Canon eos 7d released

kumate_champ07

1700dollars
18mp 8fps!


http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-7D-Body-Only/dp/B002NEGTTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1251779777&sr=1-1

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090105canoneos7d.asp

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/

Ballyman

Is the number 6 evil or something??

dazftw

1.6x crop mmmm nice. I was wondering when I saw it so cheap.. "what did they leave out"

Its got video as well I can see that tempting alot of people!

gloobag

Built in flash master, new auto-focus system and 8fps will ensure that this camera sells by the bucket load. If it was full frame, I'd consider selling my 5DmkII for it.

Cabaal

now if I just had the money I could buy this while in the states

gloobag

Also has a built in horizon level in live view. I'm gonna be a bit jealous of anyone who gets this I think.

Duchovny

If its a crop and has 18mp im really curious to see the high ISO pictures, not sure if its a good buy looks a lot of mp for a small sensor but i might be wrong (I hope I'm)

Also its strange they call it 7D to a non full frame camera really cant understand there market way of thinking.

trishw78

gloobag wrote: »

Also has a built in horizon level in live view. I'm gonna be a bit jealous of anyone who gets this I think.

WHY? why would you want it, are they just adding it for the sake of something to add...

MartMax

yeah i think it's strange the way Canon deals with the naming system, especially it's a APS-C camera... i get the feeling 7D compliments 5DMK2, considering its high speed FPS and crop sensor.. it's like 5DMK2 in the sport and action fields....

if i had to upgrade myself from 40D, i'd still go for a 5DMK2 (purely bcoz i have a lust for a full frame body and 1D series is a bit over my budget)...

DotOrg

it also has a better movie mode:

The EOS 7D features an improved movie function allowing users to record Full HD movies with full manual control and selectable frame rates. The operation of the movie function has been improved to make it easier to use via direct access to settings with dedicated buttons. AF can now be started by either half pressing the shutter button or using the AF-ON button as before.

The exposure of the movie can be controlled in Manual mode allowing full control of shutter speeds and apertures. It is possible to select frame rates from: 30 (29.97), 25, and 24 (23.976), with 60 (59.94) and 50 available at 720p. ISO can be set automatically or manually in the range (100-6400) and is expandable to 12800. EOS 7D also allows users to trim and cut their movies.

The frame rate thing is what us 5DII owners want

MartMax

mmm.. Jessops has a pre-order price for 7D going at 1,699 pound ... and 5DMK2 selling at 2,040 pound... that's not much of a gap, only 350 pound... of course one could get them a lot cheaper somewhere else...

kmick

Im not sure that I would really want video from an slr. No crop would be much better.

gloobag

trishw78 wrote: »

WHY? why would you want it, are they just adding it for the sake of something to add...

As someone who shoots a lot of landscapes, I'd consider a virtual spirit level for my horizon lines to be quite a valuable feature.

I think on paper, this camera sounds excellent. If it was a full frame and the image/ISO quality was up to snuff, the wireless flash master feature alone would be enough to sway me.

I think the reason they named it the 7D is because they consider this a pro level camera. Crop sensor or not. Some photogs prefer cropped senors. Sports, wedding and wildlife shooters often prefer the likes of the 40/50D as it gives them more reach (and usually more fps).

mikeanywhere

gloobag wrote: »

Also has a built in horizon level in live view. I'm gonna be a bit jealous of anyone who gets this I think.

I can just see said owner standing there tilting the camera back and forth just to watch the level go different ways

homerun_homer

7D sounds good, but was there supposed to be a 60D coming out?

Cabaal

homerun_homer wrote: »

7D sounds good, but was there supposed to be a 60D coming out?

6 is the number of the devil? :pac:

AnimalRights

gloobag wrote: »

Built in flash master, new auto-focus system and 8fps will ensure that this camera sells by the bucket load. If it was full frame, I'd consider selling my 5DmkII for it.

Same here.

gloobag

homerun_homer wrote: »

7D sounds good, but was there supposed to be a 60D coming out?

I'd say we'll still see a 60D, probably soon. Maybe it'll be a "budget" full frame With full HD video of course. . .

Ok, maybe just the video then.

kumate_champ07

got an email from an Irish Canon agent today

Pricing & Availability:
Guide price €1300 ex VAT.
For information on availability please contact Image Supply Systems on 01 478 2520
or email sales@imagesupplysystems.com


if the high iso is good I'd be tempted

PaulieC

it looks to have the same body as the 40D/50D and has a built in flash. Along with the aps-c sensor, I would consider this as an upgrade to this line rather than the 5DMKII.
Can on also released 2 new ef-s IS lenses, 18-85 and 18-135 and a 100mm F2.8 L IS macro (yummy)

Gozo

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239

Good review of beta version of 7D, also has some images comparing ISO performance of 7D to 5D mark II

gloobag

Gozo wrote: »

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239

Good review of beta version of 7D, also has some images comparing ISO performance of 7D to 5D mark II

Doesn't seem to be up to the standard of the 5DmkII in terms of noise, but still doesn't look too bad at all.

