Male Suicide

Dr Galen

Somewhat of a touchy subject to be honest, but one that personally I feel needs discussion.

I've pulled the following bits and pieces from the Suicide in Ireland: A National Study 2001 and the annual reports of the National Office for Suicide Prevention.

Almost five times more men died from suicide than women. Suicide is the principal cause of death
for men aged 15-35 years.

Mental health disorders, especially depression, remain the highest risk factor for suicide.

Deliberate self-harm is a significant risk factor for suicide. Almost a quarter had a known history of deliberate self-harm.

Males were less likely than females to have attended the mental health services.

Male Vs Female Suicide Rates

So what do people think? It seems to be a blight on the young men of this country, though looking at other figures we don't seem that far from the EU averages.

What can be done? What is being done that you know of? Anyone care to voice an opinion on why so many more men commit suicide than women?

Will

Very little is being done to educate and make people aware of suicide, mental health or even self harm. I think it all boils down to us guys not wanting to or being able to talk about our feelings. Not being able to verbalise emotions or talk about it, even with close friends. It's taboo.

As we seen in other threads there are pressures there on young lads to maintain the illusion of manliness and have a stiff upper lip. We are conditioned into behaving as such. Young teenagers need to be informed and encouraged to talk about issues that may be impacting on them.

Self harm, most people I am aware of who have self harmed (in the conventional sense) were female. Mostly girls in my old class in school. Often punched a few walls, but never took a knife or blade to myself.

I did go on self-destruct drinking missions though as did other male friends. Some guy got crap results in a test, or broke up with a girlfriend. Nothing was really said apart from the usual 'ah she was a wagon anyway' or 'ah it's only a test'. Nothing was mentioned about emotions or how they were feeling. Was just understood and off we wandered to the pub and got absolutely maggoty.

It's a very complicated issue and has so many factors contributing to it.

Snowie

I think it generally stems from a number of things the biggest reason being
PRIDE.

Having suffered from Depression or something and felt about as worthless as well a blade of grass in a field. Suicide did come to my mind a number of times but its not something, I could ever do. I think men in general have to much pride to talk about there feelings especially amongst, friends father's.... Etc I think to a degree it's more so to do with I will look week towards my peers kinda thing.

That because were men we don't show our emotion's, where strong and can berry those issue that go on with in our mind/brain. But unfortunately that never work's. We have this, annoying mind set that we can work things out for our self. We are stubborn and generally, men do and will give of that impression that they have no problems.

From the point of few of what can be done. I admitted to my best friend, that i had problems, and he pulled me aside and reminded me of all the brave things I've done in the past this was before I went for counseling, but It was very humbling to have a friend to support you in that way.

As for modern day 18+ I think it can be stemmed from believing they have no future, which I did, knocked confidence self worth and self esteam from bullying with no aftercare. Girlfriends breaking up with you (sorry ladys I don't mean to vilinaise you but it has happened).. Dept could be another issue With credit card's loans etc you can easily work up a high amount of it which can be over bearing when you've ignored it. When you face reality you become very uncomfortable I can't really imagine whats going on at that stage to be honest and I don't think its fair to speculate.

I think it's education at the end of the day teacher's teach and kids want to learn whats taught and what they should be learning are to different things. Like schools teach you how foods cooked and the difference between molecules, and other academic stuff which is brilliant but is it needed.

Personally I think a lot more of education should be about developing the things in life that we don't know.
explaing about feelings and how train of thought can be so destructive But there not.

Kids are put under tremendous amounts of stress by teacher for junior and leaving cert :rolleyes: which to me is wrong. These pressures have caused suicide I didn't get the marks I needed my parents are going to kill me.
It's horrible. I think that modern society needs education in this and needs a wake up call.

Personally Id happilly walk into a class room of a bunch of 16 year olds in a school about depression and what can be done to help them but even that age is to old they should be learning about this in first year and aware of it.

Drugs kill so does depression yet its ignored, and when your climbing the walls of despair is hell. I think the education department really need to take there head out of the 1970s if you ask me

Stheno

Mystik Monkey wrote: »

Anyone care to voice an opinion on why so many more men commit suicide than women?

