was getting 4-5 bars reception from my house with Vodaphone, and now I'm down to 0-1 bars with O2
The thing that's really irritating me at the moment is the inability to post photos directly to Blogger - I'm sure the 'Communities' option will give me this.
Question: If I do a flash upgrade, will the phone default to the Samsung menu options? Or will it still retain the O2-defined menus?
(Why do the operators deactivate/deinstall some of the nicest features on these phones? :mad: )
ETA: Found out Vodafone have the 'communities' setting on the Jet, as well as an easy way to setup gmail instead of going through all the config screens.0 -
Connectivity options. Wi-fi is more useful than I realised. Wi-fi and bluetooth connection screens are easy to use.
Just out of interest - what do use Wifi for? I have no use for it as I can see - are there any free hotspots around Dublin anymore?'Find Music' which identifies any music clip from a ten second sample is great fun
Haven't used that function but like the FM Recording quality and seems to be no time limit on length.
I would have liked the ability to change the radio station on either the headset or the volume rocker on the side of the phone as don't like having to take the phone out to change station etcMost of the widgets are useless. The 'myspace' and 'facebook' widgets are just links that open in the web browser
Widgets take up a lot of screen space, and are too easy to move around by brushing against them accidentally resulting in a widget-mess.....
Excatly. Just as the Ultra Touch is. Widgets have a mind of their own. I ignore them and use Smart Unlock all the time. It doesn't say alot for the phone when it's quicker to lock the phone and scrawl a letter on the touchscreen than use the widgets themselves.The Dolfin web browser is clunky - Entering URLs or typing in text fields is awkward (I use the landscape qwerty keyboard).
Yeah, Browser is junk. I like the zoom feature but if they had of made the Diamond / Cube a D Pad then it would have made browsing a breeze. You'd need fingers like matchsticks to browse with any kind of speed or comfort.Why do O2 preinstall such useless widgets? - a link to myhome.ie and an Irish language dictionary?
O2 seem to have de-installed all the games
Don't be too hard on O2 as the Vodafone set up is the same. No Games and the Irish Dictionary comes with the Vodafone model also.Deal killer
No 'Communities' menu option - On my old phone I was able to upload photos directly to Blogger, the absence of the 'Communities' setting means I can't do this
On the Vodafone model there is a 'Communities' menu option which looks the very same as the Browser Icon on the second menu page.[*]No decent browser - Tried installing Opera Mini, but it doesn't switch to landscape mode (I'm comparing the browser to the iPhone browser which I've found very easy to use)
I have download some older Opera jars which work in landscape but to be honest I wouldn't bother as they don't work to well at all - maybe you could fair better I just got frustrated with it.When I'm typing in landscape mode, along the left hand edge of the screen (underneath the 'samsung' word) feels as if the screen coating is lifting off or something, there a 'sticky' sound when I move my finger along that edge
Yup, noticed this too and it's not on that Samsung released this without addressing this problem. It's obviousily that the film that that covers the ear peice and light sensor as been sabishily designed and a corner was cut no doubt about it.
NB .. just noticed the end of your post re:Vodafone 'Communities' ..
I have arranged for my phone to be collected by 20:20 (Vodafone) anyway due to the LCD internal leakage.0 -
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I've spent a few more hours with the phone and the more I play with it the more I like it. The screen is still amazing, .
I'm jealous as my screen is totally busted now. The LCD is leaking all over the inside - just my luck.I got a link to the s/w download,.
Is there a special link for the free download? I just went to the 66.com website and downloaded the programme but like yourself, it wouldn't recongnise my phone. Post any updates on your install as it might help me get it set up and I'm dying to use it in the carI'm not sure if it's free, as it keeps prompting me to visit the store to buy the maps I need.,.
I only got as far is it saying it couldn't find my phone.I use the wi-fi mainly at home to save on 3G costs.
Guess I'd need a wireless router for that
Would have liked if you could stream the radio via Bluetooth as well as MP3s etc as I have a Bluetooth stereo headset.0 -
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This link is for the Jet only. It is a special version for that phone.
http://www.66.com/samsung/index.php?cid=UK&act=2&cat=2&scat=1
The reason for the error Nico22 is getting is that the standard version does not work with the Jet.?
Cheers for that. I'll it tonight ..It appears to use only the memory card to store and takes up a fair amount with the 3 maps I have. So you may need to get a good size mem card
Damn .. only have an old 1GB card that I had spares from an old G600 I had. So guess that won't do?Bluetooth stereo headset, now I'd like that - does Radio not stream with A2DP?