PaulieC

Gozo wrote: »

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239

Good review of beta version of 7D, also has some images comparing ISO performance of 7D to 5D mark II

very interesting indeed. I like the remote flash command capabilities, amongst other things

kumate_champ07

Gozo wrote: »

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239

Good review of beta version of 7D, also has some images comparing ISO performance of 7D to 5D mark II

Im not that impressed with the high iso performance so far, tho its good for 18mp but those files have been downsampled anyway

kumate_champ07

on the Canon 7d USA page they have a 1gb CF card for 84.99!

Borderfox

I can see a lot of 100mm macro lenses going up on Adverts to make way for the Red ring one!!

Spec on the body looks great

Mycroft H

i've seen a few high iso samples 800+, and it doesnt impress me at all. Give me a d300 any day.

Borderfox

Just checked the high ISO and it dont look good, pixel pitch is tiny too.

smash

Very handy to have the built in flash. I'd love to play with one for an afternoon!

gloobag wrote: »

Also has a built in horizon level in live view. I'm gonna be a bit jealous of anyone who gets this I think.

You could always just buy an Ee-d focusing screen...

trishw78

gloobag wrote: »

As someone who shoots a lot of landscapes, I'd consider a virtual spirit level for my horizon lines to be quite a valuable feature.

I like shooting landscapes as well but my tripod head has 2 spirit levels and I have an attachable spirit level for the hotshoe.

mick-skyline

dazftw wrote: »

1.6x crop mmmm nice. I was wondering when I saw it so cheap.. "what did they leave out"

Its got video as well I can see that tempting alot of people!

i dont see the point in having video on a picture camera, you want video get a video camera.

Duchovny

trishw78 wrote: »

I like shooting landscapes as well but my tripod head has 2 spirit levels and I have an attachable spirit level for the hotshoe.

Spirit levels are fine but if you can have it built in why to have have extras?
And a normal spirit level at night might be a struggle as well.

homerun_homer

mick-skyline wrote: »

i dont see the point in having video on a picture camera, you want video get a video camera.

Doesn't bother me personally, it's a feature I'd like to get more interested in yet wouldn't ever go out and buy a camcorder. Maybe if they had 2 versions with different pricing to satisfy those who would want the camera without video and having to pay extra would do consumers happy.

dazftw

mick-skyline wrote: »

i dont see the point in having video on a picture camera, you want video get a video camera.

I totally agree with you on that! I just see alot of silly people wanting video on one for whatever reason.

Ricky91t

Damn,If I didn't have a 1D I'd probably save for one of these,And although I hate the 1.3x crop(due to me not being able to afford a decent telephoto and 200mm being quite short) you can't beat the 1D's build quality...

Oh well,I'll get it as a back up one day :pac:

Carrigman

The 7D is one sweet looking camera with very impressive specs and a reasonable price.

I'm writing my letter to Santa tonight!

Regards,

decsramble

It does look like a nice camera all right. I'd have to wait to see the genuine reviews of high ISO noise before I add it to my wish list but at the moment if everything is as good as it sounds it could be a nice replacement for my old 40D next year or so.

Fajitas!

dazftw wrote: »

I totally agree with you on that! I just see alot of silly people wanting video on one for whatever reason.

I'm far from silly, and love having HD video on my camera

rahtkennades

mick-skyline wrote: »

i dont see the point in having video on a picture camera, you want video get a video camera.

Well to be fair, if you end up with a HD video camera that you can attach professional quality lenses to, as well as a very good quality stills camera, I don't see the downside!

Edit: Oh, and I'll be saving hard after xmas to replace old betsy here!

DotOrg

mick-skyline wrote: »

i dont see the point in having video on a picture camera, you want video get a video camera.

because you can easily change lenses and also have fantastic depth of field, all in full HD with great low light abilities

the same results can be got with proper professional cameras but to get the same results as the 5DII or 7D can do, you have to spend almost hundreds of thousands if you want all the lens choices.


go watch some of these:
http://www.cinema5d.com/videolog.php

eas

gloobag wrote: »

Built in flash master, new auto-focus system and 8fps will ensure that this camera sells by the bucket load.

I think it's going to be a great camera, but the d300 has the specs above and it's 2 years old. Not interested in starting the usual debate, just an observation.

Borderfox

Read this off an email from Calumet, looking at the results (albeit a beta version) from Rob Galbraith it doesnt hold up

Every feature of the EOS 7D is engineered for active photographers with active subjects. Most importantly: the camera is fast/fast/fast, propelled by dual DIGIC 4 processors. These handle heavy, complex data without skipping a beat: bursts at 8fps, noise reduction at ISO 6400 that looks like DIGIC III's ISO 1600, full speed read and write on UDMA cards.

eshortie

Yet another APS Sensor with too many megapixels.