I read the article linked below back in 2001, it looks at the stats available at that time in relation to male suicide in Ireland and posits that a contributor is the sense of lack of "purpose/future/role" that young men may have as a result of societal changes in Irish Society which have led to women becoming more equal to men over the past 30/40 years, it's an interesting read and quite thought provoking.

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.com/pdf/earls.pdf

Will wrote: »

I think it all boils down to us guys not wanting to or being able to talk about our feelings. Not being able to verbalise emotions or talk about it, even with close friends. It's taboo.

As we seen in other threads there are pressures there on young lads to maintain the illusion of manliness and have a stiff upper lip. We are conditioned into behaving as such. Young teenagers need to be informed and encouraged to talk about issues that may be impacting on them.


It's a very complicated issue and has so many factors contributing to it.

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

That because were men we don't show our emotion's, where strong and can berry those issue that go on with in our mind/brain. But unfortunately that never work's. We have this, annoying mind set that we can work things out f
As for modern day 18+ I think it can be stemmed from believing they have no future, which I did,)

I'd agree with both of the above, there is also the more recent trend towards "clusters" of suicides in communities, a colleage recently had to attend the third funeral in his community of a young person who had committed suicide, one wonders what causes them?


Also how much does bullying/the need to fit in contribute? My sister attempted suicide at the age of seventeen after several years of bullying and harassment at school, thankfully she recovered and had counselling and is now doing well several years later. I would doubt that there is any extended family in rural Ireland that has not been impacted by suicide in some way over the past ten/fifteen years.

I've friends over the years who've worked in the different emergency services, and all have pretty harrowing tales of dealing with suicides. In some areas there was a pattern to certain suicides, following exams, exam results being one key time.

One friend during a discussion voiced a belief that they would consider young men who were killed in single vehicle/single occupant car accidents as potential suicides also, in some cases.

deadhead13

There has been a few threads on suicide on boards recently. I was struck by, but not at all suprised by, the lack of awareness and basic knowledge of what depression is and what the symptoms are.

I had a fairly severe bout of depression in my late teens, early 20's. I didn't know I was depressed, in fact I didn't know what the f**k was happening to me. Never spoke to anyone about. It took me 2 years to get up the nerve to go to a doctor. He was uncomfortable, as was I, prescribed me anti-depressants. I took them for awhile, felt worse and chuck them in the bin. Thankfully, I did eventually come through this, but it really was a case of there but for the grace of god......

I agree totally, mental health wellbeing should be part of the secondary school curriculum. But, is want happens when you do ask for help good enough? From what I understand congnitive behavioural therapy in conjunction with anti-depressants is the most effective treatment. Is it readily available in Ireland? Is prohibitably expensive? Is it easily accessible in the HSE? Maybe things have moved on a lot from my frankly bad experience with a doctor, or maybe I was just unlucky, But somehow I doubt it.

maherro

Personally I'd agree with both Will and Snow-Monkey in that a lack of communication and pride are the main causes.

The idea that you have no future is a powerful one especially when you take it in the context of modern childhoods. Every program tells you you're going to be great and be extremely successful. Young men can put themselves under a lot of pressure. Then when you wake up to real life and realise that you're not going to be a sports star, movie star, billionaire etc, its all the more brutal.


Well thats how I see at least some of the causes. Any other reasons?

ChewChew

I know 5 people who have commited suicide in the last 8 years of my life. All 5 were male and all for various reasons which was triggered by a form of depression each were suffering with. some serious, some not AS serious.

I know alot of people accuse people who commit suicide of being selfish but I personaly dont agree with that. I'll be honest though that I really did think it myself for a while and I got angry at people who did it. but I dont feel that way anymore because I really believe these people are so so vulnerable and at a point of their lives where they cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel and think that by commiting suicide they are doing their friends and family a favour! It's sooo sad and I really do not think there is enough awareness out there for anyone who might be feeling a bit low.

Some GP's are faaaaar too quick in handing out anti depressants and not enough referrals for their patients to go to a therapist. I think these GP's need some kind of training course with dealing with depression in their patients.

