Are you Fattist?

midlandsmissus

I know this is really kind of bad, but it's the truth and I'm going to admit it:

My boyfriend put on loads of weight recently and it just really put me off him. There is nothing attractive about a big fat belly wobbling towards you.

I know it sounds shallow, and you should love someone despite their weight, but you also have a right to be attracted to your partner, shouldn't you?

I keep in shape and so should he. I know it would be so cruel to say 'Ive gone off you because of your weight' but that's the truth. I'm trying to encourage him to do more sport, so we'll see how that goes.

Fat is just not attractive, and its just so lazy. Im sure some people cant help it,but alot of it is caused by laziness.

cufroige

I googled "Eating Disorder / Distress" in order to gather some research and followed a search result link to this page.

I have to say I am shocked at the level of pure ignorance from some of you posters. What a bunch of haters. Nobody can know what is going on in the interior life of a person. You are you to deem yourself worthy of becoming judge & jury?

I am horrified to think that I or somebody I love could be subject to such narrow minded judgement...are you all perfect because you are not fat? What if you're just an arsehole? Do you think that ugly mindset you carry around is acceptable or invisible because you have your body "in check"?

Do you think any obese person is unaware of 1) their condition & 2) how to reverse it? Do you honestly think that information is unknown to anyone with half a brain? I am just so offended.

You have no idea the impact life can have on certain people. Some of these human beings you label "lazy" & "Gluttonous" are surviving things you may be lucky enough never to experience. How dare anybody else hate on them. You know nothing about them.

I have no tolerance for this attitude, not just toward people with "socially unacceptable" appearances but haters in general. Easy to be a hater behind the safety of your keyboard.

And as for the poster who commented on the "FAT KID" with ice cream scenario....you should be ashamed of yourself.

Educate yourselves....don't assume...have a heart for Christs sake!!

http://www.marinotherapycentre.com/sites/default/pdfs/MTC_Research.pdf

Here are some snippets...

Eating Disorders such as Anorexia Nervosa, Bulimia Nervosa, Binge-Eating Disorder and
Eating Disorders Not Otherwise Specified are labels listed in psychiatric manuals
defining a person’s behaviour. Different types very often overlap and even the top
experts agree that it is difficult to make a clear diagnosis. But all of these labels are
only the symptoms of the condition known as Eating Distress (ED).

Eating Distress is a condition where the mind culminates all of the negative
assumptions the person has about him or herself. The negative mind becomes
more powerful than the positive mind and has much more influence on the
person’s thinking, feeling and behaviour. This state of mind develops
subconsciously and the person is not always aware that they are victims of this
negative condition.
Being overweight in our society means being unaccepted and lazy; someone who
doesn’t have will power or self discipline; and a weak individual. We still have a “pull
yourself together” attitude. People are often told to ‘just go on a diet’. This
suggestion is emotionally devastating to a person suffering from Emotional Overeating
in exactly the same way as ‘just eat’ impacts a person suffering from Anorexia.

It is heart-wrenching to listen that being obese causes absolute misery. It ruins
people’s lives, it occupies all their energy and it is a major hazard to emotional well-
being. The message to eat less and exercise more is a typical approach taken in
dealing with the chronically overweight. Little is taken into account of their mental
approach to losing weight and keeping it off. Most sufferers know all the theories
connected with weight loss. They are the best dieters in the world, they just do not
know how to manage their body and their emotional connection. People with weight
problems use their body as an emotional punching bag; as a coping mechanism for life
situations.
FACT
It’s the result of a very complex set of experiences in the supersensitive
person’s life.
MYTH
Sufferers should just pull themselves together.
FACT
They cannot do so without help.

Rev Hellfire

You have to laugh really. Let’s be honest here while there are undoubtedly some individuals for whom their obesity is linked to a real physical or psychological problem; for the vast majority it’s simply laziness plain and simple.

The thing is you’ll always have some people who don’t want to say ‘nasty’ things like the truth to people incase they boo hoo; but the more acceptable its made the worse the situation will become.

There was a time when to be a glutton was a thing to be ashamed of and something you would attempt to rectify; whereas for some now its badge of pride something which makes them just a little bit special; because you see its not them, its this ‘condition’ they have.

If the obese are made are made uncomfortable rather than molly codelled they might be more inclined to do something about it and others would be less inclined to let their weight reach such level in the first place.

Dudess

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I know this is really kind of bad, but it's the truth and I'm going to admit it:

My boyfriend put on loads of weight recently and it just really put me off him. There is nothing attractive about a big fat belly wobbling towards you.

I know it sounds shallow, and you should love someone despite their weight, but you also have a right to be attracted to your partner, shouldn't you?

I keep in shape and so should he. I know it would be so cruel to say 'Ive gone off you because of your weight' but that's the truth. I'm trying to encourage him to do more sport, so we'll see how that goes.

Fat is just not attractive, and its just so lazy. Im sure some people cant help it,but alot of it is caused by laziness.

There is nothing wrong with any of what you say - it's not even fattist.
Thinking overweight people are responsible for their obesity is not fattist either. What's fattist is having nothing to do with a person/bullying them purely because of their weight.

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

You have to laugh really. Let’s be honest here while there are undoubtedly some individuals for whom their obesity is linked to a real physical or psychological problem; for the vast majority it’s simply laziness plain and simple.

The thing is you’ll always have some people who don’t want to say ‘nasty’ things like the truth to people incase they boo hoo; but the more acceptable its made the worse the situation will become.

There was a time when to be a glutton was a thing to be ashamed of and something you would attempt to rectify; whereas for some now its badge of pride something which makes them just a little bit special; because you see its not them, its this ‘condition’ they have.

If the obese are made are made uncomfortable rather than molly codelled they might be more inclined to do something about it and others would be less inclined to let their weight reach such level in the first place.

I love how appealing for an approach which combines both telling it as it is to overweight people, while at the same time being encouraging and sensitive to what might be going on in their heads... is mollycoddling them.
Yelling "get off your arse fatty" is the wrong approach.
"They can't help it, they've emotional issues" is also the wrong approach.
What the "do-gooders" here are advocating is an approach from somewhere in the middle... but of course there'll always be someone who'll skirt over that and just get straight to the "LOL you're so PC" style crap.

seahorse wrote: »

I agreed with some portions of the post I've copied this from, but as for this particular comment, I'm sorry but it is just plain nonsense. The difference between having issues putting down the burgers and putting down the heroin needle is too vast to measure, and making a direct comparison between the two is an absolute joke.

