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Best 11 outside top 4 and man city

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  • #52
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    maybe not, but you get my point :)


  • #53
    Iago
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    Friedal

    Young----Woodgate--Jaglieka
    Baines

    Lennon---Modric
    Palacios----Young
    Yakubu
    Defoe


  • #54
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Schwarzer

    P. Neville
    King
    Jagielka
    Baines

    Lennon
    Palacios----Cahill
    Young
    Modric
    Saha


    The lack of Tim Cahill in people's teams disappoints me, such a consistent player.


  • #55
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    mormank wrote: »
    anyone who thinks taht a best of the rest team would not seriously challenge for a top four spot is crazy TBH!! Villa seriously challenged for a top four spot last year and in theory they would be allowed draft in ANY player from any of fourteen other teams....of course they would challenge for and probably finish up on the top four at least...think about it...

    villa amassed their highest points total last year in 13 years and still finished 10 points behind 4th placed arsenal (having a poor season by their standards), sure 62 or 63 points would have got you fourth or maybe even third in 1996 or 1997 but man utd and chelsea have raised the bar in the last 5 years, liverpool would have won the league on numerous occasions in the 1990s with 86 points from 38 matches, man utd won the league in 1997 (i think) with 75 points, that points tally means they would have barely finished ahead of arsenal last year in 3rd place


  • #56
    JPA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,792 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Schwarzer

    P. Neville
    King
    Jagielka
    Baines

    Lennon
    Palacios----Cahill
    Young
    Modric
    Saha


    The lack of Tim Cahill in people's teams disappoints me, such a consistent player.


    He's a difficult one to place in a team.
    In your team for example he would never work in central midfield.


  • #57
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    JPA wrote: »
    He's a difficult one to place in a team.
    In your team for example he would never work in central midfield.

    Its true to be fair. I'd see him, Palacios and Modric as a nice threesome though, Wilson providing the bite, Modric the playmaker and Cahill the box to box goalscoring midfielder. With Lennon and Yound the speedmerchants on the wings, I think you have a little bit of everything.


  • #58
    Samurai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Samurai


    flahavaj wrote: »
    I'd see him, Palacios and Modric as a nice threesome though
    :pac:


  • #59
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    i dont think so

    still no striker as good as Torres,Drogba,AM as good as lampard/gerrard, midfielders as good as essien/fabregas, defenders as good as Vidic/Carvalho, or goalies as good as cech or reina

    i dont think that matters tbh

    chelsea are the only team to have all of that, but they still havent wont the league in how many years?

    the xi i posted would win the league comfortably imo


  • #60
    eddiehead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭eddiehead


    Helix wrote: »
    i dont think that matters tbh

    chelsea are the only team to have all of that, but they still havent wont the league in how many years?

    the xi i posted would win the league comfortably imo

    That side wouldn't win the league, let alone win it comfortably.

    Man for man Chelsea are stronger in every position (maybe not on the wings), United, Liverpool and Arsenal would be stronger in most positions too.


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  • #61
    Running Bing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    i still think that these teams are missing those really top quality players that the top 4 all have a couple of.



    Yep agree...the Gerrard or Fabregas player, thats whats missing (As a Spurs fan I feel our team is there or there abouts with any of these teams but we lack those one or two truly world class players so will always find it hard to compete.)


  • #62
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Arsenal:Fabregas
    Liverpool:Torres,Gerrard
    United:Vidic,Ferdinand,Rooney(just to keep people happy!)
    Chelsea: Drogba,Lampard,Essien

    no matter wat team you come up with from outside the top 4, it won't have players as good as those, which is why the top is so strong, imo.


  • #63
    wynters
    Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭wynters


    Jaaskelainen

    L.Young --- Davies --- Jaglieka ---- Bouma
    Reo-Coker

    Lennon
    Arteta
    Young
    Defoe
    Carew


  • #64
    mormank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭mormank


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    this team would qualify for the top four easily enough i reckon.

    the main point here being that to get into the top four this team would not have to play chelsea or Utd week in week out and i reckon this team would accumulate enough points over the course of a season to reach a top four spot...

    now having said that teams dont play on paper as we all know so this team may not make the top four, however it is more than capable of doing it. i really dont think that fact can be argued....but carry on anyway!!!!!


  • #65
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Schwarzer
    Corluka----Jagielka----King
    Baines
    Palacios
    Arteta
    Modric
    Young
    Defoe
    Cole


  • #66
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    mormank wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    this team would qualify for the top four easily enough i reckon.

    the main point here being that to get into the top four this team would not have to play chelsea or Utd week in week out and i reckon this team would accumulate enough points over the course of a season to reach a top four spot...

    now having said that teams dont play on paper as we all know so this team may not make the top four, however it is more than capable of doing it. i really dont think that fact can be argued....but carry on anyway!!!!!
    I really don't agree, I think the Big Four all have better teams even on paper, not to mention the psychological edge they have of being already established as top 4 teams.


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  • #67
    mormank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭mormank


    well ok but in an effort to not end up going round in circles can we agree at least that this team would mount a SERIOUS challenge for a top four spot??? cos really this is all i have the issue with, everton made the top four a few years back and villa challenged last year so it only makes sense that a team of villa ability with some healthy additions from other clubs outside the new perceived top 5....


  • #68
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Tim Howard

    Pantsil Hangeland King Figueroa

    Palacios Danny Murphy

    Milner Modric Ash Young

    Kenwyne Jones


  • #69
    VinylJunkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    edit never mind


  • #70
    Pro. F
    Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    still no striker as good as Torres,Drogba,AM as good as lampard/gerrard, midfielders as good as essien/fabregas, defenders as good as Vidic/Carvalho, or goalies as good as cech or reina

    I think the likes of Schwarzer, Freidal, Jagielka, Hangaland, King and Woodgate, would be close to the quality of the corresponding players you mentioned. And when you look at the depth of quality the rest of the league holds up well in defence imo.

    But i agree with you about the attacking players. The rest of the league just doesn't have that quality of match winner.

    I don't think any team has won the PL without at least one world class attacking player.

    But those players are needed to win the league not to get into the top four. I would say the best of the rest team has a great chance of finishing 3rd/4th.


  • #71
    eirebhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    2 or 3 people have Kranjcar over Modric. They're on completely different levels imo.


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  • #72
    Kold
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I think most of these teams would beat Liverpool.


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