PANADOL

its completely logical for the people who do it , at the end of the day its their life to take , given the world we live in were their is no truth , chemically infused food, afecting our body chemistry and mood , big morgages , bad marriages , jobs people hate, our modern design for life is impossible , its makes perfect scense that it may be on the increase i for one would never talk anyone out of doing it its their life

Running Bing

PANADOL wrote: »

its completely logical for the people who do it , at the end of the day its their life to take , given the world we live in were their is no truth , chemically infused food, afecting our body chemistry and mood , big morgages , bad marriages , jobs people hate, our modern design for life is impossible , its makes perfect scense that it may be on the increase i for one would never talk anyone out of doing it its their life

I think people expect too much nowadays.

Think back 50 years ago, you had a job, you found a nice girl and got married, you had your home, now people may not have been out of their minds with happiness but most people were satisfied with that, they were content.

I think today with information about anything or anybody so accessible and with the media/advertising such an important part of our lives most people are never satisfied. There's always some reason to hate your job rather than being happy to have one, there's always some new scare about a food you should not be eating and the latest organic stuff you should. Everybody wants to be a celebrity. Just look at sites like twitter, people constantly feel the need to share info about themselves presumably because they think others are, or should be, interested in them. Everybody thinks its their god given right to be a huge success with a great job, a model wife and dozens of friends.


Very few people now are satisfied with just having a normal 9-5 job, a girlfriend and a few close friends. Ambition is a great thing, but there does come a time when people need to grow up and realise life is not perfect.

deadhead13

PANADOL wrote: »

its completely logical for the people who do it , at the end of the day its their life to take , given the world we live in were their is no truth , chemically infused food, afecting our body chemistry and mood , big morgages , bad marriages , jobs people hate, our modern design for life is impossible , its makes perfect scense that it may be on the increase i for one would never talk anyone out of doing it its their life

A clinically depressed mind is niether logical or rational. Almost all people who commit suicide have a diagnosable mental disorder. Which would suggest if they did not have that mental disorder they would not have killed themselves.

As many as 2/3 of people with depression do not realise they have a treatable illness and do not seek treatment. There is widespread mispreception and ignorance of the disease by the public.

Sympthons of Clinical depression :

- Persistently sad, anxious, or empty moods

- Loss of pleasure in usual activities

- Feelings of helplessness, guilt or worthlessness

- Crying, hopelessness, or persistent pessimism

- Fatigue or decreased energy

- Loss of memory, concentration, or decision-making capability

- Restlessness, irritability

- Sleep disturbances

- Change in appetite or weight loss

- Thought of suicide, death or suicide attempts

- Poor self-image or esteem

Someone experiencing one of the first 2 and at least 5 of the other symptoms could be class as clinically depressed.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/805459-overview

http://www.aware.ie/



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PANADOL

Running Bing wrote: »

I think people expect too much nowadays.

Think back 50 years ago, you had a job, you found a nice girl and got married, you had your home, now people may not have been out of their minds with happiness but most people were satisfied with that, they were content.

I think today with information about anything or anybody so accessible and with the media/advertising such an important part of our lives most people are never satisfied. There's always some reason to hate your job rather than being happy to have one, there's always some new scare about a food you should not be eating and the latest organic stuff you should. Everybody wants to be a celebrity. Just look at sites like twitter, people constantly feel the need to share info about themselves presumably because they think others are, or should be, interested in them. Everybody thinks its their god given right to be a huge success with a great job, a model wife and dozens of friends.


Very few people now are satisfied with just having a normal 9-5 job, a girlfriend and a few close friends. Ambition is a great thing, but there does come a time when people need to grow up and realise life is not perfect.

very balanced and reasonable comment

deadhead13

PANADOL wrote: »

very balanced and reasonable comment

As a piece of social commentary, perhaps - but as for it being a explanation for why people commit suicide, I would have to disagree.

PANADOL

deadhead13 wrote: »

As a piece of social commentary, perhaps - but as for it being a explanation for why people commit suicide, I would have to disagree.

people commit suicide because they dont want to live anymore thats the only why there can be

CDfm

I have often wondered if modern theories of social constructs that are taught to boys somehow contribute to this. Like its not nice to play with toyguns etc and this gets carried thru to later teens where guystuff is dumped on in the education system.

My son and his friends were around for a party in my house last night and they are in their late teens (average age 19)and a few cans were imbibed. One of the things that struck me was how supportive they are of each other and one of my sons friends who is gay was just as welcome and accepted as anyone else.

