Looking for oponions on this Rav4

Orange69

Hi,

My sister is interested in this RAV4 on carzone, i don't know much about them but this one seems rather cheap... almost too cheap..

Anyone have any opinions?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Rav4/5dr-NCT-/200933194870733/advert?channel=CARS

Thanks in advance!

EPM

Looks in very good nick. Just verify if it has been regularly serviced if possible and it should be a decent buy if you're looking for that kind of car

Bazzy

looks very clean mileage seems a bit low. it is a 1.9 petrol which wouldnt be all that desirable at the moment with people opting for diesel

make sure to check there is no finance outstanding either.

colm_mcm

That's a 1.8 2WD model. very good on fuel and low maintainance.

Lex Luthor

colm_mcm wrote: »

That's a 1.8 2WD model. very good on fuel and low maintainance.

anorak...;)

squod

So you're going to spend €5000 on a '01 petrol jeep.


You deserve an award of some kind.

snowman707

Bazzy wrote: »

make sure to check there is no finance outstanding either.

1 owner since 2001 . hardly likely

JHMEG

colm_mcm wrote: »

That's a 1.8 2WD model. very good on fuel and low maintainance.

Is there any way to tell just by looking at them whether they're 1.8 2WD or 2.0 4WD?

colm_mcm

2WD models don't have wheel arch extensions



4WD petrol models have arch extensions (and matching wider wheels)


4WD diesel models have arch extensions and a bonnet scoop.


(Japanese spec models come in both narrow and wide bodies regardless of engine)

JHMEG

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Rav4/2.0-4X4-/200835189805156/advert?channel=CARS

1.8 or Jap, but not an Irish/UK 2.0?

colm_mcm

That's a pre-facelift UK spec GX model.

it is indeed a 4X4 with a narrow body. I should've stuck "generally" in there!

Busta Hyman

am i alone in this opinion ......... "its a rav4 ....... end of story"

sorry but i hate em with a passion

colm_mcm

why do you hate them?

squod

squod wrote: »

So you're going to spend €5000 on a '01 petrol jeep.


You deserve an award of some kind.

I don't like quoting myself here but are we gonna let this lady spend €5,000
on a '01 petrol jeep.

By this time tomorrow it'll be worth half that. Don't buy it.

colm_mcm

That's a ridiculous statement, the Rav4 has phenomonal resale value, that's based on actually selling them for years, and not some ill informed prejudice based on the fact that it's an SUV.
The fact that the Rav4 1.8 is 2WD means there are no extra 4X4 parts to need maintaining (Hardy Spicer units, Transfer boxes, Rear axles, Low ratio box etc) another plus is that you're not lugging all that around, which means you get fuel economy comparable to some 4X4 diesels (From what I remember there was only 3 or 4 mpg between the 2.0 D-4D 4WD and the 1.8 VVT-i 2WD models)
Supply never quite meets demand with these.
The image has always been right-on through a combination of Toyota's reliability, the fact that there are no commercial models, and appeal of low tax and running costs which combined mean there's always a following for these cars.

JHMEG

colm_mcm wrote: »

That's a pre-facelift UK spec GX model.

UK, or UK/Ire? Pre-facelift? When was the facelift?

squod

colm_mcm wrote: »

That's a ridiculous statement, the Rav4 has phenomonal resale value, that's based on actually selling them for years, and not some ill informed prejudice based on the fact that it's an SUV.
The fact that the Rav4 1.8 is 2WD means there are no extra 4X4 parts to need maintaining (Hardy Spicer units, Transfer boxes, Rear axles, Low ratio box etc) another plus is that you're not lugging all that around, which means you get fuel economy comparable to some 4X4 diesels (From what I remember there was only 3 or 4 mpg between the 2.0 D-4D 4WD and the 1.8 VVT-i 2WD models)
Supply never quite meets demand with these.
The image has always been right-on through a combination of Toyota's reliability, the fact that there are no commercial models, and appeal of low tax and running costs which combined mean there's always a following for these cars.

I'm illinformed, so you've been selling them for years and you reckon I'm illinformed. Glad I'm not buying one from you so.

OP there's still '01 & '02 diesels going for around the same money, it's your choice ofcourse. If it we're my money I'd go diesel, for fuel economy and an easier resale.

colm_mcm

you obviously are ill informed if you reckon a 1.8 Rav4 is hard to sell,

Also, if you're looking at a 2001 diesel, you have so much more scope for repair bills than on a petrol. They're very well built, but even something like a set of injectors, a turbo, or a flywheel on their own would make up about a quarter the price of this petrol one.

There's also the fact that the chepest diesel Rav4 on carzone is €6700 and has 100,000 miles. the next ones read 89,000/111,000/126,000/102,000. Anyone who paid the €6,500 extra for the diesel over the petrol new will have gotten the use out if it

To get a Rav4 diesel with the same mileage as the petrol model the OP is looking at, you need this one.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Rav4/2.0LD4D/200929194642755/advert?channel=CARS
which is €9,500 and a short wheelbase.


