Liverpool v Aston Villa Match Thread

Dublin_Gunner

How I wish we had a proper right winger. How many times did Kuyt get the ball out wide, and just not know what to do, not have the confidence / ability to take on the defender - Johnson stayed too far back for far too long in the second half.

Nando wasn't exactly on fir either - looked uncomfortable with the ball at his feet - maybe it was the knock the other day?

PHB

Insua is a talented little ****er, I don't know why people don't realise this.

Liverpool struggled again today in midfield against a half decent midfield, just as they did in the first match. I don't think anyone would argue against the fact that Liverpool right now have struggled in 2 of 3 games in midfield, against teams that would be in the top 8. Sure they beat Stoke, but if this trend continues, they'll really struggle for even 4th.

Gona be interesting to see what Rafa does, he needs to address this midfield problem big time:
Can he get the best out of Lucas?
Does he drop Gerrard back?
Does he, or can he, go into the transfer market?

eddiehead

Villain wrote: »

I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it


Villa till I DIE

.......Happy?

G

Bang.

Chardee MacDennis

balls..

tomred1

Great result Villa.Now Martin go out and buy a few players.

Jesus Wept

Villain wrote: »

I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it I F*cking Love it


Villa till I DIE

I imagine this is your equivalent of a winning a big competition. :pac:

Dcully

I just have to laugh when i think back what i read on some Pool sites today with Rafa telling his players to turn Anfield into a fortress :rolleyes:

BERBA

will the pool stay up?:D

Cremated

Well done lads, great result for us, amazing what 4-5-1 can do ...

Well done Villa, best team by a mile.

Poor poor performance by the Liverpool team, no creativity in the middle.

Stargate

Perfect Choice wrote: »

A big big blow to Liverpool's title hopes this season. Full credit to Villa though, they deserved it.

Agreed

Stevecw

Jaysus, that was painful to watch. Terrible result showing up yet again what a weak squad we have.

Already saying goodbye to the league title on 24th August

invincibleirish

invincibleirish wrote: »

Villa to win tonight, underdogs tag is what suits us best. Whatever else we can say about MON, we know that him and the team are under no pressure to win tonight. keep it tight til half time, let the crowd get frustrated and get a jammy goal and sit on it. Spurs made this lot look ordinary and got a result against them and if they can do it so can Villa.

Sometimes you just gotta have a little faith and think positive

UTV

LuckyLloyd

Ah well, one of those days. Stick the ball in the net early doors and it's a different game. It happens. Early days.

Stargate

Stevecw wrote: »

Jaysus, that was painful to watch. Terrible result showing up yet again what a weak squad we have.

Already saying goodbye to the league title on 24th August

Very painful

allthedoyles

It may be just a 'blip'

Set pieces are their downfall...........3 goals tonight conceded

Rafa must stay .............or the empire will surely crumble

thomond2006

Headshot wrote: »

how the **** is babel still at Liverpool

That's the root of the problem. Players of championship standard in a Top 4 squad.

If they get injuries Liverpool will be crippled, especially up front.

Just look at the strikers at the big PL clubs:

Man Utd: Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Welbeck, Macheda

Arsenal: Van Persie, Bentdner, Eduardo, Vela, Wilshere,

Chelsea: Drogba, Anelka, Di Santo, Schevchenko (lol)

Man City: Adebayor, Tevez, Robinho, Santa Cruz, Bellamy, Benjani :eek:

Tottenham: Defoe, Keane, Crouch, Palyuchenko

Liverpool: Torres, Kuyt, Voronin, N'Gog

Bandit12

Stevecw wrote: »

Jaysus, that was painful to watch. Terrible result showing up yet again what a weak squad we have.

Already saying goodbye to the league title on 24th August

Oh my God. Sometimes i wonder i really do.

Headshot

I know Ryan Babel is still young but he shouldnt be near that liverpool team

id sell him first thing in the morning and try to bring in some descent squad players

also Voronin send him back to germany

Y2J_MUFC

We could both do with Chelsea dropping a few points now!

CR 7

Delighted for Villa, a deserved victory. A tactical master-stroke putting Young on the left, restricting Johnson's attacking.:pac:

Paddy Power to suspend betting on Benitez being sacked again?:rolleyes:

The Muppet

Six points dropped in the first 3 games without meeting Arsenal United or Chelsea is a very poor start. It's much to early to rule liverpool out of the title chase but it's not going to be easy to overcome those setbacks.

