Arsenal V Celtic - 2nd leg - Emirates

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Delighted we've gone through.

While we were dished out with three large slices of luck over the course of the tie I really don't think that Celtic would have deserved the Champions League place, they're simply not good enough.

Was embarrassed by Eduardo's dive. I can see how it fooled the ref although if the ref had any common sense he wouldn't have given it as the ball was basically out of play as Eduardo started going down.

I'll be pi**ed off if he gets a ban though considering the stuff player have gotten away with it recent years.

cson

I will say this; should he get a 2 match ban, I would expect that it would be a precedent set for the remainder of the Champions League and that should any similar incidents arise, as invariably they will, that the offender get the same punishment.

WillieCocker

premierstone wrote: »

Williecocker?????

When are you going to specsavers?

I was probably the first to call it a dive on here.
I also said i wouldn't dispute any action taken, fact was the ref let it go.

Now climb aboard and jump......:)

premierstone

WillieCocker wrote: »

When are you going to specsavers?

I was probably the first to call it a dive on here.
I also said i wouldn't dispute any action taken, fact was the ref let it go.

Now climb aboard and jump......:)

You said it was a bit of a dive and that there was minimal contact, not me who needs to go to specsavers, and at no point have you condemed he's actions, I await !!

WillieCocker

premierstone wrote: »

You said it was a bit of a dive and that there was minimal contact, not me who needs to go to specsavers, and at no point have you condemed he's actions, I await !!

I will comdemn his actions when he's red carded and banned for it.
Fact is it was dive, and it went his way like sooo many others.
Get over it.....

premierstone

WillieCocker wrote: »

I will comdemn his actions when he's red carded and banned for it.
Fact is it was dive, and it went his way like sooo many others.
Get over it.....

Why do you have to wait for him to be banned are you incapable of thinking for yourself or what??

And no I wont get over it, I am an Arsenal fan as you well know and what Eduardo did last Wednesday night has left a very sour taste in my mouth and has spoiled what has been a near perfect start to the new season for the gunners.

How did you feel when Eduardo had he's leg broken?? Fact is it was a tackle and it went Martin Taylors' way like sooo many others :rolleyes:

WillieCocker

premierstone wrote: »

Why do you have to wait for him to be banned are you incapable of thinking for yourself or what??

Say the same to the manager of the club you support.
Do you not like him now either?
He didn't condemn the player, so why should i?

And no I wont get over it, I am an Arsenal fan as you well know and what Eduardo did last Wednesday night has left a very sour taste in my mouth and has spoiled what has been a near perfect start to the new season for the gunners.

Do you need councelling?
You don't sound like an Arsenal fan, i could hear the Arsenal fans chanting Eduardo's name after the penalty was given.
I think the same would happen in all clubs.
Fact is whether we condemn him or not people will still label him as a cheat even if he never does it again, so i couldn't care less.

How did you feel when Eduardo had he's leg broken?? Fact is it was a tackle and it went Martin Taylors' way like sooo many others :rolleyes:

Well it didn't go his way he was sent off if you actually saw the game?:rolleyes:

premierstone

WillieCocker wrote: »

Say the same to the manager of the club you support.

i could hear the Arsenal fans chanting Eduardo's name after the penalty was given.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you dont have the ability to think for yourself :rolleyes:

I will leave it at that and assume that given the fact that you have to return to school next week I wont have to read anymore of your ramblings :P

WillieCocker

premierstone wrote: »

Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you dont have the ability to think for yourself :rolleyes:

I will leave it at that and assume that given the fact that you have to return to school next week I wont have to read anymore of your ramblings :P

Your quite the petty Celtic supporter you know that? :pac:
I wouldn't give my opinion to a supporter who can't pick which club to support :P

Pal

so nobody said it wasn't a dive.
I admit.

But that actually proves my point

Hmmmm

anyawys,

a 2 match ban is a joke.
who gives a toss .

will that stop it ?

no

Not on your nelly.

Heres what should happen

Result reversed (Arsenal out on away goals ) or Arsenal offer to replay the game.

no bloody chance.

Too much money and hypocrisy at stake.
Too little spine at UEFA to mess around with England's elite.

Now thats football.

Redzer7

Pal wrote: »

so nobody said it wasn't a dive.

It wasn't a dive , Seriously though im annoyed that Eduardo has dived,
lost a bit of respect from me, but Uefa can't only single him out.
They better follow up this and punish every player that dives this year, nearly impossible.

