The Angelus

robindch · 19-09-2009 11:58am

CDfm wrote: »

The Angelus has more support than I thought.

Still and all, you'd wonder how many were tuning in for the angelus and how many were tuning in for the news and catching the angelus by mistake.

CDfm · 19-09-2009 12:02pm

robindch wrote: »

Still and all, you'd wonder how many were tuning in for the angelus and how many were tuning in for the news and catching the angelus by mistake.

I lived outside Ireland and once switched over to Prime Time instead of Don't Feed the Gondolas. Willie O'Dea was on and was hilarious.

That said - 10% of Catholic households tuning into the Angelus would be in line with what I would expect.

lostexpectation · 19-09-2009 7:24pm

robindch wrote: »

Still and all, you'd wonder how many were tuning in for the angelus and how many were tuning in for the news and catching the angelus by mistake.

exactly!

Now there’s grist to the mill for those avid letter writers who have been campaigning for years to get the Angelus taken off the schedule of the State broadcaster.

and they call us pettty

Flamed Diving · 20-09-2009 6:56pm

CDfm wrote: »

I lived outside Ireland and once switched over to Prime Time instead of Don't Feed the Gondolas. Willie O'Dea was on and was hilarious.

That said - 10% of Catholic households tuning into the Angelus would be in line with what I would expect.

All assumptions. Anything to squeeze that square peg in.

CDfm · 20-09-2009 7:22pm

Flamed Diving wrote: »

All assumptions. Anything to squeeze that square peg in.

RTE claims its the most watched religious programme and very sucessful and supported.

Now I am surprised at the viewing figures but have to accept them as fact.

Flamed Diving · 20-09-2009 8:00pm

CDfm wrote: »

RTE claims its the most watched religious programme and very sucessful and supported.

Now I am surprised at the viewing figures but have to accept them as fact.

Once again, missing the point entirely.

Coriolanus · 20-09-2009 8:01pm

The facts are that a proportion of monitored televisions equating to 300k+ nationally do not change channel in the interim between two prime time programs.

Anything beyond that, on either side of the arguement, is speculation.

Turtwig · 20-09-2009 8:02pm

Flamed Diving wrote: »

Once again, missing the point entirely.

What point, I didn't realise there was any?:p

Assumptions = Fact : Fact!:)

Get your facts right flamed.:p

CDfm · 20-09-2009 8:41pm

Flamed Diving wrote: »

Once again, missing the point entirely.

Nevore wrote: »

The facts are that a proportion of monitored televisions equating to 300k+ nationally do not change channel in the interim between two prime time programs.

Anything beyond that, on either side of the arguement, is speculation.

I dont know exactly what percentage of the population attend mass weekly but its in the region of 50%.

87% of the population describe themselves as Catholic in the Census

So I dont think you can be as dismissive of the audience the Angelus has.You are putting a spin on your interpretation.

Turtwig · 20-09-2009 8:43pm

CDfm wrote: »

I dont know exactly what percentage of the population attend mass weekly but its in the region of 50%.

87% of the population describe themselves as Catholic in the Census

So I dont think you can be as dismissive of the audience the Angelus has.You are putting a spin on your interpretation.

I'm described as 'Catholic' in the Census (because my parents fill it in:():P

Coriolanus · 20-09-2009 8:48pm

CDfm wrote: »

I dont know exactly what percentage of the population attend mass weekly but its in the region of 50%.

87% of the population describe themselves as Catholic in the Census

So I dont think you can be as dismissive of the audience the Angelus has.You are putting a spin on your interpretation.

I'm not making an interpretation? What I said is the facts of the matter. Any attempt to put a number on the actual viewers is just speculation, which is the point I'm trying to make. The only thing we know for certain is that x amount of monitored televisions are on during the Angelus. RTE then takes those numbers and extrapolates what it feels are accurate numbers of viewers for each program.

Dades · 20-09-2009 8:55pm

Those ratings are useless for a 'filler' minute. A program has to be on long enough for people to turn over, rather than sit it out waiting for the news, to be worth a damn.

Turtwig · 20-09-2009 9:01pm

Dades wrote: »

Those ratings are useless for a 'filler' minute. A program has to be on long enough for people to turn over, rather than sit it out waiting for the news, to be worth a damn.

Yep, and you can bet your arse that a survey of Catholics would show that the vast majority of them watch it every night, even though they probably do not.:)

Handsome_Pete · 20-09-2009 9:05pm

the sad thing is it's probably the best homegrown programme on rte. If it's a choice between watching the angelus or fair city, i know what i'd pick, at least it only lasts a minute

CDfm · 20-09-2009 9:07pm

Nevore wrote: »

I'm not making an interpretation? What I said is the facts of the matter. Any attempt to put a number on the actual viewers is just speculation, ..........RTE then takes those numbers and extrapolates what it feels are accurate numbers of viewers for each program.