Hey SH, where ya been?!
I agree obesity won't cause the same horror as heroin dependency, of course, but I think the analogy was simply being used for the sake of illustrating: food can be highly, highly addictive. And obesity can make life miserable.

seahorse

Dudess wrote: »

Hey SH, where ya been?!

Oh I float in now and again, it's nice to know I've been missed!

Dudess wrote: »

I agree obesity won't cause the same horror as heroin dependency, of course, but I think the analogy was simply being used for the sake of illustrating: food can be highly, highly addictive. And obesity can make life miserable.

Yes I know food can be addictive Dudess. It has been proven that the sugar and carbohydrate rush from certain foods provides a high to which some people are more susceptible than others. In my experience of life though, people don’t look at the alcoholic downing their twentieth pint at the bar or the junkie begging for change for the next fix and feel any range of emotional response that doesn’t include disgust.

I once worked with a girl who was at least eighteen or nineteen stone, probably heavier, and she was around five foot three. She’d arrive to work a little early in the mornings with several different types of fizzy drinks in 500ml bottles and a wide variety of crisps, sweets and biscuits. These would be drank and eaten before 9.30, when we began work.

At lunchtime she’d head around to the local convenience store and arrive back with half a dozen different types of fat laden pastries like sausage rolls, battered burgers and Cornish pastries. She’d eat them in such a ferocious rush she’d practically throw them down her throat and then she’d wash them down with yet more bottles of fizzy drinks. Sometimes she’d buy spicy chicken wings and when she did she’d chomp her way through them with such rampant enthusiasm that she’d take no notice of the orange grease spreading all over her face.

Now, I’m not a cruel-minded person and I don’t go out of my way to find fault with people, but watching her gorge herself like that was, in a word, disgusting. Come five am she’d heave her enormous arse up onto a bicycle and cycle the five minutes home and I suppose that was designed to minimise the damaging way she was treating her body every day. Needless to say she was wasting her time because she was probably burning about twenty of the thousands of calories she’d consumed before she’d even had her dinner each day. She was morbidly obese but also her hair was continually lank and damp with grease and her skin was a real mess, red and inflamed but also dry and flaking in places and usually she’d have a number of large angry looking spots. The way she treated her body was an awful thing to watch.

Watching people overindulge in anything till the point where it’s clearly killing them is bound to provoke negative feelings. It’s an understandable and natural human response. Treating a person badly because of how badly they’re treating themselves is a whole other issue though, and I think that is the line where natural revulsion and ‘fattism’ exists.

Emme

I'm proud to be a fattist. I was a chubby child and got bullied for it in primary school and secondary school. I lost 2 stone when I was 14 and have battled to keep it off since. When I look back at old photos I was skinny compared to a lot of today's kids but I felt fat at the time and people used to comment all the time "what a big girl!" because I was tall as well.

My dad's side of the family is genetically disposed to be heavy but I never accepted that as an excuse for me to be heavy. My mum's side are athletic types and I "decided" to take after them. I exercise and eat as well as I can and am in good shape today. Fat people annoy me so much - it really bugs me when a fat person is walking down the street really slowly stuffing his or her face and holding everyone else up. And no matter what they wear they look disgusting.

Illness is no excuse either in a lot of cases. I had an undiagnosed underactive thyroid for years and was knackered with it. People usually put on a lot of weight with this. I put on a little weight but still managed to remain just inside the upper end of the healthy BMI range but it nearly killed me! I'm on treatment now and losing the extra weight, getting down to a BMI of around 21 or 22.

There's nothing wrong with being fattist, it could save your life. Being overweight is bad for your health. In France if someone is putting on weight they'll be told they're getting heavy because being overweight is socially unacceptable over there. Unlike here. I notice that once women get to around 35 they seem to think it's inevitable that they will get fat - they give up, let themselves go and give all women over 35 a bad name. Have some pride and stay in shape, there's no excuse for being fat and lazy! And if you're putting on weight and can't lose it no matter what you do have your thyroid checked.

miec

Wow, I am stunned by the ferocity that people have towards fat and obese people. Am I fattist, no way, I don't feel the intense annoyance, hatred or disgust that other posters feel here.

When I see a person who is vastly overweight I can guess that they feel enough self disgust and emotional turmoil without anyone else adding to it. Even a few posters here who were overweight have talked about the hell it has been for them.

What I cannot understand is how a person can go up to 20, 30, 40, or even 50 stone and I have often wondered is more than just greed. I can have my binge days, but I cannot physically eat over a certain amount, and I cannot understand how some people can drink litres of fizzy drinks in a day, or fatty foods, etc. There has to be another reason that some people get so big. Does everybody's stomach expand in the same way? I don't know. I don't know if it is so cut and dried that the more you eat the fatter you get. Also the richer a nation is, the fatter they get, back in the 80s here in Ireland there wasn't as many fat people because there was far fewer take away outlets, people had less money, not as many people had cars and we were poorer. There seems to me a direct link between wealth and rising obesity levels.

I personally believe that no one likes being fat and I do feel there are psychological issues tied up with it. I think some of the attitudes here suck in regards to overweight people, ostracizing or verbally abusing someone because they are fat is cruel but also counter productive because they will most likely use food as a form of emotional support so abusing someone to lose weight will drive them towards food even more.

Emme

miec wrote: »

I personally believe that no one likes being fat and I do feel there are psychological issues tied up with it. I think some of the attitudes here suck in regards to overweight people, ostracizing or verbally abusing someone because they are fat is cruel but also counter productive because they will most likely use food as a form of emotional support so abusing someone to lose weight will drive them towards food even more.

Rubbish! I got bullied in secondary school when I was fat and I didn't run crying into a corner to stuff my face, I got off my backside, stopped eating crap, started taking sport more seriously, lost the weight and won a load of medals for running on sports day - it was a great feeling passing out some of the bullies on the running track!

Inside every fat person there's a load of excuses for the state they're in.

metrovelvet

I didnt think I was. But then I saw a fat kid in the playground and I thought to myself "God I don't know what I would do if my kid were the fat kid in school. "

Emme

metrovelvet wrote: »

I didnt think I was. But then I saw a fat kid in the playground and I thought to myself "God I don't know what I would do if my kid were the fat kid in school. "

I've been the fat kid and it was hell. I developed early in primary school, had boobs when nobody else had them and that wasn't nice. Then I went to a co-ed boarding school where the lads used to spit at me because I was fat and ugly. One of the girls took a photo of me in the shower and circulated it around the lads. Things got really bad after that. There were two choices - eat and get even more hassle or lose the weight. I chose the latter.