Having said that Eduardo has lost a bit of respect from me he could certainly
earn that respect again by scoring against United tomorrow :P
but we'll leave that for another thread :pac:.

WillieCocker

Redzer7 wrote: »

Having said that Eduardo has lost a bit of respect from me he could certainly
earn that respect again by scoring against United tomorrow :P
but we'll leave that for another thread :pac:.

And that's what it all boils down to no matter which club/player you support.

Redzer7

WillieCocker wrote: »

And that's what it all boils down to no matter which club/player you support.

Exactly .

gosplan

Pal wrote: »

Heres what should happen

Result reversed (Arsenal out on away goals ) or Arsenal offer to replay the game.

no bloody chance.

So instead of the yellow card that it was in the past, we instead throw a club out of a European competition (an action for which it has previously taken spectator deaths of some form or another), deny them about 20 million or so, and let in a club that weren't even close to going through regardless of the incident. And we do all this without any prior warning to the club. Yellow card transformed straight into this.

That's a really really really great idea. :P

Pal

gosplan wrote: »

So instead of the yellow card that it was in the past, we instead throw a club out of a European competition (an action for which it has previously taken spectator deaths of some form or another), deny them about 20 million or so, and let in a club that weren't even close to going through regardless of the incident. And we do all this without any prior warning to the club. Yellow card transformed straight into this.

That's a really really really great idea. :P

spectator deaths !
WTF ?

we're talking about a diver

Now should Arsenal offer a replay ?

I think so.

stay on topic please.

gosplan

Pal wrote: »

spectator deaths !
WTF ?

we're talking about a diver

I know. AFAIK the last time clubs were actually dismissed from a European competition (what you're effectively proposing) was after Heysel.

OPENROAD

Pal wrote: »

Now should Arsenal offer a replay ?

I think so.

.

And the result would still be the same, an easy Arsenal win.

gosplan

Pal wrote: »

spectator deaths !
WTF ?

we're talking about a diver

Now should Arsenal offer a replay ?

I think so.

stay on topic please.

Offer a replay?? What happened to the result reversed, Arsenal out option?

Regardless, no they shouldn't offer a replay. Why the hell should they?

....and since when did pointing out how ridiculous your suggestion is become off topic?

Pal

calm down.
we're all entitled to our POV.
I'd put them out because that would stop the next chancer diving but thats just me.
Wenger was a tad pitiful.
good article by james Lawton in todays Indo.
(its probably linked. do a google if you must challenge)
He sums up the whole sorry story pretty well.

OPENROAD

Pal wrote: »

calm down.
we're all entitled to our POV.
I'd put them out because that would stop the next chancer diving but thats just me.
Wenger was a tad pitiful.
good article by james Lawton in todays Indo.
(its probably linked. do a google if you must challenge)
He sums up the whole sorry story pretty well.

and if Celtic were involved you would feel the same, would you?

gosplan

Pal wrote: »

good article by james Lawton in todays Indo.

Oh dear god! I shudder to think but I'll take a look.

OPENROAD

gosplan wrote: »

Oh dear god! I shudder to think but I'll take a look.

read it last night, terrible article

IvySlayer

He dived, no doubt about it, and I support UEFA in punishing him, just so long as every dive is going to punished.

Arsenal offering a replay is a ridiculous suggestion, Arsenal outclassed Celtic over both legs. Eduardo dived for one goal.

OPENROAD

IvySlayer wrote: »

just so long as every dive is going to punished.

.

I'll believe that when I see it

gosplan

Pal wrote: »

Wenger was a tad pitiful.
good article by james Lawton in todays Indo.
(its probably linked. do a google if you must challenge)
He sums up the whole sorry story pretty well.

James Lawton wrote:

He couldn't bring himself to say that his striker Eduardo da Silva had performed one of the more shocking pieces of deceit even at a time when such behaviour has become almost standard.

Why is the moral responsibility suddenly on Wenger to be the first to condemn his own players for what Lawton calls 'almost standard' behaviour? Seriously, why this match, why now?

Wenger said that it wasn't a penalty and I'm surprised he went that far. Seriously, Lawton is always spouting this righteous indignation stuff. Don't fall for it, it's a joke. It's his schtick and he's built a career on it, much like Eamonn Dunphy.

General Zod

Aresenal were the better team, best of luck to them in the CL.

Eduardo cheated, was caught and will be punished.

the saddest thing of it all is that he really didn't need to.