I dont know if that is reflected in society and my sons comment was that his orientation was natural but he felt his campness was socialised. Now I often think that its the same for others who are different say academically in school and cant cut the college route.

deadhead13

PANADOL wrote: »

people commit suicide because they dont want to live anymore thats the only why there can be

Yes, but why don't they want to live anymore? The root cause predominantly is mental illness, particulary clinical depression.

Otis Driftwood

I think a large part of male suicide is down to the underlying pressures of being a man.

IMO the 2 mains reasons for this are as follows.

1.We are expected to bottle up of emotions and be the strong,silent John Wayne type of man.

2.The onus is still on us to be a good provider for a family ie the major bread winner.When we cannot do this then we feel a failure.Im sad to say it but I do believe that male suicide will rise in numbers over the coming years because of the self imposed pressure and the idealogy that in order to be a man you must be able to financially support a family.

Nobody knows what goes through a persons mind when they decide to kill themselves.

There was a guy Id known for years,he was mid 30s,had his own very successful business,had over 50 employees,was engaged to a stunning woman,was after building a mansion of a house and was driving a brand new BMW.

One Sunday night about 18 months ago he put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.

On the exterior he had a perfect existence but for whatever reason he felt he had no other option but to take his own life.

He was the archetypel strong silent type and I believe its this reason that led to his death.

Male suicide will continue unabated until we learn to look after our own mental health.I cannot see it changing in my lifetime though,and thats the saddest thing of all.

Dr Galen

Running Bing wrote: »

I think people expect too much nowadays.

Think back 50 years ago, you had a job, you found a nice girl and got married, you had your home, now people may not have been out of their minds with happiness but most people were satisfied with that, they were content.

I think today with information about anything or anybody so accessible and with the media/advertising such an important part of our lives most people are never satisfied. There's always some reason to hate your job rather than being happy to have one, there's always some new scare about a food you should not be eating and the latest organic stuff you should. Everybody wants to be a celebrity. Just look at sites like twitter, people constantly feel the need to share info about themselves presumably because they think others are, or should be, interested in them. Everybody thinks its their god given right to be a huge success with a great job, a model wife and dozens of friends.


Very few people now are satisfied with just having a normal 9-5 job, a girlfriend and a few close friends. Ambition is a great thing, but there does come a time when people need to grow up and realise life is not perfect.

while I wouldn't put this type of thing down as the root cause of suicide, it makes sense that it could be a contributing factor to the underlying mental issues that so often accompany suicide. It's this pressure, among others that can lead to depression, lack of self worth etc which can make someone feel that ending their life is the only way out.

To say that people commit suicide because they simply don't want to live anymore is facile and doesn't address the underlying issues that go hand in hand with it.

Do people feel that that enough is done to promote having a healthy mental state in this country? Apart from a few sporadic adverts on TV, I don't see much national effort to try and engage with those at risk groups. It almost seems like mental illness s a taboo subject in Ireland, something that we brush under the carpet. Are young men unable or lack the knowledge to be able to go and seek help?

CDfm

I agree with you MM.

Male suicide outnumbers female something like 7 to 1.

In other generations you had worse economic conditions and emigration etc so you didn't have a land of milk and honey in Ireland.

PANADOL

Mystik Monkey wrote: »

while I wouldn't put this type of thing down as the root cause of suicide, it makes sense that it could be a contributing factor to the underlying mental issues that so often accompany suicide. It's this pressure, among others that can lead to depression, lack of self worth etc which can make someone feel that ending their life is the only way out.

To say that people commit suicide because they simply don't want to live anymore is facile and doesn't address the underlying issues that go hand in hand with it.

Do people feel that that enough is done to promote having a healthy mental state in this country? Apart from a few sporadic adverts on TV, I don't see much national effort to try and engage with those at risk groups. It almost seems like mental illness s a taboo subject in Ireland, something that we brush under the carpet. Are young men unable or lack the knowledge to be able to go and seek help?

i dont think suicide is mental illness i think its logic why is it that we cant accept that some people simply do not want to live anymore we have to muse the wheres and whys. why is that so hard to accept , maybe it scares us if we accept it forcing us all to question our reasons for existance mental illness is the scape goat ,to get clinical about it we are all mental to some degree, someone above posted the text book symptoms for clinical deppression a quick read of them made me conclude that probably 95 percent of people are probably clinically deppressed trying to put a frame on the human condition is an impossible science all we can do is to show love and be loving to our social circles after that its a free country if people want to take their lifes they will

Dr Galen

PANADOL wrote: »

i dont think suicide is mental illness

suicide is often caused by an underlying mental illness. That has been shown through numbers of research papers. Could I ask what your basing your opinion on?