~Rebel~

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Babel - not exactly an impact player.

Is that not pretty much all he is? Tbh i thought Babel did alright when he came on.

Well done Villa, yee deserved it on the night, very disappointed with the pool performance, made it too easy for yee.

mark renton

jaykay74 wrote: »

Has the potential to be a decent squad player I think.

Lucas / Voronin

im sick to death of "Potential" let them reach their "Potential" elsewhere then they will have earned the right to play for Liverpool

Nalz

ASTON VILLA - WELL DONE.

ntlbell

thomond2006 wrote: »

T
Liverpool: Torres, Kuyt, Voronin, N'Gog

If this lot end up with a prem medal.

I'll stop watching football.

ynwa_17

allthedoyles wrote: »

It may be just a 'blip'

Set pieces are their downfall...........3 goals tonight conceded

Rafa must stay .............or the empire will surely crumble

Sack Rafa, bring in the King and let him resign God. What more do you need?

Villain

The-Rigger wrote: »

I imagine this is your equivalent of a winning a big competition. :pac:

When you have 2 brothers who support the Pool and brought me to the Pool win at Anfield last year in the kop, then yep it is

CHD

Villa really needed this. WP

Dublin_Gunner

thomond2006 wrote: »

That's the root of the problem. Players of championship standard in a Top 4 squad.

If they get injuries Liverpool will be crippled, especially up front.

Just look at the strikers at the big PL clubs:

Man Utd: Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Welbeck, Macheda

Arsenal: Van Persie, Bentdner, Eduardo, Vela, Wilshere,

Chelsea: Drogba, Anelka, Di Santo, Schevchenko (lol)

Man City: Adebayor, Tevez, Robinho, Santa Cruz, Bellamy, Benjani :eek:

Tottenham: Defoe, Keane, Crouch, Palyuchenko

Liverpool: Torres, Kuyt, Voronin, N'Gog

In fairness, listing those players doesn't really back up your point. Welbeck, Macheda?? Vela, Wilshire? Di Santo, Schevchenko? Bellamy, Benjani, Santa Cruz??

With the exception of Spurs (amazingly!) - there's feck all difference with the quality up front. Apart from maybe United / City who can boast 3 top class forwards.

john47832 wrote: »

Lucas / Voronin Babel


im sick to death of "Potential" let them reach their "Potential" elsewhere then they will have earned the right to play for Liverpool

FYP

I've said it before and I'll say it again - how can people defend Lucas when he can perform like tonight?? It amazes me.

How many more 'Brucie moments' does he have to have before more of his defenders realise he's sh1te? Seriously. He is not up to the standard of Lierpool FC. Same can be said for Babel, and to an extent Voronin (though you're not gonna get much better willing to sit on a bench 90% of the time).

How I wish we had a decent right winger too (no offence to Kuyt - he works hard), someone who know how to take on a full back, get behind the defence, make something happen. Ugh, tonights match bored me.

Yay, Liverpool have all of the ball for the second half - but dont't bloody well know what to do with it in the final third.

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Do you know what makes this worse??? My Boss is a Villa fan!!!!

Grr - fair play to them though.

LuckyLloyd

The Muppet wrote: »

Six points dropped in the first 3 games without meeting Arsenal United or Chelsea is a very poor start. It's much to early to rule liverpool out of the title chase but it's not going to be easy to overcome those setbacks.

No club has won the Premiership following an opening day defeat. It's a terrible start, no doubt. But it is literally just the start. Easy to forget that.

Eire-Dearg

That was brutal.

PaddyTheNth

ntlbell wrote: »

If this lot end up with a prem medal.

I'll stop watching football.

Djimi Traore, champions league winner...

Thought Villa were a credit to MON tonight.

Jesus Wept

thomond2006 wrote: »

That's the root of the problem. Players of championship standard in a Top 4 squad.

If they get injuries Liverpool will be crippled, especially up front.

