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  • 22-08-2009 12:52pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 609 ✭✭✭


    Hello
    I am planning to buy a new gaming rig. My budget is 2000 euros. I will be using this system predominantely for gaming purposes. I will also use it for watching DVD's, playing movies from the hard disk, downloading stuff (heavy downloader) , internet browsing and other related activities. I am planning to have both windows and Linux on the system. I have been doing a lot of research lately and have concluded with the following specs. i will be spending another 250 euros on a 22 inch monitor.
    1)What do u think of the specs?

    2)PLs let me know if you think the ASUS TRITON cooler is worth the while or should i go for another cooler?

    3)Also if someone could tell me a little more about SLI, i would appreciate it.

    4) What is your opinion about the sound card? is it any good?

    5) Please feel free to tell me your suggestions

    N.B: The price mentioned below is in pounds. With an additional 250 on a 22inch monitor i worked out the total to be 2000 euros which is my budget.



    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-3.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-4.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-6.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-7.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-8.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-9.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jez/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-10.jpg[/IMG]

    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Processor i7-920 (2.66GHz) 4.8GTs/8MB Cache
    Memory (RAM)
    6GB CORSAIR XMS3 1600MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (3x2GB)
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R:DDR3, 2-Way SLI & CrossFireX
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium 64-bit + Windows 7 Upgrade Voucher (£86)
    USB Options
    8 x USB 2.0 PORTS (6 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD
    Memory - 1st Hard Disk
    1.5TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
    2nd Hard Disk
    1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
    RAID (HDD 1 & 2)
    NONE
    1st CD/DVD Drive
    22x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM




    Graphics Card
    1792MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX295 PCI EXPRESS
    2nd Graphics Card
    NONE
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Audio PCI Express (£39)
    Modem
    NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND
    Network Facilities
    WIRELESS N 300Mbps PCI CARD (£16)
    Floppy Disk Drive
    NONE
    Memory Card Reader
    INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc)
    Case
    COOLERMASTER HAF 932 FULL TOWER BLACK GAMING PC CASE
    Power Supply & Case Cooling
    1010W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£129)
    Processor Cooling
    ASUS TRITON 81 PURE COPPER BASE ULTRA COOLER (£49)
    Firewire & Video Editing
    1 x IEEE 1394a FIREWIRE PORT ONBOARD
    Keyboard
    logitech keyboard -8 £

    Total Cost - 1522 £


Comments

  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    That build looks waaaaaay overpriced! Who the hell is putting it together?!?! :mad:

    Mismatched HDDs, naff sound card, overkill graphics, ridiculously overpriced CPU cooler (bad habit going there, Asus!) and I'm deeply suspicious about the PSU - if there's no brand names being mentioned then you're going to be given a PSU that's going to want to fry your PC. Its the way these twats operate :mad: And 1010(?)W is overkill to boot.

    For the best part of €1800 shipped this is a joke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Effluo


    Something else to note would be that i7's in gaming don't offer much of a performance boost.
    For nearly every game a reasonably priced(or overclocked cheapie) dual core is all you need.

    There are however a few exception like gta4 and Arma2(only a couple of others) which really require more than 2 cores to play. Even though the numbers of games which benefit from having more than 2 cores are increasing (allbeit v-slowly) people here would be inclined to recommend a quad core just for a wee bit of "futureproofing".

    I had futureproofing in inverted commas because it is often a fallacy....
    The only futurproofing step which makes much sense right now is getting the quad core.
    Or solid state drives offer a big increase in loading times(not a big issue on windows 7)


    I figure the best way to play the graphics cards is to get a reasonably priced one and then upgrade it every 18-24 months.
    The when gaming at 1920x1080 the ati 4890 for only 150euro on hardwareversand.de is quite unbeatable on value!
    That 295 will offer no great "noticable" benefits while costing in the region of 400euro...
    Also in 2 years time you'll need to upgrade that just as much as you'd need to upgrade the 4890.

    However If you really want to get an i7 build and a silly expensive graphics card, go ahead, but get it from hardwareversand.de though.