CDfm

AFAIK -untreated depression is a huge factor along with alcohol and drug use.Self medication? -I don't know but anyone feeling depressed to the point of suicide should lay of the booze bigtime.

Without stereotyping women have a lot of support mechanisms whereas isolated young men don't. Are girls more group/team oriented and guys more solitary??

I also think women are more used to accessing health professionals for a number of "ordinary issues" that need medical advice so the jump to make contact is not huge. Whereas young guys don't have this contact.My GP is a woman and she tends to have to look up guy stuff (as the majority of her patients are women and kids) so we have chatted on lots of things. She knows me quite well and would talk about feelings-thats different.

There also is at at risk group that have had treatment in childhood that dont get or access aftercare as adults.My son has a friend 19 yo who has mental health problems and we have made sure to keep in touch- but only because we know and are sensitive to it.There was an event over the summer that we talked about and it was handy we did because he needed support. And to think guys go thru school and do sex ed and all kinds of stuff and this stuff never gets touched:rolleyes:

deadhead13

On a positive note I heard a radio advert today for Daisy Days, 12th - 14th of September, a campaign highlighting depression and suicide. Aware have also set up a depression awareness scheme for secondary schools called "Beat the Blues".

http://www.iol.ie/aware/4.htm

Unfortunatly, on a far from positive note, Amnesty International have deemed it necessary to launch a campaign protesting against the state of Mental Health Services in Ireland.

http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/live/irish/action/article.asp?id=3662&page=3801

"A Vision For change" - a HSE strategy document which set out the direction for Mental Health Services in Ireland was issued 3 years ago. Due to funding and work practices problems there has no progress in its implementation since.

http://www.imt.ie/opinion/2009/06/report_highlights_lack_of_prog.html

LightningBolt

Irish and British culture has a problem with people who need to go seek help. A little observation is tv shows. A lot of American shows will show various characters going off to see therapists, it's accepted over there and there's no shame in seeking help.

You'd be mocked over here by people if you told them you were seeing a therapist. We're supposed to bottle everything up and just get on with it, unfortunately I don't see that attitude changing any time soon.

PANADOL

Mystik Monkey wrote: »

suicide is often caused by an underlying mental illness. That has been shown through numbers of research papers. Could I ask what your basing your opinion on?

first thing to say here the greastest victims here are the ones left behind, mental illness to my mind is any deviation from the academic norm which is in effect a matamatical equation humanity is too diverse for such prepositions. in the minds of some people their view is they are better off dead than trying to cope with our design for life thats logic outside the norm ,is that mental illness?, or god given free will. i have heard it said that 80% of everthing is why and 20% is how, these people have lost their reasons for struggle, i dont agree with their view better be alive even if its sitting on a sod of turf in the west of ireland . but i take issue with people saying they are mentally ill, a recent study by dr gabriel cousins has concluded that removing sugar completely and absolutely from peoples diets has resulted in people who are deemed to have deppression what ever that is , resulted in them going off their meds this is a whole other debate though, as i see it we need food water shelter love and reason .to live

the_syco

Running Bing wrote: »

Think back 50 years ago, you had a job, you found a nice girl and got married, you had your home, now people may not have been out of their minds with happiness but most people were satisfied with that, they were content.

50 years ago there was no suicide stats. Suicide looks bad. So suicide never happened. Hanging from a tree? Accident. Hit a wall far from the road? Accident. Lots of accidents.

You're told not to cry, to be manily... mostly when women attempt suicide, it's a cry for help. It's done where they'll be found. When men do it, it's done. On a train track, hanging, shotgun, etc.

Rural suicide never jumped up. It was always there. It was just called something else.

CDfm

I don't think we are talking attempts here we are talking "successful" attempts.