When advertisers buy time on RTE for ad campaigns they monitor results so the samples get rigorously etc. I am not a fan of RTE but from what I know its figures are accurate. They are not "makey upey".

Turtwig · 20-09-2009 9:14pm

Handsome_Pete wrote: »

the sad thing is it's probably the best homegrown programme on rte. If it's a choice between watching the angelus or fair city, i know what i'd pick, at least it only lasts a minute

But it's the same thing each time....oh wait!

Turtwig · 20-09-2009 9:15pm

CDfm wrote: »

When advertisers buy time on RTE for ad campaigns they monitor results so the samples get rigorously etc. I am not a fan of RTE but from what I know its figures are accurate. They are not "makey upey".

Ever see any ads in between the angulus and news???
It's the news rating the advertisers would be looking at..

Coriolanus · 20-09-2009 9:15pm

That doesn't change the basic fact that Nielsen Media Research sample a meagre 1050 households for their viewing figures and that the figures are generated presuming a ridiculous direct ratio between those 1050 monitored televisions and the entire population of Ireland.

CDfm · 20-09-2009 9:43pm

Nevore wrote: »

That doesn't change the basic fact that Nielsen Media Research sample a meagre 1050 households for their viewing figures and that the figures are generated presuming a ridiculous direct ratio between those 1050 monitored televisions and the entire population of Ireland.

Its accurate enough for advertisers to predict a consumer response to an international standard.

Flamed Diving · 20-09-2009 10:02pm

CD, are you really so gullible to believe that someone, anyone, is rushing to their TV set at exactly 5.59 pm to switch on the Angelus? Are these people not merely switching on RTE1 to see the Six O'Clock News?

CDfm · 20-09-2009 10:19pm

Flamed Diving wrote: »

CD, are you really so gullible to believe that someone, anyone, is rushing to their TV set at exactly 5.59 pm to switch on the Angelus? Are these people not merely switching on RTE1 to see the Six O'Clock News?

I am not saying anything & I am surprised at the figures.

The difference is that I am prepared to accept the trend they indicate.

Flamed Diving · 20-09-2009 10:24pm

CDfm wrote: »

I am not saying anything & I am surprised at the figures.

The difference is that I am prepared to accept the trend they indicate.

An interesting detail revealed by Mr Childs is that the Angelus is “Ireland’s most watched religious programme, with an average of 318,000 viewers every day”.

From the RTE Website you have this:

The average programme audience for Prime Time since September has been approximately 450,000.

The Angelus has more support than I thought.

That Concern ad that runs just before every Six One news also has more "support" than I thought...

CDfm · 20-09-2009 10:30pm

Flamed Diving wrote: »

That Concern ad that runs just before every Six One news also has more "support" than I thought...

Could have a particular target market -donncha think.

Its likely to include the same 13% of the population that attend mass daily.

Flamed Diving · 20-09-2009 10:51pm

CDfm wrote: »

Could have a particular target market -donncha think.

Its likely to include the same 13% of the population that attend mass daily.

Erm, it's attempting to capture people who follow current affairs and would therefore be more likely to care about sick children in Darfur?

Sorry, CD. The high viewing figures of that time are the reason for the Angelus seemingly having a high audience. The News is the attraction, not the Angelus. Although I know somewhere in your head lies the notion that if the Angelus was pulled, Six One news would have to be cancelled, due to low viewing figures.

Turtwig · 20-09-2009 10:51pm

CDfm wrote: »

Could have a particular target market -donncha think.

Its likely to include the same 13% of the population that attend mass daily.

Antbert · 21-09-2009 1:33pm

Just thought I'd add, I put RTE 1 on around 6 and just turn the sound off for the Angelus. So I'm with everyone saying that that's completely inaccurate.

CDfm · 21-09-2009 1:48pm

Malty_T wrote: »

EXCLUSIVE PIC OF FLAMED DIVING IN PENSIVE MOOD DURING THE ANGELUS

CDfm · 21-09-2009 1:55pm

Antbert wrote: »

Just thought I'd add, I put RTE 1 on around 6 and just turn the sound off for the Angelus. So I'm with everyone saying that that's completely inaccurate.

I only really commented in answer to Galveseans post. I have no interest otherwise. I just thought it was a very fair question and looked it up and posted what I found.

komodosp · 21-09-2009 2:07pm

Who cares about the Angelus? It's only a minute long, it doesn't do any harm to any of us, and there's plenty of ****e on RTE... It might be annoying but there are plenty of ads which are far more annoying and nearly as long as the Angelus

The Prophet · 21-09-2009 2:41pm

komodosp wrote: »

Who cares about the Angelus? It's only a minute long, it doesn't do any harm to any of us, and there's plenty of ****e on RTE... It might be annoying but there are plenty of ads which are far more annoying and nearly as long as the Angelus

It's this kind of casual apathetic (not to mention point-missing) attitude to the so-called 'small' nods to religious privilege in this country that helps the continued coddling of religion as a larger whole.

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