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Ryanair pulling out of Manchester

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    Seaneh
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    Er, except for all the jobs that the region loses because of it...

    Ryanair are right in this case imho.


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    civildefence
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Er, except for all the jobs that the region loses because of it...

    Ryanair are right in this case imho.

    The loss of jobs excepted.
    I hate them, i'm sorry but I utterly hate them and I'd love to see them getting their comeuppance. They have destroyed my soul on so many occasions. It'd be great to see an airline like Aer Arann coming in there and growing its operations.


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    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Pulling out of Feurteventura was the fault of the tourist board, pulling out of valencia was because unfair subsidies were given to a rival airline, cutting down at Stansted was the fault of the airport, as was cutting right down on flights from manchester.

    the whole world must be against Ryanair, or they are doing something wrong.


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    Tabnabs
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    If you ran an airline and customer numbers were down to the extent that it was no longer profitable to run a route, what would you do... ;)


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    civildefence
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    Dyflin wrote: »
    If you ran an airline and customer numbers were down to the extent that it was no longer profitable to run a route, what would you do... ;)

    Yet they always waffle on about how small Aer Lingus is and how they "can't survive". They are in the same boat and yet Aer Lingus has no issue with the landing charges in Manchester.


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    Tenger
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    Dyflin wrote: »
    If you ran an airline and customer numbers were down to the extent that it was no longer profitable to run a route, what would you do... ;)

    Pax numbers on their routes ex-MAN are not down too much. FR are just trying to get the most return on their routes by bullying airports to drop their fees. Most smaller airports must accept the terms demanded by FR,however MAN as a larger airport can afford to refuse to bow to the demands of FR.

    Notice how FR aren't dropping the lucrative DUB-MAN route,I think its their 4th most profitable. How can that be when the fees at MAN are so high? And don't they call DUB a 'high charges' airport too?


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    silverharp
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    at least they wont have to listen:D to this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1KnBmFDrZY

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    Bluetonic
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    civildefence wrote: »
    Yet they always waffle on about how small Aer Lingus is and how they "can't survive". They are in the same boat and yet Aer Lingus has no issue with the landing charges in Manchester.
    They have no issue with it, is that right?


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    civildefence
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    They have no issue with it, is that right?

    They're paying it aren't they?


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    alpha2zulu
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    It was reported on another travel news (Travel gazette I think) site that the disagreement centred on FR refusing Manchesters offer of a 3GBP charge per departing passenger which seems to be great value given Manchesters position as a established and well connected airport.

    Bear in mind that out of that 3 quid,all firefighting/rescue, security and airfield personnel have to be paid for aswell as upkeep and cleaning of the terminals etc so its not exactly an unreaonable charge.


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    highlydebased
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    Cawley said not so long ago "they have a problem accepting anything thats not free at the moment...."...

    unfortunately thats what happened at Shannon....paying 1 euro or whatever per pax then looking to milk the SAA by asking for free fees for the winter which they thankfully didnt give

    Well I say fair play to manchester for givin them the 2 fingers anyway!!


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    Bluetonic
    Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    civildefence wrote: »
    They're paying it aren't they?
    I just want to clarify your statement.

    They have no issue, is that correct?


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    civildefence
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    I just want to clarify your statement.

    They have no issue, is that correct?

    Why don't you enlighten us. You obviously want to tell me i'm wrong. So go ahead and put your two cents in. I don't think my wording will compromise the subject matter of the thread.


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    N2
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    Neon-Circles wrote: »
    Cawley said not so long ago "they have a problem accepting anything thats not free at the moment...."...

    unfortunately thats what happened at Shannon....paying 1 euro or whatever per pax then looking to milk the SAA by asking for free fees for the winter which they thankfully didnt give

    Well I say fair play to manchester for givin them the 2 fingers anyway!!


    Commercial reality i'm afraid, i would have thought your "research" into long haul op's ex SNN would have confirmed that!


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    highlydebased
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    N2 wrote: »
    Commercial reality i'm afraid, i would have thought your "research" into long haul op's ex SNN would have confirmed that!


    Was not "my" research but indeed thats true


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