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Name and shame the Rip-Off Merchants here!!!!
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20-08-2009 11:45am#1The recession is now a depression and there's a lot of talk of prices falling with some evidence of same here and there - but this thread is about the greedy Folks out there who are charging incredibly inflated prices for products which in my opinion they are usually themselves getting for half nothing.
My personal recommendation has to be The Art and Hobby shop which according to their Website is located in 15 locations around the Country. My own experience of them though comes from their sorry operation in the Crescent Shopping Centre, Dooradoyle, Limerick.
In my opinion everything in there is so unbelievably expensive that its actually beyond belief. I have no idea who is daft or desperate enough to pay their insane prices but they are somehow still in business, so people must be handing them money for some reason :eek:
- I will also say that the attitude of the staff there is absolutely appalling, they treat you as though you are the worst ever inconvenience and can barely conceal their contempt for you as they tolerate your annoying queries etc.
Below are some examples of their cynical, greedy, unbelievable pricing - lets see what I can buy there for €100 will we?
Oh fcuk I just blew a full €50 or half my budget on a crappy wall chart that looks like it was made in Taiwan for 99 cents. Oh well, still have another €50 to spend....
I'd love to buy this huge value box of 6 paints as I hear Van Gogh recommended a mere 6 colours as sufficient for most artworks - but its an incredible €60 for this comprehensive collection of 6 paints [?]
I definitely don't have €150 to spend on a Unicycle - but I'm not too sad about that because I just found the exact same product here for €75. I wonder how many more of their products are retailed to the unsuspecting and trusting Consumer for double what other seemingly more honest retailers are selling them for???
I think I'm just going to have to go 10% over my original budget because this ingenious few bits of wood and some assorted fabric is only €60 euro
- What a massive bargain!!!!
So there you go a marvellous wallchart and a wonderful wood and fabric yoke all for a recession beating €110.
Bring it all to the till and get condescended to and insulted by some ignorant Gobshíte that treats you like you just reversed over her kitten.
- Welcome to the sorry state of Retail in modern Ireland.2
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Since when are we in a depression?
Nobody is ripping anyone off, at the end of the day you as a consumer DO NOT HAVE TO buy from the shop in question, your job as a consumer is to shop around this is your only basic task before buying an item.
IF however your too lazy or stupid to shop around then you deserve to pay the stupidity tax of paying extra for an item or service that can be obtained cheaper elsewhere.
In respect of prices and shops, at end of the day a shop is not breaking any laws by selling an item for say 10e that can be obtained elsewhere for 7e, just like I can buy an item for 10e and resell it for 40e...if someone buys it then happy days for me.
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Since when are we in a depression?
Nobody is ripping anyone off, at the end of the day you as a consumer DO NOT HAVE TO buy from the shop in question, your job as a consumer is to shop around this is your only basic task before buying an item.
IF however your too lazy or stupid to shop around then you deserve to pay the stupidity tax of paying extra for an item or service that can be obtained cheaper elsewhere.
In respect of prices and shops, at end of the day a shop is not breaking any laws by selling an item for say 10e that can be obtained elsewhere for 7e, just like I can buy an item for 10e and resell it for 40e...if someone buys it then happy days for me.
We're in a depression since May - where are you living anyhow?
While nobody can really criticise your argument on its merits, I can't say I share your perception of this type of cynical profiteering, morally dubious activity.
- Its a fact that sensible people can end up spending considerable sums of cash as gifts/through a sense of obligation etc. without actually realising that they have been ripped-off - sometimes in a huge way.......0 -
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While nobody can really criticise your argument on its merits, I can't say I share your perception of this type of cynical profiteering, morally dubious activity.
- Its a fact that sensible people can end up spending considerable sums of cash as gifts/through a sense of obligation etc. without actually realising that they have been ripped-off - sometimes in a huge way.......
Its not morally dubious at all its something thats been in existence since man first bartered an item for something else, if the seller believes they can get more for the item then they will do this.
Human's have been doing this for 1000's of years, do you honestly think that LCD tv you buy costs 500e to make it....no of course not, same for cost of your shoes, clothes, etc
Its called making a profit, every single item is marked up generally by a few 100's percentages
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"technically" in a depression and in a depression are not the same thing, ECB doesn't see Ireland in a depression for starters
As such what your stating is inaccurate and "technically" misleading 0 -
Its not morally dubious at all its something thats been in existence since man first bartered an item for something else, if the seller believes they can get more for the item then they will do this.
Human's have been doing this for 1000's of years, do you honestly think that LCD tv you buy costs 500e to make it....no of course not, same for cost of your shoes, clothes, etc
Its called making a profit, every single item is marked up generally by a few 100's percentages"technically" in a depression and in a depression are not the same thing, ECB doesn't see Ireland in a depression for starters
As such what your stating is inaccurate and "technically" misleading
Arghh !!!! The patronising tone and patient bludgeoning with basics is evoking rage
- Tell me Cabaal; Do people ever sporadically grab you by the throat with both hands and then throttle you?0 -
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"technically" in a depression and in a depression are not the same thing, ECB doesn't see Ireland in a depression for starters
As such what your stating is inaccurate and "technically" misleading
You know that not only are you adding NOTHING to the thread,you're dragging it off topic?0 -
Its not morally dubious at all its something thats been in existence since man first bartered an item for something else, if the seller believes they can get more for the item then they will do this.
