Burnley Fc v Manchester United Fc (Match Thread) [mod warning post #537]

Carroller16

V

BURNLEY - 10/1
DRAW - 4/1
MAN UTD - 3/10

Man Utd should line up like

FOSTER

DE LAET
O'SHEA
BROWN/EVANS
EVRA

VALENCIA
CARRICK
SCHOLES
GIGGS

ROONEY
BERBATOV

SUBS:
KUSZCZAK
FABIO
GIBSON
FLETCHER
EVANS/BROWN
OWEN
ANDERSON

I would say this will be a tough game. Burnley have shown plenty of spirit against big teams in the carling cup. This added to their first home game in the premiership will make for a testing battle for man utd.

Prediction: BURN 2-3 MAN U


Match will not be on tv

killwill

Is Nan fit to play?If so I think he should get the nod over Giggs. Would like to see Owen get the second half too and hopefully get a goal. Anyways going for a 0-2 to United.

Pighead

No Da Silva? Thought he played pretty well against Birmingham. Is he injured?

NaiveMelodies

is anderson injured?????

Carroller16

No I benched Fabio. thought he gave some sloppy balls away first half and bad crosses. De laet looked very good in pre-season and there was talk he would start this game.

nani went off injured at half time yesterday. So i'm not sure if he'll be fit to play

Carroller16

only1stevo wrote: »

is anderson injured?????

Whoops forgot about anderson. Gets the nod ahead of macheda on the bench

ITT-Pat

Carroller16 wrote: »

Whoops forgot about anderson. Gets the nod ahead of macheda on the bench

Doubt Scholes will start this match aswell

Iago

Can't see the team you do mate, at a guess I'd say it's likely we'll see

Foster

Fabio Brown O'Shea Evra


Valencia Carrick Fletcher Park


Rooney Berbatov

Bench:
PIG
Anderson
Scholes
Giggs
Owen
De Leat
Evans

Regardless of Burnley having a good run in the cup last year or not, they were caught out by Stoke at the weekend and showed a little naiveity along the way. They would have been hoping to pick up at least a point from that game and will be a little knocked as a result.

United didn't play very well at the weekend, but I'd expect that to change on Weds with Carrick replacing Scholes and Park coming in for Nani. I think Evans will be rested for Wigan if there's any doubt about his fitness which leaves Brown & O'Shea playing in the centre.

Can't see past a comfortable win for United, preferably with more goals than yesterday. I'm going with 3-0 for United in this one.

Carroller16

Fergie was saying on MUTv that Vidic should be back for Saturday. Why do you feel Scholes won't start

Boggles

Carroller16 wrote: »

Fergie was saying on MUTv that Vidic should be back for Saturday. Why do you feel Scholes won't start

He needs time to rest his ginger bones!

NaiveMelodies

anderson will start, didnt get off bench sunday as evans had to go off injured..

Scholes did well to get 90 minutes on sunday let alone another 90 tomoro night, he will most definitely not start,.

nicklauski

May aswell get it out of the way now :

Any streams :P

Cant see too many changes. Carrick in for Scholes would be my only change. Although I would really like to see Ando get some game time in

Iago

Carroller16 wrote: »

Fergie was saying on MUTv that Vidic should be back for Saturday. Why do you feel Scholes won't start

He's hoping he will be, but I can't see him risking Evans just in case. In either event if he can keep Evans fresh and have Vidic back then he can move O'Shea back out to right full and give himself options. Just can't see Evans starting unless he's 100%

To be honest I thought Scholes looked laboured yesterday, Fletcher had to do a lot of covering for him and he got caught ahead of the ball too much for my liking. As much as I hate to say it I'm not sure the legs are there anymore.

I hope I'm wrong and he'll play an integral part in the season, but even if he does I can't see him playing 2 games in 3 days very often with the options that we have in the middle.

ntlbell

Carroller16 wrote: »

Fergie was saying on MUTv that Vidic should be back for Saturday. Why do you feel Scholes won't start

prob cause he played the full 90 on sun.

Necronomicon

I'd go with Iago's team, with the possible exception of Anderson for Fletcher. Didn't think Fabio had a terrific game yesterday, but I'd still expect him to start.

Mikeyt086

Paul Scholes wont start, he played the full 90 yesterday and the days of him playing consecutive matches are gone.

