Liverpool V Stoke Match Thread

Dub13

I think this game is going to be very important for Liverpool,it was against teams like Stoke were we lost the league last season we just could not brake down the teams who came to Anfield and put 11 men behind the ball.

I hope Yossi starts.This game is not on the box but a few pubs have it on.

mayordenis

Massively huge gigantic game is rather big.

meditraitor

Is this been shown on TV? I cant see it listed on sky or setanta:o

mayordenis

meditraitor wrote: »

Is this been shown on TV? I cant see it listed on sky or setanta:o

nope not being shown on your televisual boxtroid.

Dub13

meditraitor wrote: »

Is this been shown on TV? I cant see it listed on sky or setanta:o

No its not on the box,some pubs with the dodgy Asian stations have it.

mayordenis

I'm sure we'll have a couple of decent streams doing the rounds anyway

Headshot

draw

prendy

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm sure we'll have a couple of decent streams doing the rounds anyway

do you promise?:)


anyway!

i want to see the following:
--lucas
---gerrard--
kuyt--yossi---babel
--torres


reason:

its the kind of game masc shouldnt be needed and lucas will create more going forward, while breaking up whatever stoke play through the middle.

I'm giving Babel one more chance. i want to see some aggression and passion in his play tonight. If he can get a goal and get his confidence up like lucas i think he will be a big player for us.

Yossi in my oppinion has to start, he's exactly the type of player to break down the stoke rearguard. With 11 men behind the ball Stevie's run's are going to be limited and torres will do well to find space. Yossi's quick feet and ability to beat a man will be vital.

my prediction:

hopefully we can get an early goal and if we do i could see us winning by 3. if we dont score early i could see another nervous 90.

3-0
yossi x2
torres

angel01

Hopefully Stoke will do the business!

mayordenis

Headshot wrote: »

draw

I'm shocked by your unbiased prediction, I had you pegged all wrong.

whatawaster

I don’t agree at all with the thinking that Mascherano is not needed for games like this.
Stoke are a physical side, and we need his power and energy in midfield so we aren’t overrun like on Sunday.

My team would be:

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Reina

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Johnson

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Carragher

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Skrtel

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Insua

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Mascherano

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Lucas

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Kuyt

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Gerrard

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Benayoun

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Torres

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Boggles

Stoke are a team more than happy to give the opposition the ball, defend from the front and hoof it forward.

Pulis plays 4-4-2 and thats basically it, can see Fuller and Beatie giving the Scouse defense alot of hassle.

Delap as usual to cause confusion in the box.

Stoke to take the lead, put 8 in their box, but the Scouse will equalise.

1-1

mayordenis

I'm going to say it's a draw because I'm a united fan. Played you hand very nicely this morning boyos.

Dont be at yourself

I'd go for whatawaster's team, though Benayoun and Insua won't offer a lot of width on the left. I wouldn't mind giving Babel another go out there either.

prendy

whatawaster wrote: »

I don’t agree at all with the thinking that Mascherano is not needed for games like this.
Stoke are a physical side, and we need his power and energy in midfield so we aren’t overrun like on Sunday.

My team would be:

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Reina

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Johnson

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Carragher

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Skrtel

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Insua

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Mascherano

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Lucas

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Kuyt

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Gerrard

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Benayoun

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Torres

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i dont thing skrtel is going to make it?

Boggles

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm going to say it's a draw because I'm a united fan. Played you hand very nicely this morning boyos.

Or I looked at the previous 2 meetings and watched the Scouse inability to create anything on Sunday and came to the conclusion that a draw is a good possibilty.

Havn't seen your prediction on the thread yet Denis?

Headshot

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm going to say it's a draw because I'm a united fan. Played you hand very nicely this morning boyos.

actually I did say last night in the gambling thread that i see the liverpool v stoke game ending in a draw

PiE

whatawaster wrote: »

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Mascherano

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Lucas

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Kuyt

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Gerrard

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Benayoun

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Torres

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I'd go for the same, except I'd push Lucas up closer to Gerrard.