If your child is fat take him or her to a doctor or dietician and start an exercise programme. The earlier a child starts a good eating and exercise programme the sooner it becomes habit. BTW, there's no point in imposing that on your child if you don't do it yourself - fat parents are more likely to have fat children.

miec

Rubbish! I got bullied in secondary school when I was fat and I didn't run crying into a corner to stuff my face, I got off my backside, stopped eating crap, started taking sport more seriously, lost the weight and won a load of medals for running on sports day - it was a great feeling passing out some of the bullies on the running track!

Well done on your achievement, however, not everyone is able to do what you did, they cope differently, I should be aware of sweeping statements and say that some people become very determined to lose weight like you and others head straight for the comfort eating. Just because they 'cry in the corner' as you put it does not make them less of a person, their coping strategy is different. Also being proud of being a fattist means you are becoming like those people who bullied you, you are feeding into the hate fat campaign.

WesternNight

Being fattist is about being discriminatory towards people who are overweight. Thinking less of them etc.

You're not fattist if you simply think that being overweight is unhealthy. Because that's a fact. You're only fattist if you look down on overweight people purely because of their weight.

Just to clarify

mkaobrih

[FONT=&quot]I’m a skinny person (under 7 ST) and I couldn’t give a toss if someone is overweight or not. It’s not important. What matters is how they behave and not how they look – for me anyways. Are they kind and considerate or are the rude - to me that’s more important.[/FONT]

Handsome Bob

enry wrote: »

ok i was a fattist. Im sorry its true i'm not happy about it, its just one of those thing that haunt me from my past. However i'm not like that now i love fat people i think there funny as fcuk cant get enough of "the biggest loser"

What happens if they are not "funny as fcuk"? :pac:

so what you opinion on fat people?

Well I'm slightly over weight myself but in a much better position than I once was (was 16 stone, now 12). I have nothing but sympathy for fat people because I understand what it is to be stuck in a rut. You always say "tomorrow I'll start exercising and eating healthily" and allow yourself to over indulge. Next thing you know you're a balloon, and reaching your ideal weight seems like an absolute mountain to climb.

It takes unbelievable mental strength to change your whole lifestyle. You're afraid to join a gym for fear of being sniggered at. You're afraid to go jogging on the streets for fear of being abused by kids. You finish a hard weeks worth of college or work but you can't blow off steam by drinking alcohol or by ordering some takeaway. To top it all off, there are weeks where you just feel you're not getting what you deserve from the effort you're putting in.

It's a really shit and frustrating process, especially if you have to lose a few stone like I did. So as I said, I'd never look down on overweight people because I understand how much it takes to change.

enry

Nulty wrote: »

I dont know you but isn't it ironic that your name happens to be chocolate sauce.

people are fat because they eat more then their body needs. there is no other reason for being fat

WesternNight

enry wrote: »

people are fat because they eat more then their body needs. there is no other reason for being fat

I love when people who think they know everything say stupid things like this.

You're ignoring the question of why people eat more than they need in the first place. Obviously people gain weight because they eat more than their bodies require...but that's not the be all and end all of the problem. There is a lot more to it.

NickNolte

Let he who is without blame case the first stone and all that. While I don't understand people who eat too much junk and don't exercise, I don't have a problem with them. Ironically the one person I know that is constantly saying vicious things about fat people is also the one person I know that gets rat ass drunk every weekend and has made a name for himself as being an utter drunken fool. I'd prefer to be fat than like him to be honest.

shellyboo

MrEko wrote: »

So yes, I am a fattist. I look down on overwight people, I think its all down to laziness and bad habits. You may call that shallow but I sure as hell know I wont be the first or last to judge people on how they look. Thing is, if you look unhealthy, you generally are unhealthy. You have the power to change that though, you just have to choose to.

Since when is being unhealthy a reason to look down on someone? You smokerist or recreational-druggist as well?

Deleted User wrote: »

Unless you're living in an isolated spot, you're going to be exposed to fat people, and that gives people the right to be fatists, if they so feel that way. Just as I have the right to be against racists, sexists, anorexics, ageist's, etc

Equating fat people to racists and sexists? Nice. Do please explain that one to me.

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

If the obese are made are made uncomfortable rather than molly codelled they might be more inclined to do something about it and others would be less inclined to let their weight reach such level in the first place.

Why? Why should I have to do something about it? Because I'm offending your poor eyes with how I look?

I'm utterly utterly utterly sick of this "fat is unhealthy and so that gives me a right to hate fat people" bullshlt. Smokers are unhealthy, thin people are unhealthy, EVERYONE is unhealthy these days.

People hate fat people because of how they look, no more and no less, anyone pretending otherwise is deluding themselves with PC crap.

I know fat is unhealthy. That's why I go for regular blood pressure/health checks. I'm in fine health, much better than many thinner people I know. When MY weight starts to impact MY health, I will do something about it. I have zero idea why this is anyone else's business but my own.

pikachucheeks

I wouldn't say I am, no.

I wouldn't look at someone who was overweight and criticize them or simply think "they've eaten too much".

Being overweight can be for numerous reasons, it's not fair to simply assume the person is greedy or eats too much.

If anything, I'd be inclined to feel bad for them, because I think it's very difficult to be overweight in today's society. There's constant pressure to look a certain way and people look down on you, if you don't conform to that.

Valmont

Zascar wrote: »

Met a girl a few weeks ago who was a fitness instructor and specialised in weight loss. She told me all this Genetic Predisposition stuff is all rubbish, 99.9% is bad diet and not enough exercise.

She sounds like quite a credible authority on genetics.

Handsome Bob

Valmont wrote: »

She sounds like quite a credible authority on genetics.

Well she would say that wouldn't she, she's a fitness instructor, she can't have people thinking they are victims of bad genetics. That's money not going into her pocket!

Danniboo

Hey Zascar - Why don't you ask you're stupid b***h personal trainer to go and get some education, she i obviously in th wrong job. I have a medical condition for which I have to take medication, as do 10% of women. This medication stops my liver burning fat. Before I started taken this I was a size 8. Do you really think you have the right to come on here and make such generalising sweeping statements about something you obviously haven't a clue about. What a jerk.

Danniboo

enry wrote: »

yea, sure the fat people would be eating all the time the smokers would be going out for a smoke all the time. fat people and people who smoke take more sick days as well.

so i thinking it would have a bearing on their employability. also I like to see a good lookin bird at a reception desk when i walk into an office, I think it brightens up the room.

