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Master of Puppets Vs And Justice for All?
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28-08-2009 2:35pm#1
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fartmaster wrote: »Ive been into Metallica since day one. Dont get me wrong I love Master of Puppets but if you really listen to the albums you'll hear that like any great artists in their prime they try to improve on the previous album and honestly Metallica with And Justice excelled themselves, to Live is to Die IHMO is the best song Metallica ever produced, its crashing cymbals and never ending guitar solos sum up what metallica is all about.
I respectfully disagree!
Metallica are a band who's image is one of no image. The genre of metal/rock they fall into has changed many times as they have released albums. RTL had a very ballady song on it that was very much a no-no back then! St. Anger has no solos.
The one constant they have is grinding riffs. although I dont know what that means!
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There is actually no way you can even try to compare PuppetsvJusticevRide it's impossible each have there own qualitys and each has amazing songs i am partial to the drumming in Justice though for me the best Lars has done and Blackened is my favourite song ever even still you cant compare these albums none of these albums are better than the others they are all equally brilliant
Yes you have a point but with a 'gun to your head' on this thread please make a decision!I respectfully disagree! Metallica are a band who's image is one of no image. The genre of metal/rock they fall into has changed many times as they have released albums. RTL had a very ballady song on it that was very much a no-no back then! St. Anger has no solos.
The one constant they have is grinding riffs. although I dont know what that means!
Metallia died after ..And Jusctice for All but done a bit a lazarus with Death Magnetic, the albums inbetween are poor roxk albums at best. Oh and the 'grinding' you pointed out in your post is just some new age crap kids spout today to try and show thats there is a difference between new metal and that of old but in reality Metal was born in the 1980's and has since tried and failed to reinvent itself, the old stuff is the best!!!! :pac:0 -
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fartmaster wrote: »Two of Metallica's best Albums, you could possibilty put Ride The Lightning in here to but overall it does not have the appeal of the latter two. Anyway, point of the thread which is one (Master or Justice) is better and why?
For me its ..And Justice of All.
Lets me make a comparision of the songs and show which does it more for me...
Battery or Blackened......Winner.......Blackened!
master of Puppets or And Justice for All......winner......Master of Puppets
The Thing That Should Not Be or Eye of the Beholder....winner...Eye of the Beholder
Sanitarium or One.........Winner.......One
Disposal hereos or The Shortest Straw......Winner....The Shortest straw
Leper Messiah or Harvester of Sorrow.......Winner......Leper Messiah
Orion or To Live is to Die.......Winner.....To Live is to Die
Damage Inc or Dyers Eve...Winner.......Dyers Eve
So, for me Jusctice is the clear winner hands down 2 - 6!
I left out the Frayed Ends of Sanity as its just a stinker but is far better than the Thing that Should not be.
Master of Puppets has a lot more bass guitar and had better production than Justice which was down to the death of Cliff Burton but even with this handicap ..And Justice for All blows Master of Puppets out of the water for me!
So wrong! MOP is without a doubt better than AJFA.
Ive always felt AJFA was missing something (Not the bass ha) and felt too repetitive. The pigeonholed themselves IMO with trying to make technical songs and this ended in it feeling repetitive to me anyway. Where as MOP had it all. I really can't fault any of MOP.
When this comes up I always say, which would you want to listen to in full more, Master or Justice?
Master for me. I cant listen to Justice in full really.
On a final note... Blackened is king though. 0 -
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So wrong! MOP is without a doubt better than AJFA.
Ive always felt AJFA was missing something (Not the bass ha) and felt too repetitive. The pigeonholed themselves IMO with trying to make technical songs and this ended in it feeling repetitive to me anyway. Where as MOP had it all. I really can't fault any of MOP.
When this comes up I always say, which would you want to listen to in full more, Master or Justice?
Master for me. I cant listen to Justice in full really.
On a final note... Blackened is king though.
Pound for pound song for song, like I said in my in my original post, And Justice is superior! MOP was before AJFA, therefore has a special place in people's hearts and thats why people say they like it more! Go home and listen to TO LIVE IS TO DIE start to finish tonight and then come back on here and edit all yer posts ha ha feckin genius of a song far better than ORION ye people are mad!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
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When you create a thread, just about the "Create New Thread" button is a panel labelled "Post a Poll". Tick the box and set the number of poll options. Click "Create New Thread" and you'll be taken to a screen that will allow you to enter the poll details. I don't think you can add a poll to a thread once it's been created however. At least you'll know how to do it for your next thread when you face off Kill 'Em all against Ride The Lightning or somethingfartmaster wrote: »How does one do a Poll?.
I can't say the prospect of James Hetfield prancing around in a leotard appeals to me but each to their ownfartmaster wrote:'Fade to Black' for me is the best of the best 'ballet' Metallica songs. 0 -
When you create a thread, just about the "Create New Thread" button is a panel labelled "Post a Poll". Tick the box and set the number of poll options. Click "Create New Thread" and you'll be taken to a screen that will allow you to enter the poll details. I don't think you can add a poll to a thread once it's been created however. At least you'll know how to do it for your next thread when you face off Kill 'Em all against Ride The Lightning or something.
I can't say the prospect of James Hetfield prancing around in a leotard appeals to me but each to their own. 0 -
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Definitely Master of Puppets in my opinion; the guitar solos in the title track and the masterpiece that is Orion. AJFA is an excellent album song wise though.fartmaster wrote: ».....in reality Metal was born in the 1980's and has since tried and failed to reinvent itself, the old stuff is the best!!!! :pac:
I'd say metal was born well before the 1980's. Where I agree that a lot of the old stuff is great, prog and symphonic metal genres contain some excellent materialAt least you'll know how to do it for your next thread when you face off Kill 'Em all against Ride The Lightning or something.
How about Kill 'Em All vs. Killing is my Business.....And Business is Good:D0 -
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