Dont be at yourself

prendy wrote:

i dont thing skrtel is going to make it?

Might play with a face mask, apparently.

mayordenis

Boggles wrote: »

Or I looked at the previous 2 meetings and watched the Scouse inability to create anything on Sunday and came to the conclusion that a draw is a good possibilty.

Havn't seen your prediction on the thread yet Denis?

It's got draw written all over it tbh. but I'm going to say 4-0.

Headshot wrote: »

actually I did say last night in the gambling thread that i see the liverpool v stoke game ending in a draw

That's fine, more than anything I want you to make money is all, but you throw it away if you like.

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mayordenis wrote: »

I'm going to say it's a draw because I'm a united fan. Played you hand very nicely this morning boyos.

Bollox tbh.

This is a game which a stronger Liverpool of last season couldn't win, so a prediction of a draw is perfectly reasonable.

In fact, the absolute biased nature of Liverpool fans taking the hump because someone dare predict that they might not win a match is cringeworthy.

mayordenis

Des wrote: »

Bollox tbh.

This is a game which a stronger Liverpool of last season couldn't win, so a prediction of a draw is perfectly reasonable.

In fact, the absolute biased nature of Liverpool fans taking the hump because someone dare predict that they might not win a match is cringeworthy.

Will ya ever take your nonsense parade elsewhere,
I hardly took the hump, very jovial altogether.

Although I do think you are wrong, both in this thread and in life.

mike65

Keep it up!

Wouldn't have Lucas or Babel near this game if it can be avoided. With any luck Reira will be okay to start.

I'd go 4-4-2.

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mayordenis wrote: »

Although I do think you are wrong, both in this thread and in life.

No need to get personal now.:rolleyes:

mayordenis

Des wrote: »

No need to get personal now.:rolleyes:

I'm not being personal I'm trying to be obtuse, but that would be lost on the likes of you :pac: /personal.

whatawaster

Boggles wrote: »

Or I looked at the previous 2 meetings and watched the Scouse inability to create anything on Sunday and came to the conclusion that a draw is a good possibilty.

Havn't seen your prediction on the thread yet Denis?

Is Riera injured?

We created plenty in this fixture last year and it was a miracle it ended 0-0. It was the away match we were terrible in.

I think it will be 2-0

NabyLadistheman

Boggles wrote: »

Or I looked at the previous 2 meetings and watched the Scouse inability to create anything on Sunday and came to the conclusion that a draw is a good possibilty.

Havn't seen your prediction on the thread yet Denis?

I recall plenty being created in both games. Dis-allowed goals, post being hit on more than one occasion, incredible saves. Your talking through your behind as usual


Liverpool 0 - 0 Stoke City September 20

75.7% Possession 24.3%
30 Shots 2

Karmafaerie

I'd love to see 4-3-3.
Johnson and Insua can provide the width.

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Reina

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Carra

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Skrtel (hopefully)

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Johnson

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Insua

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Masch

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Gerrard

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Lucas

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Kuyt

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Benni/Babel

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Nando

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Crash Bang Wall

3 points, dont care if its 1-0 3-0 or 5-4.

We need to get some points on the board

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torresistheman wrote: »

I recall plenty being created in both games. Dis-allowed goals, post being hit on more than one occasion, incredible saves. Your talking through your behind as usual


Liverpool 0 - 0 Stoke City September 20

75.7% Possession 24.3%
30 Shots 2

All very well.

But he was talking about Liverpool being unable to create even a half chance on Sunday against Spurs.

mayordenis

Des wrote: »

All very well.

But he was talking about Liverpool being unable to create even a half chance on Sunday against Spurs.

Changy McChangy story and the Change brigade.
But for sure we were pretty shocking the other day and as such we will not create a chance all season, that is how it works after all your first game of the season will be replicated 37 more times and you will have the exact same outcome and turn of events in every match.

zing

Full commentary on 5live xtra if you can't get a decent stream.

NabyLadistheman

Des wrote: »

All very well.