However not for one second am I suggesting that an over weight person would not be a good worker. But being over weight(even if you want to call it a sickness) is not accepted by society. even thought most of us in this country seem to be fat. its mad

Well seen as how you said you are fat then I guess you take a lot of sick days???? But that's okay for you. Whatever about the rest of the idiots on here you have to be the biggest i'm fat and I don't like fat people. It has a bearing on employability:rolleyes:

Rev Hellfire

Clearly there are some people who fail to control their weight due to an underlying medical condition (and I'm not talking about simply having a mouth ).

But it seems to me that these are the exception rather than the rule, the majority are fat because they simply lack self control. And if this is an obese adult thats fine, they make their choices and can live with the consequences.
Children are another story, personally I think questions should be raised about parents when you see an obese child. And yes yes perhaps 1 in every 50 might have a medical condition, but the others don't.

Permabear

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Handsome Bob

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

Clearly there are some people who fail to control their weight due to an underlying medical condition (and I'm not talking about simply having a mouth ).

I really can't stress this enough but it's true. I know two people who have been going to dieticians and nutritionists since child hood and sadly nothing has worked. It's not a case of minor weight excess either, they are actually obese, and they can do nothing about it. It's gotten to the stage where they don't bother mentioning their condition to people because they are only greeted with contempt. It's really saddening.

But it seems to me that these are the exception rather than the rule, the majority are fat because they simply lack self control. And if this is an obese adult thats fine, they make their choices and can live with the consequences.

Will power is certainly something that is needed. The problem though is that in my opinion having the will power is directly related to having a reason or a goal in losing the weight. If we take these weight loss reality TV programmes for example, I believe the will power comes from the desperation not to be humiliated on television (the ironic thing is that either way, they are still being humiliated). That's just an extreme example. In "real life" the will power can some from something as trivial as wanting to fit into your wedding dress or suit. You'd be amazed at how many times I've heard that one!

If people are having a tough time in life and they believe that there is nothing worthwhile going for them, then it's really hard to pluck the will power from somewhere.

Children are another story, personally I think questions should be raised about parents when you see an obese child. And yes yes perhaps 1 in every 50 might have a medical condition, but the others don't.

Aye, there would a certain level of responsibility that would have to be put on the parent's shoulders. That being said, I'm not a parent, and I imagine it's a nightmare if your child throws a tantrum in the middle of a shopping centre because he wants to go to McDonalds. It's just easier to say yes. I certainly have sympathy for parents in that case. However if it's a case of a whole family happily indulging themselves and they are happily feeding their kids garbage then that is entirely a different story. If only they knew the kind of social exclusion they were letting their children in for in later years.

Valmont

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

Children are another story, personally I think questions should be raised about parents when you see an obese child. And yes yes perhaps 1 in every 50 might have a medical condition, but the others don't.

Perhaps 1 in 50? Until we have some actual statistics it would be in the spirit of this forum not to spout fictional ones. Although I do agree with the general gist of your post.

electrogrimey

I wouldn't call myself fattist, I don't look down on fat people, or think they're bad people whatsoever. However, I don't give them any sympathy for their position (unless of course if it's a medical thing). The one's who have either made themselves fat, or haven't managed to lose the weight shouldn't get any special treatment or sympathy in my eyes, I'd equate sympathizing with them to sympathizing with the 30 year old lad who works in tescos because he wasn't bothered doing his Leaving Cert.

Shabbah

I am both fat and a fattist. Yes, I am overweight since childhood. Yes, I am now an adult and cannot blame my upbringing on my current size. However, I do believe the willpower and determination needed to overpower a lifetime of learning (and putting into practice) bad habits, is much MUCH more than the willpower and determination needed by someone who puts on weight over a short period of their life...like whilst going through college, a bout of depression or after having a baby, etc but whom had no real weight issues growing up!

I would not date a fat guy, I could not possibly fancy a fat guy, there is nothing (to me personally) attractive about blubber and general laziness. And I must admit that I do admire fat people a little less than fit people in general. You can call me a hypocrite but I know myself, I know I can be lazy and I definitely lack willpower. I don't use excuses anymore. My weight is my fault since I became an independent adult.

I’ve never been driven, competitive or had any major goals in life. Maybe that stems from the way I was raised. Parents never pushed us to succeed and always gave in to our demands. I was the youngest, and spoiled rotten....my mother went back to work full-time around the same time as my weight started to become a problem. She felt guilty, she had more money, I loved food. She fed me. I felt sad and lonely and abandoned after having her at home fulltime for 8 or 9 years, I ate. I was a spoiled self-pitying brat. I felt better when I comfort-ate, for a little while....my weight crept up and up...ever since then food has always been my comfort. When you are fat and you don't like being fat you can hate yourself and seek comfort. AS much as a fat person knows that comfort food is NOT what their body needs, it's almost like an addiction and they will feed. All of that is just an aside, basically where my fatness came from, it isn’t hereditary, it isn’t metabolism, it’s eating too much, eating at the wrong times, for the wrong reasons and exercising too little.

Even though I am very good at feeling sorry for myself at times, I do not have sympathy for other overweight people in general. I can empathise. I do know it's difficult but at the end of the day....metabolism, hereditary blah blah bullsh*t. Move more, eat less!! That's all it takes. I will do it very soon (lose all the weight, prob about 6 stone to lose before I’ll be happy with my weight) I just need to get into the positive determined mindset. I do feel like a hypocrite at times as I really find fat people a bit on the disgusting side (lazy and self-pitying....always looking for excuses....and yes, maybe I fall into that category myself sometimes, but I have now accepted that I cannot blame my parents any longer, what happens from here on in, is down to just one person, me)

For the people who say they eat the same as their friend/brother/sister and exercise the same or more but their friend/brother/sister actually weighs less....it is NOT medical...believe me if you watched their every move, every step throughout every day, you can bet your bottom dollar they spend more time on their feet/doing housework/moving than you do....they probably spend less time than you sitting on front of a computer/tv/reading as well and more time shopping/walking/minding kids etc etc....just think about it. Maybe they are more active in their job or just can’t sit still as well as you. There will definitely be tiny differences. My best friend is extremely thin and I codded myself into thinking, for years, that she was born to be that way, and I was born to be this way (fat) as she ate so much rubbish, just like me. As I look at it now, with more realistic eyes....yes, she likes the odd takeaway like me, but she would never ever finish her chips/burger. There’ll always be food/drink leftover on her plate or in her cup/glass. Mine = always empty. Also, she’s more picky. WE may both order the same sandwich. She’ll spend the first few minutes picking out bits she doesn’t want. IN the mean time, half my sandwich is gone, devoured....then she east half or hers while I finish mine and we’re done. She’ll have picked out half or her sandwich and then ate half of that, so I’ll have ate four times the amount she has eaten. When you think about it realistically, it’s not rocket science. Thinner people either eat less or exercise more or both.