Canon don't see that 12 Meagpixels is loads for most people, and especaially on an APS sensor. I'd rather 10-12 Megapixels with low noise (D700) than 18 with noise (7D).

They should stop the megapixel marketing crap. ISO 1600 is the same if not worse than my 400D here:

http://ftp.robgalbraith.com/public_files/Canon_EOS_7D_ISO1600_Reggae.jpg

kumate_champ07

DotOrg wrote: »

because you can easily change lenses and also have fantastic depth of field, all in full HD with great low light abilities

the same results can be got with proper professional cameras but to get the same results as the 5DII or 7D can do, you have to spend almost hundreds of thousands if you want all the lens choices.


go watch some of these:
http://www.cinema5d.com/videolog.php

ye not alot of people realise this. consumer hd video cams dont have 'big' sensors, they cant get the same narrow 'film like' DOF as dslr's,
and adding video to them doesnt really cost extra money. why complain about something when u dont have to use it, its a bonus!

personally Id love hd video on a dslr, Ive always wanted to experiment with 'motion pictures', the more creative posibilites available the better

Fionn

i have Full Motion Video on my G10 - dont use it often but it's nice to have it there just in case an oppertunity does arise, also good for other things like tutorials on anything thats easier to show rather than explain in text or speech.
I'd say it's a definate bonus to have - wish i had it on my other cameras - i could imagine macro/or wide wide angle could be quite interesting in FMV

Pint

Looking at it from a photographer's point of view, yeah its not amazing. Definitely some improvements on the current 50D but nothing spectacular minus some of the cool little features like the the 100% viewfinder with new overlays, the built in speedlite control, and I guess the wireless transfer if you used it. FF would have been nice but I can see why they didn't include it, it would destroy 5DmkII sales if they had.

But looking at it from a video standpoint, its pretty awesome. They worked out the major kinks of the 5DmkII, minus the audio gain...ugh. Plus the 1.6 crop is good for video, its basically a Super35 FOV now and full frame video is just weird looking. It can't completely replace a dedicated video camera just yet, but it sure has its appeal.

AnimalRights

My GF is going to NY at the end of November, curious if this will be available in B&H and wondering if I should get it to replace my 40D as a backup to my 5D II, reason being is that some gigs I go too literally have sod all light and the 5DII is struggling to focus....I've also heard about the pre flash that comes from a flash?? that might help? (With the 5D II focus)
Is it worth my while using a 7D for gig shots if the AF and the likes get a good review or is it a step back from the 5D II....
I don't really do landscapes...I'm also thinking will I even use the 5D II much, when I bought the 5D II I barely ever use the 40D now.

Valentia

AnimalRights wrote: »

My GF is going to NY at the end of November, curious if this will be available in B&H and wondering if I should get it to replace my 40D as a backup to my 5D II, reason being is that some gigs I go too literally have sod all light and the 5DII is struggling to focus....I've also heard about the pre flash that comes from a flash?? that might help? (With the 5D II focus)
Is it worth my while using a 7D for gig shots if the AF and the likes get a good review or is it a step back from the 5D II....
I don't really do landscapes...I'm also thinking will I even use the 5D II much, when I bought the 5D II I barely ever use the 40D now.

Unless you do sports or nature I don't see the point in upgrading from the 40D. For me it is definitely worth selling the 40D and having the 7D as an addition to the 5DMkII. F
For those wishing it was a FF. It's not a full frame for a lot of reasons. It's the 1.6 crop that's one of the main positives for me.

On price...it works out at around €1200 in the states. Incredible value.

AnimalRights

Ya...think you're agreeing with me lol, selling the 40D probably to a mate for €490.
7D is def going to be a back up to 5D II....
If the AF is better for night it will be used a lot.

kumate_champ07

you could try switching to single auto focus points.
7d is supposed to have very good autofocus, but they said that about the high iso performance and the sample photos dont show that!

wersal gummage

AnimalRights wrote: »

My GF is going to NY at the end of November, curious if this will be available in B&H and wondering if I should get it to replace my 40D as a backup to my 5D II, reason being is that some gigs I go too literally have sod all light and the 5DII is struggling to focus....I've also heard about the pre flash that comes from a flash?? that might help? (With the 5D II focus)
Is it worth my while using a 7D for gig shots if the AF and the likes get a good review or is it a step back from the 5D II....
I don't really do landscapes...I'm also thinking will I even use the 5D II much, when I bought the 5D II I barely ever use the 40D now.

animal rights - just gonna preface this by saying i dont know anything about gig photography and the only flash use i've ever done is on auto flash.

could you buy an external flash for you 5D and just use the little red light thing to help you focus - but not actually use the flash ????? maybe some clever person on here could tell you if thats possible or not. when i use my camera, wiht the 430EX - a little red light comes on my flash to help autofocus - before the flash actually fires. just wonder whether there's some manual flash control that lets you use that to assist in the focusing, but doesn't fire the flash. does that make sense ?