Semi's are empty half full , why?

The_Kew_Tour

Scien wrote: »

I waited until 3.30 today to buy mine off a Tout. I gave him a Tenner for a Upper Davin & he was glad to be rid of it.

Glad thats all he got seen few around yesterday saying they take less then face value..

glad there suffering

premierstone

shockframe wrote: »

hurling fans would annoy you at times because everything the cork hurlers do is great.having to listen to national journalists hype up the cork hurlers like denis walsh and diarmuid o flynn is painful.the football have always been the poor relation but this crop of cork players are a serious team with no great egos, great modesty,excellent workrate and a team i would like to see win the all ireland.

Where does Eoin Cadogain fit in to all these stereotypes :rolleyes:

shockframe

maybe the galway hurlers put manners on him.i dont rate him that highly in football tbh.he got skinned by cavanagh near the end of the match and kavanagh was unlucky not to have scored a goal.

premierstone

shockframe wrote: »

maybe the galway hurlers put manners on him.i dont rate him that highly in football tbh.he got skinned by cavanagh near the end of the match and kavanagh was unlucky not to have scored a goal.

Well tbh I dont rate him that highly in hurling either, I would say he is solid in both codes without been spectacular in either, he got MOTM against tipp for holding Webster scoreless jaysus if they were handing out awards for that they would have a full time job, and even at that he was fouling him all day long only Webster hadnt the brains to even win a free

kcb

damnyanks wrote: »

Greetings,

Todays Cork Tyrone game only pulled 50k people. ARe the GAA over pricing the tickets or have people lost interest?

I was at the hurling last week. 45 quid a ticket, stadium had 40k in it.

Basically Irish people are event junkies. They don't understand the concept of actually supporting a team.

premierstone

kcb wrote: »

Basically Irish people are event junkies. They don't understand the concept of actually supporting a team.

And some of them even go on the internet making ludicrous unfounded sweeping statements :rolleyes:

Orizio

kcb wrote: »

Basically the human race are event junkies. They don't understand the concept of actually supporting a team.

FYP.

Orizio

premierstone wrote: »

Where does Eoin Cadogain fit in to all these stereotypes :rolleyes:

When has Eoin Cadogan ever shown to not be modeest, not have an ego, not work hard etc? I mean, I assume you know him personally to judge him in such a way...

premierstone

Orizio wrote: »

When has Eoin Cadogan ever shown to not be modeest, not have an ego, not work hard etc? I mean, I assume you know him personally to judge him in such a way...

You misunderstood my point Orizio I think, the post I was replying to implied that while the footballers were all the above that the hurlers were not, so my question was where does Eoin Cadogan fit in or does he suffer from split personality, I was highlighting the redic. generalizations been made about both panels.

bobbysands81

Koloman wrote: »

It really does say something about the state of the sport when apart from Dublin and the finals it takes a few rugby matches to fill the stadium to capacity!

GAA is in an incredibly good state, why would you think differently?

Attendances at GAA games are phenomenal when compared to the population of counties. We have an island of less than 6 million yet over 1,000,000 will have attended inter county GAA matches this Summer.

Rugby has a whole island of 32 counties containing 6 million people from which it can fill a stadium (a stadium it had to borrow from the GAA) the GAA has 2 counties, it's not difficult to do the maths.

According to wikipedia Kilkenny has a population of 30,000 and Waterford has approx 160,000 , that they can get close to 50,000 people to a match nearly 100 miles away from their counties is extraordinary - a failure to recognise this suggests that there may be other agendae at work.

bobbysands81

Bob_Harris wrote: »

Why half full, because the stadium is too big. The "it will be full for the finals" argument is nonsense really. Even with 2 quarter finals and 4 teams playing back to back, it's still half empty.

They put too much money into it and then feel the need to play as much games there as possible to justify it.

What would have been a much more logical approach would have been to distribute the money so that we would have 2 or 3 top class stadiums (~40k capacity) across the country.

If my county get to a position where they have a fixture in Croke Park, I couldn't be arsed trekking up to Dublin with all the associated hassle involved.

Croke Park is not too big, it more than pays for itself.

I agree that there are too many games played there but this is done in order to facilitate the folks that put big money into the stadium... the people that bought the various ten year tickets.

bobbysands81

Koloman wrote: »

Maybe, but that is just one day in the year. In the coming years with no IRFU or FAI money coming in, the Croke Park stadium will become an albatross around the GAA's neck.

Croke Park is nearly paid off though... it won't be an albatross.

K-9

Orizio wrote: »

I'm sure I said it before, but it really was a case of Tyrone vs. West Cork. The whole thing about the Cork footballers is compounded by the embarassment of many fans, including myself, of watching them get hammered by Kerry in Croker again and again and again...

Well, it is half of Tyrone really!

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Croke Park is nearly paid off though... it won't be an albatross.

We are lucky it was started back in 93. Great forsight by all involved. Imagine if they started it last year!

kcb

Orizio wrote: »

FYP.

Irish more than anyone else.

soundsham

damnyanks wrote: »

Greetings,

Todays Cork Tyrone game only pulled 50k people. ARe the GAA over pricing the tickets or have people lost interest?

I was at the hurling last week. 45 quid a ticket, stadium had 40k in it.

cute hoors wait for the final,and will only support there team if they reach it

Power-surge

Did you know that matches in HQ only bring in 30% of the money. 70% of it comes from the business side of it (conferences etc.)

Agus

bobbysands81 wrote: »

According to wikipedia Kilkenny has a population of 30,000 and Waterford has approx 160,000 , that they can get close to 50,000 people to a match nearly 100 miles away from their counties is extraordinary .