So there you go. I am fat. This thread does not enrage or hurt me, because I myself, am fattist. I think there has to be a little bit of a fattist in everybody to be honest. I've never had a problem finding men who fancy me and want to sleep with me and love spending time in my company (alone!!!). Finding men who want to show me off though, has proven, over the years to be a little bit of a problem. I’ve had many a guy who “really likes me” but just not quite enough to shout about it from the roof-tops. It hurts. I eat. Problem gets worse. Vicious circle. Only myself to blame though.

I am quite a pretty lady I suppose, so I've been lucky in the man department(ish), but I just know I would be a happier, more confident and healthier person if I lost weight and probably a more active/better mother too (lead by example) and the only person who can make those things happen is me, and if I don't it's because I've failed, not my parents, I am an adult who is responsible for herself...and her children.

One final thing I find amusing. Recently, a colleague was on a major diet to lose weight. She made a comment I found absolutely ridiculous. She is a single girl who (maybe because she’s overweight and has low self esteem???) puts herself around a good bit and is known for it (and boasts about it?) She said “I can’t wait until all those guys who wouldn’t look at me twice start trying it on with me coz I’ve lost weight. I can’t wait to tell them where to go!!”.....as her fat, and more realistic friend I replied to her “would you be with a fat guy?” and she said “no” so I asked what exactly her problem is? How can a fat person (or a skinny person or any type of person) expect another human being to want them, if they themselves would not want that other human being if the tables were turned?

Fat people need to stop looking into their past and pointing the finger and using excuses. Yes, alot of what we are today, is based on where we’ve come from ....but what we will be tomorrow and the next day is purely down to ourselves. If you are ashamed yourself, don’t point the finger....get up and do something about it so that in a few months time you’ll b proud of yourself and only wish you’d done something about it sooner.

Sorry – long long post I know. But obviously, this is an issue I’m very interested in.

(Runs off to the local supermarket to buy loads of fresh fruit and veg after motivating herself with this ridiculously long post)

Signed:

Soon to be not-so-fat fattist

Shabbah

PS - Although I am a fattist, I obvoiusly can empathise with fatties. So can I just say to like-minded fattist....If you see an overweight person out walking, cycling, jogging or at the gym or swimming pool, try and leave your fattist thoughts outside. Commend the fat person for being a tryer and wish them your best (in your mind) Obviously, that is one fat person who is trying to make a change for the better, and it's definitely not easy for a fat person to be out in public showing the world that yes, they are fat, but they are trying

On the other hand, If you see them tucking into a large Mighty Mac Meal, think what you like

Handsome Bob

^

You can't help who you are attracted to, but there is just something about your post that I find disturbing.

Shabbah

LZ5by5 wrote: »

^

You can't help who you are attracted to, but there is just something about your post that I find disturbing.

Care to elaborate?

electrogrimey

Shabbah wrote: »

On the other hand, If you see them tucking into a large Mighty Mac Meal, think what you like

I'm guessing he's referring to this. Which is quite disturbing...

Handsome Bob

Shabbah wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

You're fat, yet a fattist. No-one says you have to be attracted to fat people but to hate them? Surely, especially someone who has confessed that they themselves lack the willpower to change, can empathise with the difficulty of getting yourself in the right place mentally to lose weight?

It really seems to me that you are taking the frustrations you have with yourself out on other people.

Shabbah

LZ5by5 wrote: »

You're fat, yet a fattist. No-one says you have to be attracted to fat people but to hate them? Surely, especially someone who has confessed that they themselves lack the willpower to change, can empathise with the difficulty of getting yourself in the right place mentally to lose weight?

It really seems to me that you are taking the frustrations you have with yourself out on other people.

I have less respect for fat people than I do for smaller and possibly healthier thinner people. This is not because I have frustrations with myself. Maybe it's because I understand fat people or at least I know what it's like to be fat! When I went through a period of thinness in my early twenties, I was not fat, I most definitely had no frustrations, and my views were the same!! Correct me if I am wrong, but I did not say that I hate fat people. That would be saying that I hate myself, which I most definitely do not. I have fat friends who I love dearly and would hate to live without.

Yes, I absolutely hate my lack of willpower and my weaknesses but I do not blame anyone but myself for these traits. I have accepted my negatives and accepted that they are no-ones problem but my own. I merely admitted to be a fattist, which this thread is all about, is it not?

I do empathise, as I stated with fat people. Some people obviously don't like my extremely honest and straight views on the matter, and I apologise if I've offended anyone. But I am fat and I am a fattist and as hard as that may be for some fellow fatties to understand or accept, it's the truth. I am not hiding from anything, nor am I taking out frustrations on anyone. I most definitely empathise with fellow fatties, I do not sympathise however. Why should I? Unless they are being tied down each day for 24 hours and forced to eat crap and not move????

I am friends with fat people and in that sense, I'm not a complete fattist. I do not even dislike fat people, I merely respect them less than others for not having strength maybe to go and do something about it. That's why I would admit that I am a fattist.

I'm guessing he's referring to this. Which is quite disturbing...

Why "disturbing" ?

Because it's fattist ?

I was at McDonalds recently. As a fat person, I felt ashamed of myself. If any one person in that place had thought to themselves "she doesn't need that food, fatty" I would understand them thinking that way. It's obvious, to ANYONE that there is no benefit in me eating a large amount of crappy food in McDonalds!

Obviously, a persons choice is a persons choice, but I personally, would have little respect for a fellow fatty if I saw them tucking into a feed at McDonalds (lets face it, the majority of fatties do not WISH to be that fat!!! Fact!). Same goes, if I saw a person with very bad acne eating greasy food, then going to the doctor to complain about their acne? We all know what we should be doing to lead happier healthier lifestyles. Maybe some of us don't want that, but in my opinion, when we don't try, we are failures.

(just my own humble fatty fattist opinion of course)

electrogrimey

LZ5by5 wrote: »

You're fat, yet a fattist. No-one says you have to be attracted to fat people but to hate them? Surely, especially someone who has confessed that they themselves lack the willpower to change, can empathise with the difficulty of getting yourself in the right place mentally to lose weight?

It really seems to me that you are taking the frustrations you have with yourself out on other people.

Oops, and there was me thinking it had some kind of sexual connotation.

