Lance watch

ednwireland

lyders wrote: »

Here's a sneak peak at the official 2010 Team RadioShack Trek Madone. http://bit.ly/4IcNzA

you were beaten to it

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055695290&page=48

godihatethehils

ednwireland wrote: »

you were beaten to it

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055695290&page=48

I think it was just an excuse to revive this thread....bravo!

lyders

Yeah!! I just love this thread!!!

petethedrummer

For the Lance Fans
http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2005/10/28lance-armstrong-1995-part-1/
http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2005/10/29lance-armstrong-1995-part-2/

godihatethehils

petethedrummer wrote: »

For the Lance Fans
http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2005/10/28lance-armstrong-1995-part-1/
http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2005/10/29lance-armstrong-1995-part-2/

haha, "how do you do better than you did this year...?"

How's about winning 7 Tours??

blorg

Lance Armstrong: “RadioShack isn’t just built around me”

Chips Lovell

It isn't built around him, it's built beneath him, towering colossus of cycling that he is.

IM0

32,000 hits and counting

that is all.

blorg

Lance to abandon doping controls in bid to beat Contador in the 2010 or 2011 Tour. "I'm not an idiot, it will be hard to beat him."

- New York Times

petethedrummer

Armstrong, who welcomed news the Giro d'Italia could start from Washington in 2012,

Thats a bit much isn't it??

lukester

I want to kick Lance in the nut. There. I said it.

blorg

lukester wrote: »

I want to kick Lance in the nut. There. I said it.

I thought you were a fan? Here's another picture of Lance shirtless to bring you round.

lukester

Phew, thanks blorg. I feel much better. Just sometimes I'm overcome with so much Lance love that I want to destroy him. It's some Freudian sh1t.

petethedrummer

Matthew McConnaughey has very short arms.

niceonetom

petethedrummer wrote: »

Matthew McConnaughey has very short arms.

Yeah. And he can't support his own weight while standing either. It's jogging or leaning against someone, those are his options...

Chips Lovell

blorg wrote: »

Lance to abandon doping controls in bid to beat Contador in the 2010 or 2011 Tour. "I'm not an idiot, it will be hard to beat him."

- New York Times

Armstrong,...also said he would end his independent doping controls and stop putting results online because they cause silly speculation and authorities test constantly anyway.

See, us internet people blew it. We were meant to greet his results with respectful silence and not discuss them.

petethedrummer wrote: »

Thats a bit much isn't it??

Stage one prologue around DC. Next three stages will be laps of an aircraft carrier as it crosses the Atlantic.

petethedrummer wrote: »

Matthew McConnaughey has very short arms.

Or a very long torso. Which he seemingly displays at every opportunity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYD2cwMbpw

Hungrycol

lyders wrote: »

Here's a sneak peak at the official 2010 Team RadioShack Trek Madone. http://bit.ly/4IcNzA

This dude can unscrew a BB with his bear hands :eek:

petethedrummer

el tonto wrote: »

See, us internet people blew it. We were meant to greet his results with respectful silence and not discuss them.

Especially when he changes a haematocrit reading from 45.8 to 43.1 with no explanation.

Chips Lovell

petethedrummer wrote: »

Especially when he changes a haematocrit reading from 45.8 to 43.1 with no explanation.

Now, now Pete, that's just silly speculation.

petethedrummer

Woops I drank to much haterade last night. I'm only jealous cos I don't have the heart of a 12ft moose.

blorg

Hungrycol wrote: »

This dude can unscrew a BB with his bear hands :eek:

The new Madone doesn't use a traditional bottom bracket, it uses bearings just dropped in to the frame, similar I think to how you put in the bearings on an integrated headset. So, yes, you can remove the BB with your bare hands!

petethedrummer

Hey Lance fans.

Looks like he's going to win the tour next year:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-wants-complete-control-over-tour-testing
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-abandons-independent-testing-publication-of-blood-values

RobFowl

petethedrummer wrote: »

Hey Lance fans.

