Best 11 outside top 4 and man city

daniel91

Green (West Ham)

Corluka(Spurs) Jagielka (Everton) Warnock (Villa) Baines (Everton)

Young (Villa) Parker (West Ham) Cahill (Everton) Arteta (Everton)

Defoe (Spurs) Agbonlahor (Villa)

If I was to have subs:
Jaaskelianen (Bolton)
King (Spurs)
Kranjcar (Spurs)
Ricardson (Sunderland)
Keane (Spurs)

So what's your best 11 outside the top 4 and Man city?

GLaDOS

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Schwarzer

Corluka - Hangeland - Jagielka - Warnock

Lennon - Cahill - Petrov - Young

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Bent - Defoe

Eire-Dearg

Howard (Everton)

Corluka (Spurs) Hangeland (Fulham) Jagiekla (Everton) Warnock (Aston Villa)

Arteta (Everton) Cahill (Everton) Modric (Spurs) Young (Aston Villa)

Defoe (Spurs) Agbonlahor (Aston Villa)

Subs:

Robert Green
Leighton Baines
Aaron Lennon
Robbie Keane

daniel91

Crap! forgot about Modric!

bUILDERtHEbOB

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Schwarzer

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Corluka--King----Upson--Baines

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Palacios

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Arteta

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Modric

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Lennon

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Young

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Carew

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Eire-Dearg

None of these teams would win the league IMO.

JPA

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Howard

Corluka Upson Jagielka Baines

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Palacios Petrov

Milner ---Modric ---- Young

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Cole




slight bias

Running Bing

I assume you lads are'nt including Ledley King because of his injury issues?

My (incredibly biased but imo reasonable) team would be:

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Schwarzer

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Corluka----King

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Hangeland--Baines

Lennon----Palacios--Modric----Young

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Defoe----Agbonlahor

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Raging I cant find a spot for Arteta...could easily be in there instead of Modric. Likewise Cahill could be there instead of Palacios and Jagielka or Woodgate instead of Hangeland (or if we're taking Ledley Kings injuries ito account instead of him).

Second striker to partner Defoe is tough....seems to be a shortage of top quality strikers outside the top 4+city. To be frank and honest I put Agbonlahor because it would be just silly if I put Keane.;)

Not that impressive a team though...agree with Eire-dearg it wouldnt win the league and probably wouldnt even come top 4.

DSB

Green (West Ham)

Corluka(Spurs) Hangeland (Fulham) Ferdinand (Sunderland) Baines (Everton)

Young (Villa) Modric (Spurs) Cahill (Everton) Arteta (Everton)

Carew (Villa) Keane (Spurs)

Mr.Nice Guy

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Green

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Corluka

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Upson

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King

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Baines---

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Palacios

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S. Petrov

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Lennon

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Young---

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Defoe

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Keane

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Helix

agbonlahor? are you all insane?

jesus christ

Mr Alan

Helix wrote: »

agbonlahor? are you all insane?

jesus christ

everytime i agree with you a little piece of me dies inside

Running Bing

Helix wrote: »

agbonlahor? are you all insane?

jesus christ

Like I said..there are'nt many top quality forwards outside top 4 and city's.

dogpile

...............Higgs

Crowe Naylor Kisnorbo Parker

Snodgrass Killkenny Doyle Johnson

........... Beckford Bechio


what??? :rolleyes:

CR 7

Schwarzer

Corluka Nesta Chiellini Kilbane

Arteta Palacios

Young Modric Lennon

Eto'o




:pac:



(may have taken the title too literally)

Melion

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Jaaskeleinen

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Corluka----Woodgate--Upson----Baines

Young

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Cahill

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Noble----Kranjcar

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Carew----Defoe

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Would definitely challenge for top 4

Gillington

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Schwarzer

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Corluka----Heitinga

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Dunne

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Baines

Modric

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Cahill

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Arteta

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Young---

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Defoe

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Bent

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Wow thats hard,thats why I had to add Dunne and Heitinga in!

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Schwarzer

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-Corluka----King

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Dunne--Baines

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Palacios

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Arteta

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Modric

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Keane

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Young

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Defoe

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The 4-2-1-2-1

Kold

Is Corluka really that uncontested?

JPA

Kold wrote: »

Is Corluka really that uncontested?

Luke Young is very good and Corluka offers next to nothing going forward.
I still picked him though as he's very solid, more of a CB IMO.