*Snyper to thread*

Pace2008

Shabbah wrote: »

Same goes, if I saw a person with very bad acne eating greasy food, then going to the doctor to complain about their acne?

OT, but there's there's no link between a diet of greasy food and acne. For some people it is essentially beyond their control, and only treatable with toxic drugs.

Handsome Bob

Shabbah wrote: »

I have less respect for fat people than I do for smaller and possibly healthier thinner people. This is not because I have frustrations with myself. Maybe it's because I understand fat people or at least I know what it's like to be fat! When I went through a period of thinness in my early twenties, I was not fat, I most definitely had no frustrations, and my views were the same!! Correct me if I am wrong, but I did not say that I hate fat people. That would be saying that I hate myself, which I most definitely do not. I have fat friends who I love dearly and would hate to live without.

I racist hates people of a different race, so I can only assume that a fattist hates overweight people. Fattists have zero tolerance of overweight people; you say you're friends with overweight people, a fattist wouldn't be friends with overweight people. So I can only assume you're not fattist.

Yes, I absolutely hate my lack of willpower and my weaknesses but I do not blame anyone but myself for these traits. I have accepted my negatives and accepted that they are no-ones problem but my own. I merely admitted to be a fattist, which this thread is all about, is it not?

No-one says that you would blame someone else. If you think that is what all overweight people do then you're sadly mistaken.

I do empathise, as I stated with fat people. Some people obviously don't like my extremely honest and straight views on the matter, and I apologise if I've offended anyone. But I am fat and I am a fattist and as hard as that may be for some fellow fatties to understand or accept, it's the truth. I am not hiding from anything, nor am I taking out frustrations on anyone. I most definitely empathise with fellow fatties, I do not sympathise however. Why should I? Unless they are being tied down each day for 24 hours and forced to eat crap and not move????

TBPH I think your fellow "fattists" would laugh at you. That's not me being harsh, I'm just trying to show you how ridiculously misguided your stance is.

I am friends with fat people and in that sense, I'm not a complete fattist. I do not even dislike fat people, I merely respect them less than others for not having strength maybe to go and do something about it. That's why I would admit that I am a fattist.

Where is your strength to do something about your own situation? You have no right to harbour such hostilites when you are in the exact same boat.

Shabbah

Pace2008 wrote: »

OT, but there's there's no link between a diet of greasy food and acne. For some people it is essentially beyond their control, and only treatable with toxic drugs.

A bad diet, especially a diet laden with greasy food is bad for a persons skin - fact! Possibly not the cause of acne, which can be purely a medical problem...but in all fairness, a bad diet isn't going to help! Come on!!!

Shabbah

LZ5by5 wrote: »

I racist hates people of a different race, so I can only assume that a fattist hates overweight people.

I respect fatter people, in general, less than I respect thinner or fitter people....I do not hate and you must not hate fat people to be a fattist! DOn't be ridiculous. A black person may not HATE white people but they may prefer their fellow black men...they might not employ white people in their company or they may always give thir fellow black people preference. It doesn't make them HATE white people but it makes them racist!

fattism [ˈfætɪzəm]
n (Sociology) discrimination on the basis of weight, esp prejudice against those considered to be overweight

TBPH I think your fellow "fattists" would laugh at you. That's not me being harsh, I'm just trying to show you how ridiculously misguided your stance is.

You cannot assume what someone else will think!!! Let them laugh if they must. They might laugh at my fatness, but they would respect the fact that I respect their opinions, as I respect fat peoples rights to defend themselves if they must. My own personal opinions and feelings cannot possibly misguided as they are just that, personal views and feelings!!

Where is your strength to do something about your own situation? You have no right to harbour such hostilites when you are in the exact same boat.

I have no hostilities towards fat and/or lazy people. I have less respect for them, but I am not hostile towards them, or anyone. You can be a racist without doing anything about it, without HATING another man, woman or child. You can merely assume one race is a superior race than another. You can also be a fattist without hating another man, woman or child, without having hostilities. I am not hostile towards anyone. I have opinions though. That's the bit you're not getting.

You can't accept that a fat person has less respect for fat people, in general!! But it's true. It's how I feel. Maybe it's wrong of me. Maybe I'm a bad person. I would not condone rude behaviour from any one person towards any other person - be it fat, thin, black or white people or whoever. I'm not saying fat people deserve to be ridiculed or treated like inferior beings. Just because a person is a racist, does not mean they will go on a killing spree or hang a notice on the door of their public house telling other races to stay away. A person, as many Irish people are, can be privately racist, yet portray publicly, an image of the furthest thing you could imagine from a racist, love thy neighbour etc. A racist may never be hostile towards someone from another race. Same with a fattist.

But peoples thoughts and opinion are their own, and for me personally, fat people would need to work a little harder to impress me, and my personal taste excludes fat men from my diet... :P ..... because as bad as it may sound, I will have made my mind up to a certain extent about them before I even meet them....and that's what fattists do. That said, minds are for changing, and I've got to know and love many fat people....but my initial opinions were usually proved right....ie a little bit (or a big bit) lazy, less-than-motivated, self-pitying at times and no willpower. I'm not saying that is the MAIN personality traits of ALL fat people either, they are underlying personality traits, but they are usually there nonetheless and they are not pretty!!

I never said I was perfect before people start to judge me for being honest! It's just a fattist opinion from a different perspective. Maybe fattist is too strong a word for the way I feel, however, if I was holding interviews for a position in my company the fatter person would need to go a longer way to prove their worth to me, as I'd have worries of laziness and lack of motivation/lack of determination down the road....so yes, I suppose I am fattist.

Shabbah

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Where is your strength to do something about your own situation? You have no right to harbour such hostilites when you are in the exact same boat.

As much as I dislike your wording...I don't harbour hostilities, I merely have a little lest respect for fat people, on first inspection. Maybe it's judging a book by the cover, and it most certainly is not PC, but I'm talking about fat people, in general and not one specific fat person.

Are you honestly trying to tell me, that because I am fat, I cannot have an opinion on fat people in general?! That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I think I'm at an even better advantage to comment on fat people, than a person who has never battled with their weight in their lives....maybe that's why you've got such a problem with it??? Is it cutting a little too close to the bone maybe?

So, because I am human, can I not have an opinion on people??????

WesternNight

Shabbah wrote: »

Why "disturbing" ?

What I find disturbing is that you seem to base your respect for people on their physical characteristics.