Looks like he's going to win the tour next year:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-wants-complete-control-over-tour-testing
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-abandons-independent-testing-publication-of-blood-values

Hate to disagree but looks like the Schlek's will beat him to it

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/saxo-bank-ends-independent-testing-programme

petethedrummer

Well I suppose the drugs have well and truly been stamped out of cycling, so they might as well. Its only small time lads getting caught these days.

Well done to all involved.

petethedrummer

"It just takes one person to say - it could be a guy who graduated last in his class - you know what they call a guy who graduated last in his class at medical school? That's right, Doctor! So it could be a guy who just got out of college and has one journalist who listens and says these are suspicious," said Armstrong.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-abandons-independent-testing-publication-of-blood-values

Jakob Mørkeberg has written 10 peer-reviewed papers on blood doping within the past three years, and has completed a Master’s thesis entitled Autologous Blood Doping. He has just submitted a PhD dissertation Detection of Autologous Blood Transfusions via Analyses of Peripheral Blood Samples. One of his major goals as an anti-doping researcher is to find a method to detect such transfusions in sporting competitions such as the Tour de France.

He was involved in the running of the CSC and Astana anti-doping programmes until the end of 2008.

Bo Belhage is a chief anaestesiologist at Bispebjerg Hospital and has written 53 publications; of these, 41 are peer-reviewed, two peer-reviewed in press (pending) and 10 book chapters. He is a Doctor of Medical Science, an Associated Research Professor, and was also involved in the running of the CSC and Astana anti-doping programmes. He has been involved in science for 21 years.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/analysis-armstrongs-tour-blood-levels-debated

Last in the class indeed.

petethedrummer

"So we took them down after that because we had put them up all year long in the vein of complete transparency,
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-abandons-independent-testing-publication-of-blood-values

Lance’s current testing results
Sample Date Hemoglobin Hematocrit (%) OFF-score Hb z-score OFF z-score
Oct 6, 2008 15.5 43.7
Oct 16, 2008 14.3 39.3 83.3
Nov 26, 2008 15 42.8 87.6 0.7 0.27
Dec 3, 2008 14.4 41.9 89.3 -0.3 0.28
Dec 11, 2008 14.3 39.4 74.9 -0.3 -0.91
Dec 18, 2008 15.4 42.1 83.3 1.2 -0.04
Feb 4, 2009 15.2 45.8
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/lance-armstrongs-test-results-posted-online-20366




http://www.livestrong.com/lance-armstrong/blog/lance-armstrongs-drug-testing-results-4-7-2009/

BarryM

petethedrummer wrote: »

Well I suppose the drugs have well and truly been stamped out of cycling, so they might as well. Its only small time lads getting caught these days.

Well done to all involved.

Assuming tongue firmly in cheek

McQuaid is a total disgrace, there will be little or no testing in '10. One of the many books in French before/during this years Tour had a complete history of the dealings between the owners of l'Equipe, Amory Sports and McQuaid/UCI. One has to presume that McQ is getting his pockets filled by all and sundry......

sy

petethedrummer wrote: »

Lance’s current testing results
Sample Date Hemoglobin Hematocrit (%) OFF-score Hb z-score OFF z-score
Oct 6, 2008 15.5 43.7
Oct 16, 2008 14.3 39.3 83.3
Nov 26, 2008 15 42.8 87.6 0.7 0.27
Dec 3, 2008 14.4 41.9 89.3 -0.3 0.28
Dec 11, 2008 14.3 39.4 74.9 -0.3 -0.91
Dec 18, 2008 15.4 42.1 83.3 1.2 -0.04
Feb 4, 2009 15.2 45.8http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/lance-armstrongs-test-results-posted-online-20366




http://www.livestrong.com/lance-armstrong/blog/lance-armstrongs-drug-testing-results-4-7-2009/

Probably a typo

JacksonHeightsOwn

BarryM wrote: »

Assuming tongue firmly in cheek

McQuaid is a total disgrace, there will be little or no testing in '10. One of the many books in French before/during this years Tour had a complete history of the dealings between the owners of l'Equipe, Amory Sports and McQuaid/UCI. One has to presume that McQ is getting his pockets filled by all and sundry......

a paddy taking a drop?

never :rolleyes:

petethedrummer

sy wrote: »

Probably a typo

hmmm yeah. Well since the UCI can't release the true results on the date in question without the athlete's permission we'll have to for Lance to:
1. Give an explanation (he's all for tranparency you know)
2. Scan the actual results sheet and post it up
3. Request the UCI release the results themselves, if he doesn't have a scanner.