Kold

Well that's just it, he could be quicker.

everdead.ie

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Schwarzer

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Corluka----Hangeland

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Upson

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Assou-Ekotto

Lennon

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Cahill

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Modric

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Young---

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Defoe

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Keane

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curry-muff

This thread just highlights the difference between top and bottom in the premiership, not one of these teams would beat any of the top four.

Nalz

Friedel (Villa)

Corluka(Spurs) Upson (West Ham) Faye (Stoke City) Baines (Everton)

Young (Villa) Arteta (Everton) Cahill (Everton) Duff (Fulham)

Defoe (Spurs) Saha (Everton)

this team would beat United and Liverpool the way they're playing!

therecklessone

curry-muff wrote: »

This thread just highlights the difference between top and bottom in the premiership, not one of these teams would beat any of the top four.

Really? Running Bing's team has six of the players who helped Spurs to a 2-1 win over Liverpool on the opening weekend, I'd say his might do a job...

Neil3030

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Friedel

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Young---Cuellar---Dunne--Warnock

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Petrov--ReoCoker

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Milner

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Delph

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Young

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Carew

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:cool:

JPA

Neil3030 wrote: »

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Friedel

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Young---Cuellar---Dunne--Warnock

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Petrov--ReoCoker

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Milner

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Delph

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Young

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Carew

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:cool:

High fives!!

Helix

Running Bing wrote: »

Like I said..there are'nt many top quality forwards outside top 4 and city's.

carew is infinitely better for starters, and thats without even looking past the villa

Helix

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howard

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young---dunne

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jagielka---warnock

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palacios

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milner----cahill

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arteta----young

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bent

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heyjude

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James

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--Corluka

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Woodgate----King

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Baines--

--Lennon

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Petrov

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Arteta

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Young--

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Yakubu

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Defoe

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rossie1977

therecklessone wrote: »

Really? Running Bing's team has six of the players who helped Spurs to a 2-1 win over Liverpool on the opening weekend, I'd say his might do a job...

in a one off game anybody can beat anybody else as barnsley proved only 2 years ago by beating liverpool at anfield and chelsea at the bridge (two champions league semi finalists a month or so later) all within a few weeks

i think the other poster worded it wrong, would any of these teams finish top 4, the answer probably not

Bounty Hunter

curry-muff wrote: »

This thread just highlights the difference between top and bottom in the premiership, not one of these teams would beat any of the top four.

the thing it highlights for me is the difference in quality positionally with the teams being talked about with AM being far stronger than any other position imo and some real quality players to be found here, for instance just at Vill/Spurs/Everton:

Ashley Young, Luka Modric, Tim Cahill, James Milner, Aaron Lennon, Mikel Arteta
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my team:

.........................James

Corluka......Jagielka.......King....Warnock

................Arteta.....Palacios

Milner............Cahill/Modric..........A.Young

....................Defoe/Carew

Subs: Friedel, Dunne, Baines, Noble, Lennon, Cahill/Modric, Keane, Defoe/Carew .... yes ive 1 extra sub

curry-muff

rossie1977 wrote: »

in a one off game anybody can beat anybody else as barnsley proved only 2 years ago by beating liverpool at anfield and chelsea at the bridge (two champions league semi finalists a month or so later) all within a few weeks

i think the other poster worded it wrong, would any of these teams finish top 4, the answer probably not

Yeah i took a second look at it, and i did sorta mean that they wouldnt win anything, im not fond of the defence, never rated lennon apart from his speed and certainly dont think agbonglahor is good enough for a top four team. Now if you threw citys players into the bargaining i think we could make a team that could challenge for the title.

Pro. F

............................Schwarzer
Paintsil..Hangaland..Jagielka..Baines
.......................Palacios.....Petrov
Lennon................Modric...............Young
..................................Cole

I don't think that the teams we've put up here have highlighted the difference in class between the big 4 (and city) and the rest of the league at all. A lot of these players would have a reasonable chance of getting into the top four starting teams if they were signed imo. For example: Palacios, Modric and Young into United and Liverpool; Hangaland/Jags into Arsenal; Schwarzer into Chelsea.

(at the risk of stating the obvious ) The real difference between the big four and the teams snapping at their heels is the depth of their squads imo.

pierrot

Outside the top four, eh??? Try

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Carragher Insua

Lucas Mascherano

Kuyt Gerrard Benayoun

Torres


...;)
But seriously speaking, the challenge with this, er, challenge, is in the full back positions. Corluka and Baines seem to be getting the nod, however I`d suggest McCartney from Sunderland for LB. Are there no good right backs in the rest of the league? Melchiot? Paintsil? Reo-Coker, even. Our own Stephen Kelly?