Anderson will start after Fergie had him ready to come on vs Brum but had to bring Brown on for Evans. Also expecting Park to start, good for away games.

i would expect:

Foster

Fabio-O'Shea-Brown-Evra

Valencia-Carrick-Anderson-Park

Rooney-Berbatov

Headshot

wouldnt be surprised to see owen start,even thou I believe you should keep a consistent attack force

Mr Alan

i'd expect Owen to start also.

nicklauski

If he had of scored his one on one, I'd agree with you fellas. But myself, I see Berbs and Rooney playing again.

Y2J_MUFC

Mr Alan wrote: »

i'd expect Owen to start also.

Damn, this means he probably won't so

Iago

Headshot wrote: »

wouldnt be surprised to see owen start,even thou I believe you should keep a consistent attack force

Mr Alan wrote: »

i'd expect Owen to start also.

I don't know, there's a clear logic behind it and it would give Owen an opportunity to get his confidence up so it could happen.

On the other hand the whole Rooney/Berbatov partnership (which will be the 1st choice partnership imo) still hasn't really had a chance to bed down yet. They need to get real gametime playing up top together to get that understanding up, and United have been handed 3 of the easier assignments at the start of the season to do so.

If United were 2 up at half-time he might bring Owen on for the second half, or if we win he may start him against Wigan but I think we need to give Rooney/Berbatov time to find their understanding first.

Of course I can see why Ferguson might decide otherwise but I think he may leave it as is for now.

Headshot

I expect Burnley to have 11 men behind the ball

so it's going to be a very tough game for utd,so the wings will be vital for utd

daveyboy_1ie

I think Ferguson realises that Owen is one of those confidence strikers in that he thrives on goals and the first one is the all important one. For that reason I reckon he might start up front alongside Rooney.

I don't think Berba had a good enough game for someone who is supposidly under pressure to deliver the goods this year so he might need the kick up the a**. Nani is under just as much pressure and in pre-season and yesterday he looked really up for it. Berba should be taking notes.................

Spud83

Can see a couple of changes from the weekend due to injuries, and Fergie not knowing his best team, or just wanting to try out different combinations.

---

Foster

---

Fabio----O'Shea---Brown/Evans----Evra
Valencia----Carrick

---

Fletcher--Nani

---

Rooney

---

Owen

---

Can't see too many changes in the back line, basically whoever is fir will play.

Think the wingers will be left as the were, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Park come in for either one.

Carrick being left out of the squad suggests he was getting a kick up the hole. I think Fergie may find out how if he felt it on Wednesday. Wouldn't drop Fletcher as I think he was one of our best players yesterday. Anderson may come in instead of Carrick depending on what the story is with Carrick.

I think Owen will come in for Berbatov to show Berbatov that Owen isn't just a bench/impact player and that he is a contender for your spot.

Necronomicon

Is Nani actually fit? I missed all the post-match stuff.

CR 7

Anyone know the expected Burnley line-up? If Eagles starts, he could cause some big problems for Evra.

Y2J_MUFC

Wonder what the story was with Carrick?

mayordenis

Could see owen starting aswell but fancy burnley to grab a draw.

herbieflowers

Could be a tricky one, don't fancy O'Shea (though he looked assured v Brum) and Brown in the centre of defence. United should have enough to win it, though.

Spud83

herbieflowers wrote: »

Could be a tricky one, don't fancy O'Shea (though he looked assured v Brum) and Brown in the centre of defence. United should have enough to win it, though.

Thats captain O'Shea to you!!!


Assuming Rio, Giggs, and Neville don't play.

Necronomicon

Rooney looking for his 100th United goal.

Hope it's not a jinx, it's not unusual to see players struggling to get over a landmark when it's approaching.

Pro. F

Foster
Fabio.JOS.Brown.Evra
Valencia.Carrick.Ando.Park
Rooney.Berbatov

Can't see Owen starting since Burnley will probably have 11 behind the ball. the game will suit Berbs better imo. Owen will probably come on if/when we are a goal up and the game gets a bit stretched.

Hopefully Foster continues his improvement.

Headshot

Pro. F wrote: »

Foster
Fabio.JOS.Brown.Evra
Valencia.Carrick.Ando.Park
Rooney.Berbatov

Can't see Owen starting since Burnley will probably have 11 behind the ball. the game will suit Berbs better imo. Owen will probably come on if/when we are a goal up and the game gets a bit stretched.

Hopefully Foster continues his improvement.

that's why owen should start

Spud83

Headshot wrote: »

that's why owen should start

No because there won't be any space behind them for Owens clever runs. Berbatov is more likely to unlock a packed defense.