I also think that the pressures were always there in some shape or form but suicide didn't happen, its a recent thing in the past 20 or so years.

the_syco

CDfm wrote: »

but suicide didn't happen, its a recent thing in the past 20 or so years.

Again, that's a load of bo||ox IMO. Since suicide is a sin, I'm unsure if suicide people get buried in the cementry, and thus were not reported as suicide, but accidental deaths. It prevents the shame, allows the family to grieve easier, and there are no stats.

You ony have stats on people killing themselves in the last 20 years or so, as that's when stats were took.

Delirium

CDfm wrote: »

I also think that the pressures were always there in some shape or form but suicide didn't happen, its a recent thing in the past 20 or so years.

Vincent Van Gogh committed suicide in 1890 according a quick look on the internet. And I also saw mention of suicide dating back to Roman times;)

CDfm

the_syco wrote: »

Again, that's a load of bo||ox IMO. Since suicide is a sin, I'm unsure if suicide people get buried in the cementry, and thus were not reported as suicide, but accidental deaths. It prevents the shame, allows the family to grieve easier, and there are no stats.

You only have stats on people killing themselves in the last 20 years or so, as that's when stats were took.

We are dealing with reported figures and the cause of death as suicide probably as determined by the coroner. A coroners verdict is a statement of fact and coroners verdicts of suicide were not normally reported in newspapers(unlike now). The stats predate that and if anything were more precise as the practices date from when you had the death penalty so they had to be.

There is also a huge difference in suicides between young men and young women in the region of 7 to 1.

I dont think religion has anything to do with it at all and as far as I know suicides have been buried in cemetaries since at least 1945 and probably before that as a grave next to the family plot in Wexford has a suicide in it. It doesnt say that on the gravestone of course.

If anything then the figure could be underreported.

Handsome Bob

I find that males, especially those who have grown up in male dominated environments, are absolutely terrified of talking due to the fear of being perceived as weak. Just look at this article

A report on mental health has revealed that a quarter of young gay or bisexual men in Northern Ireland have attempted suicide.



Nearly two-thirds considered killing themselves and 30% self harmed, according to the survey, which was carried out over three years by the Rainbow Project in Belfast.



The survey of 190 young gay or bisexual men revealed one third were diagnosed as having a mental illness at some time in their lives with almost as many having had a potential psychiatric disorder.


A quarter had attempted suicide and over two thirds thought about taking their own lives.



Four out of five who had thoughts of suicide indicated those were related to same sex attraction.


Among the key factors which contributed to suicidal thoughts and self harm were negative experiences in school such as bullying.


The findings of 'Out On Your Own' were released at a conference in Belfast opened by the Chief of the Equality Commission, Bob Collins.


The conference heard calls on the British government to ensure gay and bisexual students are provided with full protection and education.



The author of the report, Helen McNamee of the Rainbow Project, said it was imperative the recommendations were taken on board.



She said the mental health needs of young gay and bisexual men were addressed by everyone who works with young people.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0329/suicide.html

This is a perfect example of how young men feel like they cannot talk to those around them due to a fear of how they will be perceived.

One of the great things I find about the likes of Boards.ie is that it serves as a very valuable outlet for people who need to let it all out. The anonymity that is allowed on the likes of PI and LGBT gives people the confidence to talk, and as a result will find people who have gone through what they have, and who can as a result impart some invaluable advice.

People, especially young men, need to realise that there is life and hope outside of the bubble they feel trapped in.

Quality

deadhead13 wrote: »

On a positive note I heard a radio advert today for Daisy Days, 12th - 14th of September, a campaign highlighting depression and suicide. Aware have also set up a depression awareness scheme for secondary schools called "Beat the Blues".

http://www.iol.ie/aware/4.htm

Unfortunatly, on a far from positive note, Amnesty International have deemed it necessary to launch a campaign protesting against the state of Mental Health Services in Ireland.

http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/live/irish/action/article.asp?id=3662&page=3801

"A Vision For change" - a HSE strategy document which set out the direction for Mental Health Services in Ireland was issued 3 years ago. Due to funding and work practices problems there has no progress in its implementation since.

http://www.imt.ie/opinion/2009/06/report_highlights_lack_of_prog.html

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