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Transparent bias in IRC Lisbon guide

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    #152
    Captain Furball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Captain Furball


    The current EU Justice commissioner is a convicted criminal and the vice president of the Barosso commission.
    Is this true?


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    #153
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users Posts: 14,685 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    yes it is

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4032113.stm


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    #154
    Captain Furball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Captain Furball


    Jesus that's unreal.
    I suppose most people in power got there by doing something bad right?


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    #155
    meglome
    Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Captain Furball wrote: »
    Jesus that's unreal.
    I suppose most people in power got there by doing something bad right?

    You know that isn't true. List off all the people in the commission with a criminal record? If you're right there should be lots.

    And the guy in the link is the Commissioner for Transport and Tourism not justice. [Edit: Didn't cop initially that the linked article was from 2004]


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    #156
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users Posts: 14,685 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    he was moved to justice in 2008

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Barrot

    the whole controversy with his criminal record though has been settled since 2000 and it was a french national case, the EU parliament were made well aware of it.


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    #157
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    anyone hear the latest IRC commission adverts on radio. No one can tell me that adverts are not bias towards yes vote. They clearly phrase in such a way that if we vote no it will have a negative effect.
    Dont agree with commission putting out these bullet point statements. The devil is in the detail as they say.


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    #158
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    bayviewclose wrote: »
    anyone hear the latest IRC commission adverts on radio. No one can tell me that adverts are not bias towards yes vote. They clearly phrase in such a way that if we vote no it will have a negative effect.
    Dont agree with commission putting out these bullet point statements. The devil is in the detail as they say.

    ah ffs

    i heard one of them ads

    it said along the lines of "did you know there will be a president of commission, bleh bleh"


    now what did you hear thats a lie?


    oh wait i forgot its advantageous for the NO side to keep people in the dark about the "real" issues so they can continue spreading lies and throwing ****


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    #159
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    bayviewclose wrote: »
    anyone hear the latest IRC commission adverts on radio. No one can tell me that adverts are not bias towards yes vote. They clearly phrase in such a way that if we vote no it will have a negative effect.
    Dont agree with commission putting out these bullet point statements. The devil is in the detail as they say.

    If something is true, is one biased if one advocates it?

    Assuming they are actually doing that that is


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    #160
    papachango
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭papachango


    FUD? I will take it that you mean Factual. Undeniable. Decisive. as opposed to fear, uncertainty and doubt. This type of fud is the realm of the 'Yes' campaign in my experience(jobs, economy, recovery, isolation etc All unrelated in ANY way to the treaty, but FUD Pushed by FF, FG, Labour etc. And well you know it.
    My post about the commissioner is Factual. It is Undeniable. And I think it should be Decisive when people are making up their minds about the integrity of the people pushing Lisbon, the treaty itself and our own 'Leaders'! If this is FUD then guilty as charged! The facts surrounding the people pushing Lisbon may be uncomfortable for the Yes camp, but that is their problem.
    Factually,
    Papachango.


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    #161
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    papachango wrote: »
    FUD? I will take it that you mean Factual. Undeniable. Decisive. as opposed to fear, uncertainty and doubt. This type of fud is the realm of the 'Yes' campaign in my experience(jobs, economy, recovery, isolation etc All unrelated in ANY way to the treaty, but FUD Pushed by FF, FG, Labour etc. And well you know it.
    My post about the commissioner is Factual. It is Undeniable. And I think it should be Decisive when people are making up their minds about the integrity of the people pushing Lisbon, the treaty itself and our own 'Leaders'! If this is FUD then guilty as charged! The facts surrounding the people pushing Lisbon may be uncomfortable for the Yes camp, but that is their problem.
    Factually,
    Papachango.

    So I take it you support the part where countries can only propose Commissioners and cut out crap like this?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #162
    papachango
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭papachango


    I cannot remember saying that. Maybe it was the voice in your head? Yes, Yes, Yeeessssssss!!


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    #163
    papachango
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭papachango


    Or do you have trouble dealing with facts as well?


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    #164
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    It's a simple question.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #165
    thebman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    skelliser wrote: »
    btw,off topic but that dma site is very well designed

    Doesn't work in Opera browser, us Opera users aren't worth manipulating with suggestive imagery :(
    bayviewclose wrote: »
    anyone hear the latest IRC commission adverts on radio. No one can tell me that adverts are not bias towards yes vote. They clearly phrase in such a way that if we vote no it will have a negative effect.
    Dont agree with commission putting out these bullet point statements. The devil is in the detail as they say.

    Voting no is the negative though. Just saying thats all :o
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_(word)


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