You might be thinking of Kilkenny city there? The county's population is about three timees that. I don't think Waterford is quite as much as 160,000 either. Back before the Famine though when almost all the counties except Dublin had much bigger numbers apparently KK and Waterford had a population about 200,000 each! In any case, the point remains a strong one either way!

Daysha

DESPITE the impact of the recession, the GAA remains on course to comfortably beat the 1.5 million attendance figures for this year's All-Ireland senior hurling and football championships.

However, gate receipts could be down by as much as 10pc on 2008 arising from various family-friendly ticket packages and other initiatives designed to maintain high attendances while easing the financial burden on supporters.

If next Sunday's Kerry-Meath football semi-final attracts anything over 56,320, the total turnout for the season would beat the 2008 figure of 1,536,780. According to figures compiled by the Irish Independent, a total of 1,316,061 have attended all senior championship games so far.

Both of the All-Ireland finals will be 82,200 sell-outs, leaving the Kerry-Meath game with a 56,320 target to beat last year's overall figure.

It's unlikely to be achieved but even if it comes in short it will still leave the 2009 figures extremely close to last year, which is a remarkable achievement in the current climate.

delighted

"We're delighted with how the attendance figures have held up. We're coming very close to last year's attendance figures but the financial returns will be down because of the various initiatives taken to ease the financial burden on the public," said GAA Director-General, Paraic Duffy.

He said the extent of the financial drop wouldn't be known until all the figures were completed at the end of the season, but estimated that it could be around 10pc.

"The various family deals and other packages worked out well. We sat down with the provincial councils last spring and it was agreed that it was important to make it as financially attractive as possible for families and groups to attend the championship games.

"It was felt that rather than reduce ticket prices across the board, it would be better to arrange deals for families and groups. The provincial councils put a lot of effort into it and the public responded. The attendance figures held up well early on in the championship and once that happened, the momentum grew throughout the summer. The intention was to keep crowds as high as possible and it has worked," he said.

That will also be the priority next year, when it's expected that other initiatives will be launched in order to keep the turnstiles ticking.

"While we worked at keeping the crowds up, it ultimately comes down to the entertainment on offer and, in the main, it has been a very good year. We will be taking a financial hit but it's more important that as many people as possible believe they are getting good value for money and attend our games. Our attendance figures suggest that they are."

A total of 92 games have been played in the hurling and football championships so far this year, which is seven more than last year. That's due mainly to the re-entry of Division 4 teams to the All-Ireland football qualifiers, which necessitated an extra round of games. However, the hurling qualifiers were cut by one game.

Significantly, there were more replays in last year's games, including such high-profile games as the All-Ireland football semi-final (Cork v Kerry), the Ulster football final (Armagh v Fermanagh) and the Ulster quarter-final (Down v Tyrone).

Four replays attracted an estimated 85,000 attendance (two were part of double-headers) last year whereas three replays this year drew 50,500. The difference is close to the total return for this year's additional first-round football qualifier games, which came in at 36,300.

Effectively, the added attendances at replays last year matched the turnout for the extra round of football qualifiers this year.

A dramatic drop in attendances, which reached record highs in recent years, was forecast for this year but did not emerge.

"That's the most encouraging thing," said Duffy. "We were coming off a high base which we were very aware of so there was always a risk of a fall-off in the current climate. It hasn't happened, which is really great to see.

"However, we won't be complacent and when it comes to 2010 we'll have to look at new ways of keeping the crowds up."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaa-championships/gaelic-football/gaa-winning-numbers-game-despite-recession-1870740.html

Nice to seeing someone else taking a positive aspect on this.

Blackjack

Power-surge wrote: »

Did you know that matches in HQ only bring in 30% of the money. 70% of it comes from the business side of it (conferences etc.)

As with any Large facility thats really only used on specific Summer occasions, they year round income options provide the majority of the income.

This is different from other similar facilities because?.

rebel girl 15

shockframe wrote: »

as an outsider living in cork i can honestly say that the support the footballers get is an absolute disgrace.only 300 people came to their homecoming in 2007 after they got beat by kerry.what interests cork is winning

Change that quote "what interests Cork is the men winning"

Anyone in Cork that wants to support winning teams, then support the ladies football and camogie teams. Footballers going for 5 All Ireland titles in a row, camogie team into their eighth All Ireland in a row. The support the girls get is worse that poor. If they were men, they'd have a huge support. All the hype about Kerry into their sixth AI final, nothing about the Cork camogie girls. KK going for 4 in a row - hype, Cork going for 5 in a row, hardly anything said within their county, let alone outside. The girls put in as much effort as the lads, if not more, don't get half the perks the men get - and no recognition.

The Cork footballers are not as well supported as the hurlers, but spare a though for the girls, highly successful girls who don't get a tenth of the support of the male footballers.

As regards the stadium, the cost of tickets and travel for some people is way too much. The family initiatives etc are a good step. I know some families that went up twice or three times a year to see Cork hurlers and footballers play, but now can only afford to go once a year.

As regards AI final day and the ticket situation, how many of those people inside Croker have gone to two or more of the games beforehand. Or can name most of the team? For finals, demand will always be bigger than supply and I feel sorry for those going to all the games all year and not getting an AI ticket.

it was a good attendence, AFAIK Croke Park needs around an attendence of 35,000 people to break even. So they are happy once the attendence is higher than that!

I think there would be uproar if they were to try and change games out of HQ, like they tried to do for the camogie AI finals. It is the right place to have these games, it is the ultimate for any GAA player to play there, but maybe HQ could look at some new initiatives to encourage more people to travel.