This would be my own pick.

Friedel


P Neville Hangeland Upson McCartney


Palacios Fellaini

Arteta Cahill Modric

Bent

Running Bing

everdead.ie wrote: »

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Schwarzer

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Corluka----Hangeland

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Upson

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Assou-Ekotto

Lennon

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Cahill

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Modric

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Young---

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Defoe

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Keane

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Glad to see somebody put in Assou- Ekkotto. He was tremendous last season and seems to be developing into a quality player. Very underrated.

Third_Echelon

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Howard

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Heitinga

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Jagielka

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Distin

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Baines

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Rodwell

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----Pienaar

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Arteta

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Bilyaletdinov

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Cahill

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Yakubu

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Subs: Saha, Jo, Felliani, Hibbert, Osman, P Neville, Yobo, Gosling

:pac:


oooppps wrong thread..... i'll get my coat!

therecklessone

Running Bing wrote: »

Glad to see somebody put in Assou- Ekkotto. He was tremendous last season and seems to be developing into a quality player. Very underrated.

In fairness, everdead is a Spurs fan...;)

SK1979

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Friedel

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Melchiot---King---Upson---Warnock

Lennon---Palacios---Noble---Krancjar

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Defoe----Carew

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LuckyLloyd

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Friedal

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Corluka

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Hageland

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Woodgate

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Baines

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Palacios

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Sharner

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Lennon

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Modric

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Young

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Keane (C)

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Genuinely surprised that Sharner hasn't made a single list thus far.

daniel91

If we were to included Man City in the choices would it just be the whole Man City statring 11?
Given, Bridge, Toure, Lesscott, Richards
Barry, Wright-Philips, Ireland, Robinho
Adebyhor, Tevez

3hn2givr7mx1sc

daniel91 wrote: »

If we were to included Man City in the choices would it just be the whole Man City statring 11?
Given, Bridge, Toure, Lesscott, Richards
Barry, Wright-Philips, Ireland, Robinho
Adebyhor, Tevez

Yes.

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James

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Corluka---Dunne--Upson---Baines
Lennon---Palacios--Modric--Young

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Defoe---Bent

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mormank

anyone who thinks taht a best of the rest team would not seriously challenge for a top four spot is crazy TBH!! Villa seriously challenged for a top four spot last year and in theory they would be allowed draft in ANY player from any of fourteen other teams....of course they would challenge for and probably finish up on the top four at least...think about it...






































no i mean, really think about it..just let it sink in for a while then reply...

curry-muff

Sorry still dont think they would make top 4

mormank

in fact i reckon just an aston villa/everton 'all star' team would at least challenge for the top four.

Howard/friedal

Young Dunne Jagielka Baines/Warnock

Arteta Petrov Neville/sidwell Young

Yakubu Gabbie

now you add in players from even just spurs like defoe. keane. lennon. king and i think you have yourself a side more than capable of challenging for e top four spot and i think they would make it....

Mr Alan

i still think that these teams are missing those really top quality players that the top 4 all have a couple of.

MementoMori

I find it odd that Spurs are excluded from this considering the current squad costs twice what the Arsenal squad cost and about £40m more than Liverpool.

Spurs £180m
Liverpool £140m
Arsenal £90m

Also I think there is a bit of confusion about what exactly is meant by challenging the top four. It's one thing to maybe get into the top four if one of the top four teams has a bad year; it's a whole other level to challenge for the title.

Helix

a best of the rest would win the league

Mr Alan

i dont think so

still no striker as good as Torres,Drogba,AM as good as lampard/gerrard, midfielders as good as essien/fabregas, defenders as good as Vidic/Carvalho, or goalies as good as cech or reina

Eire-Dearg

Surprised by the lack of Jaglieka being selected, whereas Woodgate and King - both injured too, and both very good players, are getting a lot of mentions.

Phil Jagiekla is a really fantastic CB.

invincibleirish

Mr Alan wrote: »

i dont think so

still no striker as good as Torres,Drogba,AM as good as lampard/gerrard, midfielders as good as essien/fabregas, defenders as good as Vidic/Carvalho, or goalies as good as cech or reina

4 of those players mentioned have not won the league either, so they not good enough either?.