But he was talking about Liverpool being unable to create even a half chance on Sunday against Spurs.

Yes but in the context of Boggle's quote it is extremely relevant

mike65

I see dead, banned people.

Mr Alan

Tony Pulis wrote:

Players like Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano, Carragher, Skrtel and LUCAS are all outstanding. In fact you can just keep going, the list is endless, they have so much quality in there.

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10310~1759668,00.html

too right Tony, too right.

Boggles

Jesus lads, why is my opinion on the result being debated.

I gave my reasons and a prediction, which is far more realistic than some on here.

We will know at 10 tonight either way.

Headshot

Mr Alan wrote: »

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10310~1759668,00.html

too right Tony, too right.

bloody hell what is he smoking

mayordenis

Boggles wrote: »

Jesus lads, why is my opinion on the result being debated.

I gave my reasons and a prediction, which is far more realistic than some on here.

We will know at 10 tonight either way.

Take it as a compliment.

Mr Alan

Headshot wrote: »

bloody hell what is he smoking

in fairness, he's right.

Boggles

Mr Alan wrote: »

in fairness, he's right.

You think Lucas is outstanding?

Mr Alan

an outstanding young player, yep.

mayordenis

Boggles wrote: »

You think Lucas is outstanding?

I think I speak for everyone in the world when I say yes, including you Boggles.

Headshot

Boggles wrote: »

You think Lucas is outstanding?

bloody hell I was knocked back by Mr Alans post

got to love Mr Alan always slagging ando and then he has the nerve to say lucas is outstanding

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Headshot wrote: »

bloody hell I was knocked back by Mr Alans post

got to love Mr Alan always slagging ando and then he has the nerve to say lucas is outstanding

LolLucas and Ando are about at the same level, to be fair.

zAbbo

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm not being personal I'm trying to be obtuse, but that would be lost on the likes of you :pac: /personal.

Mr Alan

yep, both outstanding young players.

funny cause last year Utd fans were claiming that Anderson was among the best around & **** on Fabregas/Gerrard etc-thats what i take exception to.

if they continue to develop they could be a couple of the best around in a few years.

Boggles

Mr Alan wrote: »

yep, both outstanding young players.

funny cause last year Utd fans were claiming that Anderson was among the best around & **** on Fabregas/Gerrard etc-thats what i take exception to.

if they continue to develop they could be a couple of the best around in a few years.

So Lucas is not outstanding. He may in a couple of years, but he isn't now?

Do you still think Pulis is right?

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Mr Alan wrote: »

funny cause last year Utd fans were claiming that Anderson was among the best around & **** on Fabregas/Gerrard etc-thats what i take exception to.

They are still singing that.

Ever heard of the phrase "tongue-in-cheek" Al?

Mr Alan wrote: »

if they continue to develop they could be a couple of the best around in a few years.

You see this is where we differ. I think Lucas has hit a ceiling. Ando has not.

whatawaster

Des wrote: »

You see this is where we differ. I think Lucas has hit a ceiling. Ando has not.

So, at 22 he’s reached his footballing peak?

Mr Alan

Des wrote: »

They are still singing that.

Ever heard of the phrase "tongue-in-cheek" Al?

the song may be tongue in cheek, but we all know how over-rated he was for the last 18 months (a bit of realism is starting to occur now), the simple fact is Utd fans rated (some still do) as one of the best in the league-which was comical.

Des wrote: »

You see this is where we differ. I think Lucas has hit a ceiling. Ando has not.

really?
cause one of them is improving all the time, and it aint Anderson-its the one that didn't cost 18m.

Boggles wrote: »

So Lucas is not outstanding. He may in a couple of years, but he isn't now?

Do you still think Pulis is right?

Go away & annoy someone else, i'm tired today boggles.

NukaCola

Dont see Stoke scoring at all , even after the poor defensive display sunday, but i do fear another 0-0. A draw would be bad, a loss devastating, I'll go for a good responce from Liverpool after the dissapointment from the weekend. 2-0 Liverpool win.