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Would you emigrate???

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭fizzynicenice


    My good friend Jay left at the start of the year for Amsterdam and has never been happier! Will be joining him soon as I finish my apprenticeship.

    And anyone saying "**** off and take you negative vibes with you" can suck a d1ck. People leave home, people ex-patriate. It does not mean your un-patriotic to want to change your surroundings and expierience a new way of life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    As soon as I am qualified I am out of here for good. This country is a ****hole, the political parties are incompetant crooks, the weather is consistently $hite and so is the standard of living. Nobody knows the meaning of service in this country and our famed hospitality is about as genuine as a leprechaun.

    Good luck pretending otherwise while I enjoy my life elsewhere.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    RonMexico wrote: »
    As soon as I am qualified I am out of here for good. This country is a ****hole, the political parties are incompetant crooks, the weather is consistently $hite and so is the standard of living. Nobody knows the meaning of service in this country and our famed hospitality is about as genuine as a leprechaun.

    Good luck pretending otherwise while I enjoy my life elsewhere.

    Reality is only reality as your perceive it.
    I, for example, despise Australia. This is not to say that anybody else would despise Australia. Different strokes and all that. I can understand bitterness about the country but when I move again as I have done before (actually I wasn't born here) there will be things I will miss and always love Ireland for. There are many things I won't miss either. But even after living in the likes of San Francisco, after a while you start to spot the problems of every country. We're not necessarily any worse than anywhere else. Our problems might be different. And if you really cant see anything wrong with where you are either your J1 is about to run out or you're very lucky or you're easily pleased.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    I've lived abroad before and there wasn't a ****ing thing that I missed about Ireland. Sure there are problems everywhere but the quality of life here for me is non-existant. I was happy abroad, I'm ****ing miserable here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    RonMexico wrote: »
    I've lived abroad before and there wasn't a ****ing thing that I missed about Ireland. Sure there are problems everywhere but the quality of life here for me is non-existant. I was happy abroad, I'm ****ing miserable here.

    What is it you lack here that you have in other places? Just curious.. I mean with the right qualifications you can get jobs here, even now.

    It's hard to find decent jobs in other countries, as people are more likely to employ locals, unless you take a big cut in pay, and how would that make life better?

    I lived in SF for 2 years after finishing a media studies degree in college, worked for a removals company. It was a great experience and I enjoyed it, but I dunno if I'd want to settle down there.

    Are you sure it's not mostly the weather you hate about Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭You Suck!


    What is it you lack here that you have in other places? Just curious.. I mean with the right qualifications you can get jobs here, even now.

    Sorry to jump in, but I can't help but comment. What lacks in Ireland is access to a good job outside of Dublin, Also I enjoy the office culture more here, it's important to be comfortable in you work place.
    It's hard to find decent jobs in other countries, as people are more likely to employ locals, unless you take a big cut in pay, and how would that make life better?
    Not necessarily, although the factors you list are legitimate concerns. However I've also found that travel brings opportunity, The jobs I've had since I've left have been more satisfying and rewarding then my work in Ireland. The pay cut depends on the local economy, I am making far less then I did when I was in Dublin, However I am no longer having to spend a quarter on rent, and my potential to save here is far better. Also, for the first time in my working life, I can consider a mortgage thats affordable. So, I do have to say that my life is better monetarily.
    I lived in SF for 2 years after finishing a media studies degree in college, worked for a removals company. It was a great experience and I enjoyed it, but I dunno if I'd want to settle down there.
    I'm not so sure I want to settle abroad either ;) But for the moment, I'm not complaining. Same as yourself, There are places I've been, that although great, I wouldn't want to stay.

    I don't really hate anything about home, just the things that piss me off. When and if I do return on a permanent basis, I'll be hoping to do so more on my terms. The weathers another story ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭daniel91


    For myself, I'm starting university next week and the area of employment I'm looking at for the futher, it looks like I might have to emigrate.
    My parents emigrated to England in the 80's and then moved back to Ireland in the late 90's to rear the family, strange now their children are following in their footsteps so to speak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    There are obviously all kinds of reasons to leave. As I suggested i like the part of England I now live better than Dublin. If my job folded and I ahd to move to London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Glasgow, or Manchester I would go to Dublin. I know a lot about all those towns and Dublin is better, except for the very rich who live in London.

    However Bristol, the West Country, Oxford etc. are better than Dublin. I like smallish but not provincial cities. Anyway excaping Dublin to escape morgage costs will not be an issue in afew years in Ireland.
    My parents emigrated to England in the 80's and then moved back to Ireland in the late 90's to rear the family, strange now their children are following in their footsteps so to speak.

    This recession whilse very deep is not the Eighties. In the Eighties there was large sturtural unemplyment and unflexibile markets. Labour markets particularly. YOu have four years. When I went to college in 1992 - it was the then worst recession since the WWII. At least that is what they said at the time. When I left. Boom.

    4 years is a lot. Countries are coming out of recession now. Irelands exports are increasing. We;ve taken some hits on wages, and are more competitive. Property can never go so high again as there is such an overhang. Infrastructure is coming online.

    I lived in SF too. There is a city which is enjoyable in your twenties but which has a huuuuge amount of social problems, and political infighting, and generally bad service. Also it kinda disappears up its own arse. in reality the restaurants, architecture, bookshops, and theatre is as good as a small European city. And it's charm - you can walk it - is, well, generally true of most European cities too. Very nicely situated of course.

    And the lights kept going out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I was talking to my brother about this last night. He went back to Australia today after spending the past month over here and he's been living there since 1994. I'm just pissed off over here but I'm not sure if I could leave for the other end of the world. My brother was the age I am now (22) when he first left Ireland but I think his generation were a lot harder than mine. I don't want to leave my family, especially my parents (who are 68 now, and I see what it does to them with one son as it is in Australia). I just started a one year masters today in UCD when I would much rather be making some money because I couldn't get a job (and I mean that, I didn't sit on my ass, I had three interviews this Summer). There's only so much rejection and ****e talking about having no experience you can take before it eventually gets to you. So I really don't know, I think if by the end of next Summer that there is nothing going for me then I could well take my brother up on his offer and go over to Oz to him. However I think I will have to build myself up mentally fiercely over the next year in order to go. I'm just so bitter at this ****ing country right now.

    I don't want to hear any ****e either about having airs or graces about what I'm entitled to. I literally have no money and never go out at the weekend. I can never afford books for college. I'm not funded by "Daddy". I've scrubbed pots in kitchens. I've stacked shelves in Supermarkets. I have answered phones to disgruntled dicks who have no clue about what they are talking about. I've taken abuse off gambling losers (robbed in my first week too btw, and I still went into work the next day even though I was told to take a few days off). I've had more than my fair share of this crap. So what's the problem if I'd like to be thrown a bone in regards to the profession I have been studying for over the past four years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭yer man!


    Just wondering what people's opinion would be on emigrating now? 3 years since this was done so thought it would be worth a bump.

    For me, I would love to get out of here. I'm nearly 21 and have no ties to this country at all. I'm studying science and despite what the government are saying about jobs in this area, there are none!! I'm considering switching to engineering and then getting the hell out of this country. I was in the Netherlands recently and the attitude the dutch have is just so much better than here, they love their country and it's booming there. There's more equality and efficiency also.

    So would you emigrate now?


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