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M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    M18 1.5kms form gort 10/08/15IMAG0630_zpsr59kktda.jpg22/11/16IMAG2031_zpsvxnhsguz.jpgas you can see these pics where taken 15 month's apart work is still very slow compared to the m17


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    medoc wrote: »
    Were there any design changes made to take into account the flooding?

    The motorway was raised in part's form kilternan to gort and extra drainage was put in place


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The last bridge on the m18 at gortroe 1.5kms south of rathmorrisy beams now in place 24/11/16IMAG2166_zps3b57o4ev.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭medoc


    m17 wrote: »
    The motorway was raised in part's form kilternan to gort and extra drainage was put in place


    Though it probably looked worse as they were at foundation levels rather than finished levels its good they raised the road in those locations. Lucky it happened so early in construction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 sosndt


    NDT


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The m17 at cloonkeen north 22/08/16IMAG2200_zpsplj996os.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭java


    m17 wrote: »
    Speculation on whether tuam bypass will open early as stand-alone

    Sorry to lighten the tone, but thought this might be some interest. Some sad news - the County Council exec mentioned here passed away suddenly during the week.

    http://connachttribune.ie/senior-county-council-official-passes-away-057/


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    paul2013 wrote: »
    Question for you all. The road to Clarinbridge will still be used after the M18 decides to be opened as can you imagine the carnage on Junction 19 on the M6 , It will be like going through Claregalway once again with serious delays. The only time I'll see a benefit to the M6 is when Galway city is bypassed!

    As for the Rathmorrissey Junction 18 on the M6/M18 and Junction 1 on the M17 do the expect traffic from Tuam to drive down Athenry to go to Galway and Gort traffic to drive to Athenry to go to Galway? Lets just say that traffic will not be doing this because that's why there is such a poor uptake of the Western Rail Corridor part 1 . This is coming from a person who used to live on the N18 outside Gort.
    They will do that, it'll be faster especially Tuam-Galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭godskitchen


    spacetweek wrote: »
    They will do that, it'll be faster especially Tuam-Galway.

    Even if it wasn't faster, for me personally, I would still take the motorway. Anything to avoid Tuam and Clairegalway.

    Even if there was no traffic on the current N17 and I had the road to myself, I would still take the motorway.

    I fully intend to never drive through any of the bypassed towns ever again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭WildWater


    serfboard wrote: »

    Minister (Shane Ross, God help us) won't want to keep opening bits of it.

    Maybe not but he may like to see his name on plaque before he is turfed out of office. Will he still be minister for transport in Feb 18? I wouldn't bet on it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Even if it wasn't faster, for me personally, I would still take the motorway. Anything to avoid Tuam and Clairegalway.

    Even if there was no traffic on the current N17 and I had the road to myself, I would still take the motorway.

    I fully intend to never drive through any of the bypassed towns ever again.
    That's all very well but when you come to the coolagh roundabout,you might think differently that's going to became the new claregalway


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Absolutely fantastic thread M17! Thanks for all your photos and contributions. I do a bit of flying and try to have a look at the road whenever I'm up. It's really being built at pace, even a break of a few weeks reveals big changes!


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,841 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    If the N17 is downgraded to 80km/h then I will be definitely using the motorway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    If the N17 is downgraded to 80km/h then I will be definitely using the motorway.

    The n17 will become the n83 when the m17 opens,so it will still be 100km/h


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The m17/m18 flyover 15/01/162016-11-27_11-44-27_zpsrydiontf.jpgThe m17/m18 flyover at rathmorissy 25/11/16IMAG2169_zpsmwjpe9bh.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭godskitchen


    m17 wrote: »
    That's all very well but when you come to the coolagh roundabout,you might think differently that's going to became the new claregalway

    Thankfully I dont often go to Galway. I will be heading down the M18 after the M17.

    I can see your point though, it will be a bottle neck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The m17 at ballybanagher corofin looking towards rathmorissy 27/11/16IMAG2089_zpshpmslryw.jpglooking towards tuamIMAG2093_zps86jzrgbh.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Rockprossing at Sheeaunpark 24/11/16IMAG2200_zpskfatvibr.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Annagh hill 27/02/152016-11-27_12-55-54_zpsygyl8r7y.jpg27/11/16IMAG2142_zpsg4r9zvlg.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The tuam bypass 27/11/16IMAG2200_zpsya1khnzq.jpgthe flyover at kilcloghansIMAG2201_zpsruaeb7dl.jpgpoles in placeIMAG2203_zpssx0nilvw.jpgballygaddy road flyoverIMAG2204_zpsgnol5fvy.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Those sections look like they could open by the Spring?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    road_high wrote: »
    Those sections look like they could open by the Spring?

    Since the whole scheme is being built under a legal contract,it seems unlikely as the contract would have to be amended,the bypass will be ready by easter 17,but will have to wait until the whole project is complete


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    m17 wrote: »
    Since the whole scheme is being built under a legal contract,it seems unlikely as the contract would have to be amended,the bypass will be ready by easter 17,but will have to wait until the whole project is complete

    All the other m-ways opened in sections and there wasn't a problem I don't think. I remember the M9 had one full section and part of another opened at the same time and both were under different contractors. So hopefully that won't be the case!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The m17 at cloonkeen north 28/02/15IMAG0200_zpshnm9yt3w.jpg28/11/16IMAG2194_zpsj5q2ez3g.jpg


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Perhaps Sean Canney may take credit for early opening of the Tuam BP seeing as his Western Rail Corridor plan is going rapidly down the toilet?

    Will surely happen anyway, they wouldn't be making such rapid progress on the Tuam BP unless they were going opening it early.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    road_high wrote: »
    All the other m-ways opened in sections and there wasn't a problem I don't think. I remember the M9 had one full section and part of another opened at the same time and both were under different contractors. So hopefully that won't be the case!

    Those motorways were built in sections and that's why the opened that way.
    The M9 was built under 5 different schemes over a number of years. The M17/18 is a single scheme.
    AFAIK the only scheme that had a partial opening was the M7 Limerick to Nenagh due to the subsidence issues at the Annaholty bog which delayed the full opening by a year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Those motorways were built in sections and that's why the opened that way.
    The M9 was built under 5 different schemes over a number of years. The M17/18 is a single scheme.
    AFAIK the only scheme that had a partial opening was the M7 Limerick to Nenagh due to the subsidence issues at the Annaholty bog which delayed the full opening by a year.

    Knocktopher to Waterford was built by Ascon/BAM, Carlow to Knocktopher was Roadbridge...part of the later opened (i.e KK to Waterford) all as one section in March 2010! (The part between Danefort-Knocktopher opened first and with the Ascon/BAM part).


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    road_high wrote: »
    Knocktopher to Waterford was built by Ascon/BAM, Carlow to Knocktopher was Roadbridge...part of the later opened (i.e KK to Waterford) all as one section in March 2010! (The part between Danefort-Knocktopher opened first and with the Ascon/BAM part).

    Fair enough. I think the issue here though is that its a PPP which no part of the M9 was. Direct Route will maintain the road for (I think) 30 years after opening so will want to open it all together.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Fair enough. I think the issue here though is that its a PPP which no part of the M9 was. Direct Route will maintain the road for (I think) 30 years after opening so will want to open it all together.
    you're not far off it's 25 years2016-11-28_03-58-39_zpszrogdcks.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    That looks like the maintenance time is from the road opening time. I thought other schemes had a cut off time for maintenance payments, and they payments started from road opening, so there's the incentive to open sooner.

    The present arrangement makes the Tuam bypass more of a negotiation, especially as the lads on the M18 will want a cut of any early payments...


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