Handsome Bob

Shabbah wrote: »

I respect fatter people, in general, less than I respect thinner or fitter people....I do not hate and you must not hate fat people to be a fattist! DOn't be ridiculous. A black person may not HATE white people but they may prefer their fellow black men...they might not employ white people in their company or they may always give thir fellow black people preference. It doesn't make them HATE white people but it makes them racist!

fattism [ˈfætɪzəm]
n (Sociology) discrimination on the basis of weight, esp prejudice against those considered to be overweight

Discrimination, ignorance, racism....basically they are all cannotations of contempt for me. Surely if someon chooses not to hire black people there is a certain level of resentment there no?

You cannot assume what someone else will think!!! Let them laugh if they must. They might laugh at my fatness, but they would respect the fact that I respect their opinions, as I respect fat peoples rights to defend themselves if they must. My own personal opinions and feelings cannot possibly misguided as they are just that, personal views and feelings!!

No they wouldn't respect you, I guarantee the second you walk away they'll start sniggering at you.

I have no hostilities towards fat and/or lazy people. I have less respect for them, but I am not hostile towards them, or anyone. You can be a racist without doing anything about it, without HATING another man, woman or child. You can merely assume one race is a superior race than another. You can also be a fattist without hating another man, woman or child, without having hostilities. I am not hostile towards anyone. I have opinions though. That's the bit you're not getting.

I never said that hating someone means you have to act on it verbally or violently. People are perfectly capable of harbouring ill will towards other people silently.

You can't accept that a fat person has less respect for fat people, in general!! But it's true. It's how I feel. Maybe it's wrong of me. Maybe I'm a bad person. I would not condone rude behaviour from any one person towards any other person - be it fat, thin, black or white people or whoever. I'm not saying fat people deserve to be ridiculed or treated like inferior beings.

Let me ask you a few things. Do you ever get abused because you are overweight? Ever feel that you are being dismissed or not being taken seriously because you are overweight? Ever get laughed at in your face or made feel inferior? I'm sure you can yes to at least one of those questions. How in the blue hell can you have such a lack of respect for people who go through the same thing as you do?

Just because a person is a racist, does not mean they will go on a killing spree or hang a notice on the door of their public house telling other races to stay away. A person, as many Irish people are, can be privately racist, yet portray publicly, an image of the furthest thing you could imagine from a racist, love thy neighbour etc. A racist may never be hostile towards someone from another race. Same with a fattist.

Wait, are you saying you pretend to be nice to fat people when in reality inside you are not being sincere? How patronising and cowardly is that? For someone with such strong feelings on the matter I would expect that you wouldn't be afraid to speak outspoken on the subject. Or are you afraid of alienating people if you did do that?

But peoples thoughts and opinion are their own, and for me personally, fat people would need to work a little harder to impress me, and my personal taste excludes fat men from my diet... :P ..... because as bad as it may sound, I will have made my mind up to a certain extent about them before I even meet them....and that's what fattists do. That said, minds are for changing, and I've got to know and love many fat people....but my initial opinions were usually proved right....ie a little bit (or a big bit) lazy, less-than-motivated, self-pitying at times and no willpower. I'm not saying that is the MAIN personality traits of ALL fat people either, they are underlying personality traits, but they are usually there nonetheless and they are not pretty!!

Do you not think thin people can lack ambition, motivation or cannot be lazy? Let's call a spade a spade here, your issue has nothing to do with the supposed exclusive traits fat people have, your issue is with how they look. Or truth be known with how you look yourself.

I never said I was perfect before people start to judge me for being honest! It's just a fattist opinion from a different perspective. Maybe fattist is too strong a word for the way I feel, however, if I was holding interviews for a position in my company the fatter person would need to go a longer way to prove their worth to me, as I'd have worries of laziness and lack of motivation/lack of determination down the road....so yes, I suppose I am fattist.

If the shoe was on the other foot and you were getting turned down constantly because an employer was discriminating against you without even knowing you based on your weight, how would you feel? Would you think that it's right? Would you accept it?

I'm sorry for being slightly agressive, I'm not that fat anymore, but it's still a raw subject.

Shabbah

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Discrimination, ignorance, racism....basically they are all cannotations of contempt for me. Surely if someon chooses not to hire black people there is a certain level of resentment there no?

I do not harbour contempt, resentment, hatred or hostility towards any man, woman or beast!!! I respect everyones right to their own opinions and ways of life. I do however, respect fat people, in general, a little less than fitter people.

No they wouldn't respect you, I guarantee the second you walk away they'll start sniggering at you.

I didn't say they would respect me. I said they'd respect my opinion They wouldn't snigger when I walk away, I'd laugh with them before they got a chance!

I never said that hating someone means you have to act on it verbally or violently. People are perfectly capable of harbouring ill will towards other people silently.

I do not harbour ill will, hate or feel hostile or any other BAD feelings towards fat people. I respect them a little less or hold them in lower esteem maybe!! I do not wish them sadness or grief in their lives. I do not wish them pain. I do, however, have less respect for them for not doing anything about their "weight issues"

Do you ever get abused because you are overweight?

I can't remember the last time, however, if I was to get openly abused about my weight I would simply have sympathy for the abuser, as I would realise that their life is so empty and boring that they need to find amusement in ridiculing somebody they do not know.

Ever feel that you are being dismissed or not being taken seriously because you are overweight?

If my being fat, interfered that much with my life and emotions I would most definitey have lost alot more weight a long time ago. Maybe I am lucky in that I ignore negativity alot of the time and concentrate on positivity. Maybe I don't see it when I'm being dismissed because of my weight, maybe I ignore it?

Ever get laughed at in your face or made feel inferior?

Yes, and it doesn't take me long to tell that person exactly why they are inferior to me!! Put them back in their place and they know not to go their again. I am stremely opinionated and I never hold back if I feel insulted by another human being.

e you can yes to at least one of those questions. How in the blue hell can you have such a lack of respect for people who go through the same thing as you do?

It isn't a complete lack of respect. And the reason I CAN have less respect for these people is because I know, and they know that they can do something about it, if they'd hop up off their lazy self-pitying arses and do it!

re you saying you pretend to be nice to fat people when in reality inside you are not being sincere? How patronising and cowardly is that? For someone with such strong feelings on the matter I would expect that you wouldn't be afraid to speak outspoken on the subject. Or are you afraid of alienating people if you did do that?