Human's have been doing this for 1000's of years, do you honestly think that LCD tv you buy costs 500e to make it....no of course not, same for cost of your shoes, clothes, etc
Its called making a profit, every single item is marked up generally by a few 100's percentages
So what you are saying is that if we can get away with selling something for more than face value or what it is worth because someone is willing to pay whatever then it is just fine to do.
How come then, using your logic, that Ticket Touts get such a bad wrap? After all it is just supply and demand surely going on what you are saying? They bought the tickets at the correct price, but because people NEED these tickets and they are willing to pay over the odds which is what the "Touts" are asking, it morally reprehensible.
I'm not understanding your logic here.0 -
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So what you are saying is that if we can get away with selling something for more than face value or what it is worth because someone is willing to pay whatever then it is just fine to do.
Nothing illegal about selling something about its normal lower price,How come then, using your logic, that Ticket Touts get such a bad wrap? After all it is just supply and demand surely going on what you are saying? They bought the tickets at the correct price, but because people NEED these tickets and they are willing to pay over the odds which is what the "Touts" are asking, it morally reprehensible.
I'm not understanding your logic here.
honk05 has already explained this, your mixing up law and morals they are not the same thing as people morals differ wildly 0 -
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You know that not only are you adding NOTHING to the thread,you're dragging it off topic?
Its relevant to the thread as the OP did state we are in a depression,
Of course if you have an issue with my post you should report the post and let a mod deal with it instead of back seat modding
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Its relevant to the thread as the OP did state we are in a depression,
Of course if you have an issue with my post you should report the post and let a mod deal with it instead of back seat modding
I'm not back seat modding,i have a pain in my hole with you splitting hairs and dragging things off topic.0 -
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I'm not back seat modding,i have a pain in my hole with you splitting hairs and dragging things off topic.
This is a discussion forum, I am simply posting what is legally allowed within business's in Ireland when it comes to selling an item, I'm sorry if you dislike reality and actual facts in respect of this.
A shop can legally sell an item for whatever amount extra over another shop, its not illegal plan and simple the fact that within your morals you see it wrong does not mean its morally wrong for everyone else.
In addition bricks and mortar shops will generally sell higher then online because they have higher overheads thats a fact of life sadly.
Bottom line is as a consumer your only basic responsibility before buying an item is to use that gray matter of yours between your ears to shop around, if you don't want to shop around then that's your fault.
Anybody however that refers to shops as illegal etc because they sell higher priced items needs to be brought back to reality.The last couple of threads I've seen Cabal post on has been anal fixations and hair splitting and random off topicness : /
Got a problem with my posts then please report then, I wouldn't personally recommend dragging a thread off topic by having a go about other users you don't happen to agree with.An example for myself is recently trying to pick up a graphics card for my pc. I've noticed any walk in shop in Ireland has a **** range of cards at outragous prices.
I was looking for an ATI Radeon 4870HD with vapor core, and after hitting up harveynormam,pc world, currys and a number of individual pc stores, the lowest price offered was 230 by an individual outlet.
This card retails for €130 on a number of irish based online stores.
I actually very happy for you as you fulfilled your basic consumer responsibility by shopping around, I'm glad you bought the item for a much lower price then your first saw.
But on the other side of things on-line shops won't always be the cheapest all the time, take for example last year I bought a Satnav it was 120e on komplett and 120e in Halfords.
However even if it was 130e in Halfords it was still cheaper then komplett as you must remember to factor in shipping costsI get similar questions in my job regarding pricing etc, since alot of our competitors are located close by. You have to take into account overheads for products pricing like wages, bills, rent VAt, import duty etc.
I fully agree with you, people forget this completely when they complain about higher prices in shops.
Its a basic fact costs are higher as they have to cover these costs, however this doesn't stop people from comparing bricks and mortar shops and on-line shops as exactly the same when they are not.This threads aim is to make people aware of certain places that will rip you off on products, where you can easily buy elsewhere. However not alot of people may now.
Its shocking the amount of people who are not aware of the hundreds you can save on pc parts by shopping online. Granted I know its not supporting an irish business, I do not feel the need to when they cannot offer a good range of products, yet price their low- middle level items are hi end prices.
I don't believe necessarily singling out a shop here or there is a very productive practice at the end of the day, what we should be doing however is encouraging people to just shop around and compare prices and actually learn to do this in general if they want to make sure they get the best prices.
Yes shopping around takes abit of time but its a more valuable skill to learn then simply avoiding one or two retailers and using the third because you saw them mentioned on a thread on boards.ie.0 -
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