No, well unless I am doing something wrong
Don't have a Bluetooth headset it's just that I use bluetooth in the house a lot as I have a bluetooth Soundblade speaker in the bathroom (in a waterproof sleeve) and also one in the kitchen so that I can just stream music to them as and when I need to. If I set the phone to auto answer I can actually answer calls from the shower
Last night with the Jet I was watching streaming YouTube vids in bed while the sound was piped to a Soundblade beside me. Tying to balance the phone on a book at such an angle that it wouldn't trigger the phone to switch back from the Landscape view I was enjoying. Did I mention I'm single 0 -
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Hey Nico22, your bluetooth setup sounds sweet, (pardon the pun)
The sound quality is great even though the Soundblade is only a cheap bluetooth speaker. There are better ones outthere ..
In my car I only have a Sony Cassette / FM Radio system with CD Changer in the boot and here's the way I use the phone in the car.
I have one of these Cassette Adapters:
I just put this end here into the headphone jack on the Samsung earphones lead, not the phone itself. Then just wear the earphone lead as normal - clipped to your collar or whereever.
Now you can listen to your MP3's or even the phone's radio through your car stereo speakers and if a call comes in the music will stop and you'll hear the caller through your stereo system also. You use the mic on your collar for them to hear you
If your car stereo has 'line-in' or 'aux'in' 3.5 jack then that's eve better as you can just use a simple 3.5 to 3.5 'line in' lead.
I have a profile set up called 'In Car' that I switch to so it auto answers after so many rings. Handy to have different ringtones for different callers also if you use your phone in the car alot.
Last night I went to the cinema and as the movie was boring the bajasus out of me and starting using the 'Find Music' feature and it blew me away
Part of the movie was on a beach with some background music and after seven seconds it told me it was 'Werewolf - Cat Power' .. very cool, crazy that it can do that so fast
A download option would be cool if you then wanted to buy the song. It even downloads a photo of the Album cover with the song.0 -
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I installed it fine and downloaded the map okay but it just says Getting Position for hours as it hovers over Moscow
First, make sure you've done;
Settings / Phone Settings / GPS Settings / GPS+Settings / Download Data
Also from that screen you can see how many satellites you're locking on to.
Finally... Go outside! - Or at the very least stick the handset out the window. It just doesn't work indoors.0 -
Finally... Go outside! - Or at the very least stick the handset out the window. It just doesn't work indoors.
I'll have you know that I was outside .. the cheek of ya
Good man Tony anyway .. got it going now. I hadn't done the Download Data thing .. must have missed that somewhere along the line .. cheers mate, buy you a few pints.
Well, when DJVext buys me mine first that is
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Well, I'm just waiting for someone else to flash theirs first before I do anything... ;-)
tbh, I'm quite happy with the setup now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I did have a funny glitch yesterday, I was recording video in high quality, about 3 minutes worth. When I played it back the audio went all weird about a minute into it... as if the phone signal interfered with the audio recording or something. I tried to replicate a few times, but it was fine.
I suppose when you have gps, phone, internet, wi-fi, music, camera, and video all in one device you're bound to have bugs. I mean, Windows has been around for 20 years and it's still not right. 0 -
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Well, I love it. And if the sales figures are anything to go by (look how many Toccos Samsung have sold, very similar phone, slightly lower spec) then the 'general' opinion is good.GeneticDeviant wrote: »so whats the general opinion of this phone then?
honestly?
It really depends what you want to use it for. If you're looking for something where you can install loads of different apps and widgets then you should look for a Symbian based phone (or possibly Android, when that becomes more widely available)
It's essentially a high-end feature phone, not a smartphone (by the strictest definition of the word) - It runs a proprietary Samsung OS with the TouchWiz interface. So, if you're happy working with (or around) the apps it comes installed with, then great. Outside of that, you're stuck with Java apps, which tend to be a bit clunky as they're not native.
I was looking for a phone that would do email and some surfing, and a decent camera was a bonus. This phone delivered these things. In fact, I'm now very happy with using it for texting as well (I never used to like texting) mainly because I find the touch screen so easy and quick to use.
And the quality of the display is great. It's so bright and vibrant that it makes the iPhone look washed out.
However, I am expecting to encounter bugs, glitches or irritations, as this is a new gadget on the market, and I tend to dig into menus and settings, and push every app until it's screaming for mercy... But I have fun doing it, and finding out the limits of the phone.
Finally, I spent quite a while in phone shop picking up and trying out every phone that was out there, to see how it felt in my hand, what the keys were like. It's one thing comparing specs, but if you don't like the 'feel' of the phone...
So.. it depends what you're looking for. (Ask on a Nokia thread and get a different answer)0 -
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Incidentally nico, according to this link on the Samsung UK site you can upgrade the phone software very easily using the PC Studio software.
http://www.samsungmobile.co.uk/supports/softwaremanuals/softwareNpsUpdate.do
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Incidentally nico, according to this link on the Samsung UK site you can upgrade the phone software very easily using the PC Studio software.
http://www.samsungmobile.co.uk/supports/softwaremanuals/softwareNpsUpdate.do
Tempted?
Nope
Well maybe .. you gonna do it? It won't debrand so your warranty should be fine ..0
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