I don't pretend to be nice to fat people hahaha!!! Just because I respect a person a little less than the person next to them doesn't mean I would go around disrespecting them, or anyone for that matter. If a fat person asked me out straight if I respected fat people less than fit people I would tell the truth. I am the most honest person I know, sometimes my honesty gets me into trouble.I'm also genuine and a people-person. I would give everyone a chance.as I said before, a fat person may have to prove themselves a little more to me, which makes me a fattist! I would be outspoken on the subject. When it comes down to taste, all of my friends, fat or thin or in between, know that I wouldn't or couldn't or at least, never have fancied a fat guy. I've gotten into relationships with tubby guys and tried to overlook the belly and get to know the person but my shallowness has always won out and the fattist in me has always ended up finishing the relationship :eek:

Don't get me wrong, I could fall in love with a fat person tomorrow, or indeed be in love with someone, and stay in love with that same someone if they gained weight. I have an open mind about things. I'm merely admitting here that I am fat, and I would consider myself a fattist so far in life (I'm 28)

not think thin people can lack ambition, motivation or cannot be lazy? Let's call a spade a spade here, your issue has nothing to do with the supposed exclusive traits fat people have, your issue is with how they look. Or truth be known with how you look yourself.

No, my issue is my assumptions about fat people. My initial inclings about fat people and my presumtions, however wrong they may or may not be, about fat people. The issue, is my being a fattist!

shoe was on the other foot and you were getting turned down constantly because an employer was discriminating against you without even knowing you based on your weight, how would you feel? Would you think that it's right? Would you accept it?

I would absolutely tackle my weight head-on if my fatness was having such an impact on my life. I would definitly lose weight and I would never blame the employers for not wanting fat employees. I would simply understand where they were coming from, and if I really and truly wanted a job and my weight was holding me back, the only thing I can think that I would do, is lose weight. Seriously! Yes, it would hurt, but I would only have myself to blame.

Shabbah

WesternNight wrote: »

What I find disturbing is that you seem to base your respect for people on their physical characteristics.

huh?

The thread title is "are you fattist"

Isn't a fattist basically making judgements on a whole group of people based on their presumed characteristics, be they physical, lifestyle or personality characteristics?

I never I am right in my presumtions but I certainly don't think that my mind thinks in a disturbing way. Realistic possibly. Disturbing? No chance.

WesternNight

Shabbah wrote: »

huh?

The thread title is "are you fattist"

Isn't a fattist basically making judgements on a whole group of people based on their presumed characteristics, be they physical, lifestyle or personality characteristics?

I never I am right in my presumtions but I certainly don't think that my mind thinks in a disturbing way. Realistic possibly. Disturbing? No chance.

Being fattist means being discriminatory (either inwardly or outwardly) towards overweight people purely for being overweight.

Regardless of the title of the thread (which I'm well aware of, thanks), I still find it disturbing that anyone bases respect on something physical. That's just something I don't see very often.

Shabbah

WesternNight wrote: »

Regardless of the title of the thread (which I'm well aware of, thanks), I still find it disturbing that anyone bases respect on something physical. That's just something I don't see very often.

You have much to learn about people and about how people think so.

There are many times in life that a person will encounter discrimination (or lack of respect) because of VERY physical things.

a little aside:- my sister, who wears less make-up and shows less cleavage than me, and smiles alot less often got a ticket off a garda for breaking far less laws than I was breaking. I come up against same garda (whilst breaking more laws) less than five minutes later. I have my lippy on, and my best smile. My cleavage and smile await his approval. I am waved on, without a ticket. Was my sister discriminated against because of her looks or her lack or facial expression? Possibly! She most definitely got a ticket because of physical circumstances. Ok, maybe the garda wasn't showing me respect as such, but I didn't end up with a fine, so in my book, I didn't get a ticket, because the garda respected my good looks :rolleyes: Purely shallow but purely true!

Being fat is about so much more than just the physicalities of it though!! It involves a lack of self respect, a lack of motivation and a lack of determination. If you'd have read all my posts you'll have understood that the reason I would respect fat people a little less is because I would presume they have characteristics of a "fat person", ie. self pitying, lack of motivation or determination, laziness etc. I have admitted that my presumptions are there to be proved wrong and some fat people have proved me wrong. But I will stand by my admission that I am a fattist and I do generalise and judge fat people, not based on appearances alone but based on much more than just appearances, based on life experience and a massive interest in other poeple

Being a fattist or a racist or any other type of "ist" is all based on presumptions. I've never said I'm right or I'm a great person for being a fattist. But all "ist"s have ready-made presumptions about a certain type of person really don't they?


I think I've ranted enough for one evening. Maybe it's time for me to....put the kettle on and have a cuppa

Danniboo

Shabbah wrote: »

I can't remember the last time, however, if I was to get openly abused about my weight I would simply have sympathy for the abuser, as I would realise that their life is so empty and boring that they need to find amusement in ridiculing somebody they do not know.
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You are very hypocritical.

Danniboo

Shabbah --Why "disturbing" ?

Because it's fattist ?

I was at McDonalds recently. As a fat person, I felt ashamed of myself. If any one person in that place had thought to themselves "she doesn't need that food, fatty" I would understand them thinking that way. It's obvious, to ANYONE that there is no benefit in me eating a large amount of crappy food in McDonalds!

Obviously, a persons choice is a persons choice, but I personally, would have little respect for a fellow fatty if I saw them tucking into a feed at McDonalds (lets face it, the majority of fatties do not WISH to be that fat!!! Fact!). Same goes, if I saw a person with very bad acne eating greasy food, then going to the doctor to complain about their acne? We all know what we should be doing to lead happier healthier lifestyles. Maybe some of us don't want that, but in my opinion, when we don't try, we are failures.

(just my own humble fatty fattist opinion of course)



Are you actually skinny but just have it in your head that you are fat and are maybe obsessed with it and feel guilty for eating junk food. Honestly i'm not being smart but just can't my head around your comments at all.

Shabbah

Are you actually skinny but just have it in your head that you are fat and are maybe obsessed with it and feel guilty for eating junk food. Honestly i'm not being smart but just can't my head around your comments at all.

No, I'm 5ft 6" and in or around 17 stone. I'm definitely not skinny, and have never been skinny (I did go down to 11stone, which is a healthy weight for my height, for a year or two about 8 or 9 years ago...and I still maintained the same fattist views at that time...so it's not a self-loathing issue!) but I was obese all through school, from the age of around 8 or 9 onwards....the first time I realised I wasn't the "same" as all the skinnier kids was when my mum hand-made my 1st Holy Communion dress saying the ones in the shops wouldnt fit me because of my "puppy fat"....puppy fat remained until I lost weight myself when I was about 18/19/20.....I regained all that weight once I started working in offices and driving and I've never lost it since.

I admitted to probably being hypocritical in one of my earlier posts. I'd imagine, being fat and also being a fattist would automtically make me a hypocrite.