    Power supply should be more like a good brand 650watt psu btw, not 1010watt :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 609 ✭✭✭jmx009


    Solitaire wrote: »
    That build looks waaaaaay overpriced! Who the hell is putting it together?!?! :mad:

    Mismatched HDDs, naff sound card, overkill graphics, ridiculously overpriced CPU cooler (bad habit going there, Asus!) and I'm deeply suspicious about the PSU - if there's no brand names being mentioned then you're going to be given a PSU that's going to want to fry your PC. Its the way these twats operate :mad: And 1010(?)W is overkill to boot.

    For the best part of €1800 shipped this is a joke.


    What PSU make do you think i should go for?
    Effluo wrote: »
    Something else to note would be that i7's in gaming don't offer much of a performance boost.
    For nearly every game a reasonably priced(or overclocked cheapie) dual core is all you need.

    There are however a few exception like gta4 and Arma2(only a couple of others) which really require more than 2 cores to play. Even though the numbers of games which benefit from having more than 2 cores are increasing (allbeit v-slowly) people here would be inclined to recommend a quad core just for a wee bit of "futureproofing".

    I had futureproofing in inverted commas because it is often a fallacy....
    The only futurproofing step which makes much sense right now is getting the quad core.
    Or solid state drives offer a big increase in loading times(not a big issue on windows 7)


    I figure the best way to play the graphics cards is to get a reasonably priced one and then upgrade it every 18-24 months.
    The when gaming at 1920x1080 the ati 4890 for only 150euro on hardwareversand.de is quite unbeatable on value!
    That 295 will offer no great "noticable" benefits while costing in the region of 400euro...
    Also in 2 years time you'll need to upgrade that just as much as you'd need to upgrade the 4890.

    However If you really want to get an i7 build and a silly expensive graphics card, go ahead, but get it from hardwareversand.de though.

    Power supply should be more like a good brand 650watt psu btw, not 1010watt :(

    I appreciate the advice but i really want an i7 built. I always thought that the 4890 was inferior to the GTX295 ! PLz correct me if i am wrong.

    Also, i found that there are different makes of the same graphics card for eg there is a 427015.jpg ASUS GeForce GTX 295 1792MB PhysX CUDA


    and a 482629.jpg EVGA GeForce GTX 295 1792MB PhysX CUDA and


    482982.jpg Gainward GeForce GTX 295 1792MB PhysX

    what is the difference between them? I mean isnt Geforce GTX295 nvidias? whats the ASUS, EVGA and Gainward then? I found the same thing with ATI graphics cards too.

    What about the CPU cooler? Do u think i should change it too?

    BTW, I got the above specs from the website pcspecialist.co.uk


  • Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭meepins


    I'll be doing a similar type build soonish I hope. The benefits of getting the 295 aren't that great considering the next generation of cards are coming very shortly. I believe AMD/ATI are releasing theirs next month if the rumours are true or shortly thereafter.
    Most games can be handled quite comfortably by the cheaper cards like the 4890/ nvidia 275 etc.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    GTX295 is a bit of a false economy. Its basically a pair of GTX275 (~=HD4890) sandwiched together, and is even more expensive than a pair of said cards, which are already pricier (and thus worse value) than HD4890s. 1 GTX295 != 2 GTX275! Something people tend to forget :rolleyes: Sometimes a GTX295 is as good as 1.6 GTX275s, sometimes even more, but often a lot less. In a few games a GTX295 is as good as 1 GTX275, as SLI isn't supported with that game, or even slower than a single GTX275 as a game has bugged SLI support :eek: CrossFire is also chancy; its just a bit more reliable and tends toward slightly better scaling than nVidia more often than not.

    As for PSU, any good brand 500W PSU could run it, and any good 750W PSU can run it comfortably. The latter is extremely heavily advised though. A 1kw PSU is only really neccessary if you want to stick in a second GTX295, but that really does border on the clinically insane :P

    If you want to chance CrossFire here's a sample for under €1200 shipped:

    HWVS220809.png

    Couldn't be arsed putting in silly gubbins; I prefer networking with cables myself :P And do you really need a card reader? Oh, and that sound card up there is a real damp squib; if you really need audiophile-grade sound you'll be paying at least €75 and probably a lot more.

    If you really need EAX then get a €20 Audigy and slap the uncrippled drivers on to turn it into an X-Fi...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Excellent system Solitaire and an even better price.


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