Slideshowbob

BarryM wrote: »

Assuming tongue firmly in cheek

McQuaid is a total disgrace, there will be little or no testing in '10. One of the many books in French before/during this years Tour had a complete history of the dealings between the owners of l'Equipe, Amory Sports and McQuaid/UCI. One has to presume that McQ is getting his pockets filled by all and sundry......

That comment about McQ looks very libelous ......... Moderators???

RobFowl

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/TeamRadioShack?ref=pymk

For all Lance fans on facebook ........

hinault

Slideshowbob wrote: »

That comment about McQ looks very libelous ......... Moderators???

What?

McQuaid is UCI El Presidente - he should be trying to eradicate doping.

Instead........................


Incidentally I know McQuaid well.
I well remember our indoor training team sessions in Alexandra College back in da'80's.
In fairness to McQuaid he was a good coach.

Chips Lovell

Boy, someone's really throwing the toys out of their pram today:

"If you have just won the Tour for the second time and you are the king of Spain, it is normal that all stories are all right. His career has barely begun. Let us talk again in about fifteen years.”

"eight of the nine riders who rode the Tour, have gone away. To another team. Even his roommate."

“I am impressed by the athlete but it stops there for me.”

ednwireland

el tonto wrote: »

Boy, someone's really throwing the toys out of their pram today:

"If you have just won the Tour for the second time and you are the king of Spain, it is normal that all stories are all right. His career has barely begun. Let us talk again in about fifteen years.”

"eight of the nine riders who rode the Tour, have gone away. To another team. Even his roommate."

“I am impressed by the athlete but it stops there for me.”

every time he twitters these days i lose more and more respect for his achievements and for the man, just wish he'd disappear at this point and leave the rest of us to watching cycling

sighs

blorg

el tonto wrote: »

Boy, someone's really throwing the toys out of their pram today:

"If you have just won the Tour for the second time and you are the king of Spain, it is normal that all stories are all right. His career has barely begun. Let us talk again in about fifteen years.”

"eight of the nine riders who rode the Tour, have gone away. To another team. Even his roommate."

“I am impressed by the athlete but it stops there for me.”

I sort of get the impression he doesn't like Contador very much.

All the more impressive that he selflessly sacrificed his chances to work in support for Contador during the Tour.

Chips Lovell

To put my serious hat on for a second, I reckon this was far more calculated it it may have sounded. I think he believes that he can get under Contador's skin with this kind of stuff. Armstrong saw him ride a little rashly in Paris - Nice last year and probably thinks that if he winds him up enough he might throw away the Tour by being impulsive and launching way too many attacks.

Diarmuid

el tonto wrote: »

To put my serious hat on for a second, I reckon this was far more calculated it it may have sounded. I think he believes that he can get under Contador's skin with this kind of stuff. Armstrong saw him ride a little rashly in Paris - Nice last year and probably thinks that if he winds him up enough he might throw away the Tour by being impulsive and launching way too many attacks.

It might be calculated but it doesn't stop LA coming across as a wanker in that article

Chips Lovell

Diarmuid wrote: »

It might be calculated but it doesn't stop LA coming across as a wanker in that article

Goes without saying alright. You get the feeling that he is losing touch with the big picture a little. Having said that, he seems as popular as ever with his core fan base in the US. They really seem to drink up the Lance vs. perfidious Euros thing.