Just look at the strikers at the big PL clubs:

Man Utd: Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Welbeck, Macheda

Arsenal: Van Persie, Bentdner, Eduardo, Vela, Wilshere,

Chelsea: Drogba, Anelka, Di Santo, Schevchenko (lol)

Man City: Adebayor, Tevez, Robinho, Santa Cruz, Bellamy, Benjani :eek:

Tottenham: Defoe, Keane, Crouch, Palyuchenko

Liverpool: Torres, Kuyt, Voronin, N'Gog

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

In fairness, listing those players doesn't really back up your point. Welbeck, Macheda?? Vela, Wilshire? Di Santo, Schevchenko? Bellamy, Benjani, Santa Cruz??

With the exception of Spurs (amazingly!) - there's feck all difference with the quality up front. Apart from maybe United / City who can boast 3 top class forwards.

Is Gerrard not playing as a striker nowadays?

rossie1977

Dcully wrote: »

I just have to laugh when i think back what i read on some Pool sites today with Rafa telling his players to turn Anfield into a fortress :rolleyes:

in fairness anfield has been a bit of a fortress in recent seasons in the league, only utd have won there last 3 years and last team outside of utd to win there were chelsea way back on 2nd october 2005

noodler

We look all at sea without Alonso - as cliched as it is to say it.

You would swear we sold half a team.

ronbyrne2005

What are Raffa's biggest flaws in your opinion?

Kirby

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

What are Raffa's biggest flaws in your opinion?

stubborness. Would rather watch the team fail, than admit when he's wrong.

The Muppet

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

It's a terrible start, no doubt. But it is literally just the start. Easy to forget that.

I know but they have now lost the same amount of games as they did in the whole of last season and Arsenal , Chelsea and Tottenham all look stronger than last year. Liverpool need to go on an incredible winning run to stay in the race imo.

rossie1977

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

No club has won the Premiership following an opening day defeat.

utd has twice, 1995 they lost the opening game to villa 3-1, 1992 utd lost their opening 2 games and drew the third and still won the league

having said that liverpool won't win the league this year

thomond2006

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

In fairness, listing those players doesn't really back up your point. Welbeck, Macheda?? Vela, Wilshire? Di Santo, Schevchenko? Bellamy, Benjani, Santa Cruz??

With the exception of Spurs (amazingly!) - there's feck all difference with the quality up front. Apart from maybe United / City who can boast 3 top class forwards.

I was trying to compare the depth of the squads of the top PL clubs, which Liverpool should be matching and which at the moment, I don't think they are tbh.

I see your point but I put this to you:

If Torres get injured, Liverpool can bring in Kuyt, Voronin and N'Gog.
Of those three, Kuyt is the only player of proven quality.

If Rooney gets injured, MU can bring in Berba or Owen, who are both proven quality players.

And so on..

curry-muff

PaddyTheNth wrote: »

Djimi Traore, champions league winner...

Thought Villa were a credit to MON tonight.

Yeah but you had quality players to back him up back then

Mitch Connor

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

No club has won the Premiership following an opening day defeat. It's a terrible start, no doubt. But it is literally just the start. Easy to forget that.

incorrect.

United were hammered by Villa on the opening day in 95/96, Hansen said you'd never win anything with kids, and we won the double that season.

thomond2006

Kirby wrote: »

stubborness. Would rather watch the team fail, than admit when he's wrong.

+1, well made point.

dannydiamond

Kirby wrote: »

Would rather watch the team fail, than admit when he's wrong.

Bulls**t.

M5

Kirby wrote: »

stubborness. Would rather watch the team fail, than admit when he's wrong.

for god's sake, thats two losses, seriously the season is 3 games old

mark renton

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

What are Raffa's biggest flaws in your opinion?

1.Stubborness - the continuing sticking by below standard players Lucas / Voronin

the obvious replacement in Alonsos position is Stevie G however Benitez seems to know better than everyone else

2. Transfer market - sold strikers and never replace them, bought replacement for Alonso who is out injured for 6-8 weeks..... league cannot be won in that time but can certainly be lost

thomond2006

Mitch Connor wrote: »

incorrect.

United were hammered by Villa on the opening day in 95/96, Hansen said you'd never win anything with kids, and we won the double that season.

Sport has no memory, this has nothing to do with 09/10 Liverpool to be fair.

thomond2006

dannydiamond wrote: »

Bulls**t.

M5 wrote: »

for god's sake, thats two losses, seriously the season is 3 games old

To be honest, it's been like this for a while now.

I do hope you get a decent manager.