But then you probably knew that.

Busta Hyman

colm_mcm wrote: »

why do you hate them?

dunno it just enrages me with its very being. dont think its got ANY redeaming feature. its probably a problem that needs medicating but i despise them

colm_mcm

JHMEG wrote: »

UK, or UK/Ire? Pre-facelift? When was the facelift?

facelift was very late in 2003. before the facelift they had square foglights and the indicators were on the bumpers, after the facelift they got round foglights and the indicators were in the headlamp unit. On the Irish models they got increased spec new colours (no more 2 tone) standard colour coded bumpers and nicer dash plastics.
The one in your link looks to be UK from the badge on the wing. (from what I remember??) they had NV badges on the 1.8 and GX on the 2.0

Busta Hyman wrote: »

dunno it just enrages me with its very being. dont think its got ANY redeaming feature. its probably a problem that needs medicating but i despise them

Fair enough, there are loads of cars i dislike too. for me they have lots of good points compared with a similarly sized family saloon

JHMEG

colm_mcm wrote: »

facelift was very late in 2003. before the facelift they had square foglights and the indicators were on the bumpers, after the facelift they got round foglights and the indicators were in the headlamp unit. On the Irish models they got increased spec new colours (no more 2 tone) standard colour coded bumpers and nicer dash plastics.

Hmmm. Someone I know has a 2001 model 2L with colour coded bumpers. Is that a UK model?

JHMEG

squod wrote: »

I'm illinformed, so you've been selling them for years and you reckon I'm illinformed. Glad I'm not buying one from you so.

I'd take colm's word for it... he is actually an expert on the subject...

colm_mcm

JHMEG wrote: »

Hmmm. Someone I know has a 2001 model 2L with colour coded bumpers. Is that a UK model?

nope. depends on the trim level and the actual body colour.

JHMEG wrote: »

he is actually an expert on the subject...

wouldn't claim that, but would know a fair bit about them.

squod

colm_mcm wrote: »

you obviously are ill informed if you reckon a 1.8 Rav4 is hard to sell,

Also, if you're looking at a 2001 diesel, you have so much more scope for repair bills than on a petrol. They're very well built, but even something like a set of injectors, a turbo, or a flywheel on their own would make up about a quarter the price of this petrol one.

There's also the fact that the chepest diesel Rav4 on carzone is €6700 and has 100,000 miles. the next ones read 89,000/111,000/126,000/102,000. Anyone who paid the €6,500 extra for the diesel over the petrol new will have gotten the use out if it

To get a Rav4 diesel with the same mileage as the petrol model the OP is looking at, you need this one.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Rav4/2.0LD4D/200929194642755/advert?channel=CARS
which is €9,500 and a short wheelbase.


But then you probably knew that.

Yeah, there's a load of people out there looking to buy petrol jeeps, I can see the queue from here!



I'd try buy & sell if I was you, as well as carzone.
But then you probably knew that.

colm_mcm

Squod - Everything I need to say about Rav4s has been said, I'm not going to waste time arguing with you over something you don't seem to understand.

Orange69 -if you have any questions on the Rav, feel free to PM me.

squod

OP both sides of this story have been told.
Make your mind up yourself, I'm sure there's plenty more reviews done
on this car which are available online.

BTW I do understand.

JHMEG

colm_mcm wrote: »

nope. depends on the trim level and the actual body colour.

I give up!

Orange69

OP here, thanks for a great responses, from both sides :pac: !

I wasn't too sure about her decision with the rav 4 in fairness, she says that she just likes the look of it and has always been talking about having some form of a jeep. And she does tend to be dragging crap about the place a lot of the time.

I do have some reservations about getting a car this old ( although I currently own a 99 prelude, that's a whole other story ) but the mileage is great and 5k isnt going to break the bank. I send her a link to this thread and Ill see what she thinks.

BTW, what kind of running costs does a rav 4 entail..? She works maybe 6 miles from home and might go on the odd road trip out to the coast (< 200 miles) every month or so..

squod

Let me preface this by saying I'm no expert.

Can we round up the figures a little, to say 10,000 miles per year and not the seven or so you reckon you might do.

I reckon you'd burn about €1481 per year on petrol or €1010 per year on diesel. This is completely hypothetical of course and doesn't take into account any other costs of motoring and is based on todays fuel costs.

If your milage was higher you could see the benefits of diesel over petrol.
But they aren't. It's a close one.

JHMEG

squod wrote: »

I reckon you'd burn about €1481 per year on petrol or €1010 per year on diesel.

Currently diesel is 12c less than petrol. Expect the next budget to close that gap (diesel is taxed far less than petrol here, they're taxed equally in the UK).

Neither the diesel or the 1.8 petrol achieve super fuel economy anyway.

The diesel will cost slightly more to tax.

The 1.8 petrol is mechanically *far* simpler, meaning it will go wrong less often, and will cost buttons to fix in the unlikely event something should go wrong.

The petrol is way cheaper to buy.

Sorry, but the 1.8 petrol of this age is the no-brainer.