HOW AND WHY

CyrildoSquirrel

maybe i am being a bit ignorant,but can someone tell me why, a driver side window that doesnt go up or down constitutes failing the nct test.

i asked why it failed and he told me it was because "the window would break if i was in a crash"..so i replied so would the window not smash if it was working.

bit of a joke if you ask me

Satts

Yes it is a bit of a joke.

But, I crashed my car during the frosty mornings we had in January.
I landed upside down in a drain. I couldn't open the doors, they were stuck in the undergrowth. I climbed out a window. I was glad my windows were working.
Just thinking if the car was on fire, how glad I would be that the windows were working.

mickdw

Drivers window is pretty important to be honest

Paying tolls, carpark entrances, Talking to gardai at checkpoint.
Also, its part of the driving test to know your hand signals. These involve sticking hand out the window so I guess the open window is in theory needed for this also. Interesting, even Obamas car has an opening drivers window. They must have deemed it important as its the only window that opens on the most secure car .. .. .. in the world

BeardyGit

Satts wrote: »

Yes it is a bit of a joke.

But, I crashed my car during the frosty mornings we had in January.
I landed upside down in a drain. I couldn't open the doors, they were stuck in the undergrowth. I climbed out a window. I was glad my windows were working.
Just thinking if the car was on fire, how glad I would be that the windows were working.

Yep - Been there and done that myself. You're spot on.

Thoie

Satts wrote: »

Yes it is a bit of a joke.

But, I crashed my car during the frosty mornings we had in January.
I landed upside down in a drain. I couldn't open the doors, they were stuck in the undergrowth. I climbed out a window. I was glad my windows were working.
Just thinking if the car was on fire, how glad I would be that the windows were working.

Sorry for derailing, but say for some reason you couldn't open the window - how would you break a window from the inside? I can't think of anything that's normally within reach of the drivers side that I could break the window with - most of my shoes are soft soled.

CR 7

Thoie wrote: »

Sorry for derailing, but say for some reason you couldn't open the window - how would you break a window from the inside? I can't think of anything that's normally within reach of the drivers side that I could break the window with - most of my shoes are soft soled.

Your elbow.:cool:

Thoie

the_pm_of_17 wrote: »

Your elbow.:cool:

Dunno what kind of elbows you have, but mine won't break a car window. I think I have inferior elbows

BeardyGit

Get yourself a Lifesaver hammer in your local motorfactors.

Fit it properly with a could of self tapping screws, along the right hand side of the centre console or somewhere else you know you can reach it.

No point in putting it in a pocket/glovebox etc - It MUST be within reach, fixed in its holder so you can get to it if ever needed.

It'll also include a safety seatbelt cutter, in case your belt or a passengers is jammed....

Not just useful for you - You never know when someone else might need your help.

stratos

More interference by the nanny state, If I ended up upside down in the ditch, I would just lie there mentally adjusting the braking point on that awesome bend. Whats that smell ?

Satts

Thoie wrote: »

Sorry for derailing, but say for some reason you couldn't open the window - how would you break a window from the inside? I can't think of anything that's normally within reach of the drivers side that I could break the window with - most of my shoes are soft soled.

I suppose you could try and brace your self and kick out the back window.
And carry a fire extinguisher, if it doesn't put out the fire, you could always break the window with it.

Or better still, don't crash. But sometimes it just happens.
I drove for 17 years without a scratch and then one morning I ended upside down in a drain in the dark. And remember if you end up upside down, brace yourself before you release the seatbelt clip !:o

Buffman

It's one of the reasons in the NCT manual here. Always worth having a quick glance at that before putting a car in for the test to spot the simple things.

REASONS FOR FAILURE:
(1) Windscreen missing
(2) Windscreen not marked as safety glass.
(3) In vehicle registered on or after 1/1/86 windscreen is not
marked as shown in schedule 1 or to an equivalent standard.
(4) Objects or stickers in drivers direct line of vision.
(5) Damaged beyond acceptable limits. See page 18.
(6) Not marked as safety glass (if first registered after 1 July 1964).
(7) Insecure.
(8) Opening mechanism of drivers window not operating.
(9) Made of material likely, if fractured, to produce fragments
or capable of causing severe cuts.
(10) Side or rear windows damaged such that the drivers view is
restricted.

OP, I'd imagine it's easily (and cheaply) fixed. It is a free visual retest anyway.
I think it's one of the more sensible NCT requirements. Anyway, do you not find the broken window annoying?

If that's the only thing that failed, I'd be happy enough.

Gary ITR

OP common sense should have told you this would be a failure.

And also you're lucky you deleted that post otherwise you'd have had a nice week long break from the motors forum

Satts

Gil_Dub wrote: »

Get yourself a Lifesaver hammer in your local motorfactors.

Fit it properly with a could of self tapping screws, along the right hand side of the centre console or somewhere else you know you can reach it.

No point in putting it in a pocket/glovebox etc - It MUST be within reach, fixed in its holder so you can get to it if ever needed.

It'll also include a safety seatbelt cutter, in case your belt or a passengers is jammed....

Not just useful for you - You never know when someone else might need your help.

Excellent idea.

The idea of not being able to open the seatbelt didn't occur to me.
You've just given me something new to worry about now while I'm driving along.

CyrildoSquirrel

OP, I'd imagine it's easily (and cheaply) fixed. It is a free visual retest anyway.
I think it's one of the more sensible NCT requirements. Anyway, do you not find the broken window annoying?

If that's the only thing that failed, I'd be happy enough.[/quote]


thats what pissing me off the cheapest quote i could find so far is 250 lids

i dont have that at the mo.

CyrildoSquirrel

Onkle wrote: »

OP common sense should have told you this would be a failure.

And also you're lucky you deleted that post otherwise you'd have had a nice week long break from the motors forum

and that was my other half messing when i went to the toilet

pcardin

mickdw wrote: »

Drivers window is pretty important to be honest

Paying tolls, carpark entrances, Talking to gardai at checkpoint.
Also, its part of the driving test to know your hand signals. These involve sticking hand out the window so I guess the open window is in theory needed for this also. Interesting, even Obamas car has an opening drivers window. They must have deemed it important as its the only window that opens on the most secure car .. .. .. in the world

I think u are talking about LHD here.

Gary ITR

If you or a friend can use a screwdriver then it's an easy fix. You'll get the part in a breakers reasonably cheap I'd imagine

mickdw

pcardin wrote: »

I think u are talking about LHD here.

What are ya on about? LHD?