However I still think Owen will start just not for that reason.

angel01

Shame its not on the tv should be a good game... I would start with Owen..please let Rooney get his goal

herbieflowers

I don't know, they played some nice football last season and have some technical players. They'll be cuatious when they don't have the ball but I'd imagine being at home they'll actually try and go for it. Hopefully MU will do some damage on the counter.

Spud83

herbieflowers wrote: »

I don't know, they played some nice football last season and have some technical players. They'll be cuatious when they don't have the ball but I'd imagine being at home they'll actually try and go for it. Hopefully MU will do some damage on the counter.

With Burnley having United, Everton, Chelsea, and Liverpool all in a row I imagine they could be thinking our season really starts against Sunderland.

So there is a chance the could go out and actually try play the game as its so early in the season and these games won't be the ones deciding their season.

Pro. F

Headshot wrote: »

that's why owen should start

The way i see it Owen is better when the game is stretched so he can make his runs off the shoulder of the defender. When the opposition are all out defending they end up sitting deeper so there is less space for him in behind imo.

Paul Tergat

Anyone reckon this may be on in Sinnotts in Dublin?

May give em a ring in a bit and find out.

Wont be an easy game for us I dont think. Whats good though is that its the start of the season and their pitch will be quality which will suit our game. I have memories of last season and around xmas time their pitch was pretty cut up.

Spud83

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Anyone reckon this may be on in Sinnotts in Dublin?

May give em a ring in a bit and find out.

Wont be an easy game for us I dont think. Whats good though is that its the start of the season and their pitch will be quality which will suit our game. I have memories of last season and around xmas time their pitch was pretty cut up.

Woolshed may be a better bet.

Paul Tergat

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Woolshed may be a better bet.

cheers alan keep forgetting about that place, will call them too.

Spud83

I think its football fans, rather than United fans they don't like. Definitely prefer there Rugby.

MagicMarker

I'm confused, how will the match be shown anywhere when it's not on tv?

Paul Tergat

ITT-Pat wrote: »

I've been told by a good few people that the staff in Sinnotts aren't big fans of United. Heard one story where the was that finished at about 4 and a United match started at 4, and rather than switch over they listened to the Rugby analysis for a while and turned on the match with over a half hour gone.

Other little things like United matches being turned on without the sound. So I'd say if they're showing any football, it'll be the Liverpool-Stoke match

Thats a bit weird, sorry for dragging this off topic but I've watched 10+ games in Sinnotts last year and everytime they put the matches on. There were decent sized crowds and they always had on the full game and analysis.

_blank_

Without a doubt, they are absolute cúnts to United fans.

No United fan should give them any money.

Go elsewhere.

ITT-Pat

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Anyone reckon this may be on in Sinnotts in Dublin?

May give em a ring in a bit and find out.

Wont be an easy game for us I dont think. Whats good though is that its the start of the season and their pitch will be quality which will suit our game. I have memories of last season and around xmas time their pitch was pretty cut up.

I've been told by a good few people that the staff in Sinnotts aren't big fans of United. Heard one story where there was a rugby match that finished at about 4 and a United match started at 4, and rather than switch over they listened to the Rugby analysis for a while and turned on the match with over a half hour gone.

Other little things like United matches being turned on without the sound. So I'd say if they're showing any football, it'll be the Liverpool-Stoke match

Paul Tergat

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'm confused, how will the match be shown anywhere when it's not on tv?

Certain places have foreign channels...

Dancor

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Anyone reckon this may be on in Sinnotts in Dublin?

May give em a ring in a bit and find out.

Wont be an easy game for us I dont think. Whats good though is that its the start of the season and their pitch will be quality which will suit our game. I have memories of last season and around xmas time their pitch was pretty cut up.

Try The living room too. Two of the biggest screens ive ever seen in a pub and the most obscure channells too so im sure they will pick up the United game.

Dancor

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Paul Tergat

The woolshed are advertising both Pool and Utd matches, I only live a few mins away so there it is.

Cheers lads.

DBraithwaite

Pro. F wrote: »

Foster
Fabio.JOS.Brown.Evra
Valencia.Carrick.Ando.Park
Rooney.Berbatov

Can't see Owen starting since Burnley will probably have 11 behind the ball. the game will suit Berbs better imo. Owen will probably come on if/when we are a goal up and the game gets a bit stretched.

Hopefully Foster continues his improvement.

Owens pace would suit that kind of play, Berbatov's slow holding up play works against other teams but I would give Owen the nod over Berba