I guarantee you, in the unlikely event of his DNA being found on that Astana medical stuff found by the French authorities, a huge number of them will believe that he was stiched up by the French.

andun84

el tonto wrote: »

Goes without saying alright. You get the feeling that he is losing touch with the big picture a little. Having said that, he seems as popular as ever with his core fan base in the US. They really seem to drink up the Lance vs. perfidious Euros thing.

I guarantee you, in the unlikely event of his DNA being found on that Astana medical stuff found by the French authorities, a huge number of them will believe that he was stiched up by the French.

And would we have to blame for that? The French have never done themselves any favours in respect of Armstrong. They should have shut up until they had evidence instead they carried out a witch hunt against him. In that light those that are supportive of him are likely to treat any new allegations simply as more of the same.

Chips Lovell

Seriously, how does this class as a witch hunt?

petethedrummer

el tonto wrote: »

I guarantee you, in the unlikely event of his DNA being found on that Astana medical stuff found by the French authorities, a huge number of them will believe that he was stiched up by the French.

If there is any stitch up, there is only one person's DNA gonna be found on that equipment. How could anyone be so careless as to thow it in the hotel rubbish like that? Its so stupid you'd think it was planned.

ednwireland

el tonto wrote: »

To put my serious hat on for a second, I reckon this was far more calculated it it may have sounded. I think he believes that he can get under Contador's skin with this kind of stuff. Armstrong saw him ride a little rashly in Paris - Nice last year and probably thinks that if he winds him up enough he might throw away the Tour by being impulsive and launching way too many attacks.

cant disagree with any of that my guess is lance thinks that he cant beat a fully fit contador /schleck/ whoever else comes up (hope its wiggins but i worry he may be a one hit wonder), and thinks the best thing he can do is undermine him and his team before the race. best thing alberto can do is just not respond

tunney

petethedrummer wrote: »

Lance’s current testing results
Sample Date Hemoglobin Hematocrit (%) OFF-score Hb z-score OFF z-score
Oct 6, 2008 15.5 43.7
Oct 16, 2008 14.3 39.3 83.3
Nov 26, 2008 15 42.8 87.6 0.7 0.27
Dec 3, 2008 14.4 41.9 89.3 -0.3 0.28
Dec 11, 2008 14.3 39.4 74.9 -0.3 -0.91
Dec 18, 2008 15.4 42.1 83.3 1.2 -0.04
Feb 4, 2009 15.2 45.8
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/lance-armstrongs-test-results-posted-online-20366




http://www.livestrong.com/lance-armstrong/blog/lance-armstrongs-drug-testing-results-4-7-2009/

I am no Lance fan buts >40 is no biggie. Mine was the same last year.

Caroline_ie

French people are evil, it's well known, they are all involved in a conspiration that will lead to the poor innocent Lance's destruction.
I am sure even Jim Corr will come out and denounce it! It's all part of the New World Order conspiracy, so are the Eurocyclists!!!! ... we will ruuulle the World!!!! Muahahaha!

Diarmuid

tunney wrote: »

I am no Lance fan buts >40 is no biggie. Mine was the same last year.

I think it was more involved than being larger than 40

petethedrummer

tunney wrote: »

I am no Lance fan buts >40 is no biggie. Mine was the same last year.

Its not that its over 40. It was changed from 45.8 which I would guess is approaching a suspicious value down to 43.1, with no explanation. If it was a typo then that's all they had to say. But no reason has been given.

Just to clarify...the changed value I was referring to was in February, not during the tour. I've read that other values have been changed over the course of the season, but I don't know which ones.

The suspicious tour values being discussed relate mostly to a spike in hematocrit on a rest day.

Diarmuid

el tonto wrote: »

Seriously, how does this class as a witch hunt?

Because his holiness is involved.

blorg

A lot of silly speculation going on in this thread.

Chips Lovell

blorg wrote: »

A lot of silly speculation going on in this thread.

+1 We should all know by now that we're not allowed to talk about Lance's blood on the internets. If we hadn't, he'd still be doing his testing programme. The sport of cycling is clearly the loser in all of this and we're to blame.