M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

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from_atozinc wrote: »

First of all M17, thanks for all the posts.

Just curious really, were you actively involved and working on this project or are you just a normal joe soap like ourselves on the outside of things

I'm not involved with this project I'm just a fan that likes to keep you updated on progress

marno21

Sam Russell wrote: »

Heard the usual 'Traffic congestion - Claregaway' line again today on Morning Irealnd's AA Road watch slot, plus the Bothar Na dTreabh congestion.

Has nothing changed?

Clarinbridge is now traffic free.

The queue this morning on the N17 approaching Bothar na dTreabh was 3x the length of the queue at the Coolagh roundabout, in addition to there being slow traffic through Claregalway. I'm not sure why traffic is still so attracted to the old N17.

Bothar na dTreabh will remain a mess until the new Galway Ring Road is built

from_atozinc

m17 wrote: »

I'm not involved with this project I'm just a fan that likes to keep you updated on progress

I think you should have been involved.
You would have some passion if you were involved a lot more than some of the lads working on it - I would imagine ; )

BelfastVanMan

marno21 wrote: »

Sam Russell wrote: »

Heard the usual 'Traffic congestion - Claregaway' line again today on Morning Irealnd's AA Road watch slot, plus the Bothar Na dTreabh congestion.

Has nothing changed?

Clarinbridge is now traffic free.

The queue this morning on the N17 approaching Bothar na dTreabh was 3x the length of the queue at the Coolagh roundabout, in addition to there being slow traffic through Claregalway. I'm not sure why traffic is still so attracted to the old N17.

Bothar na dTreabh will remain a mess until the new Galway Ring Road is built

Shorter distance and familiarity, most likely.

kippy

Sam Russell wrote: »

Heard the usual 'Traffic congestion - Claregaway' line again today on Morning Irealnd's AA Road watch slot, plus the Bothar Na dTreabh congestion.

Has nothing changed?

Some change has happened, CG village is quieter off peak and weekends, Carnmore/oranmore road into CG is noticeably quiter at peak times. But the main N17 peak time traffic hasn't changed much as many people here predicted.

m17

The bat bridge 31/10/1606/10/17

oneofakind32

I'm not sure why traffic is still so attracted to the old N17.

Probably because google maps has yet to update and once it does it show people how much quicker the motorway is

m17

The m18 going over the Galway to dublin railway line 06/10/1506/10/17

simulacra75

Just did a run to the parents house in Sligo from Ennis. Left at 3.10pm and arrived at 5.10pm.

On the "old" road that would have been 2hrs 30mins, at a minimum, 2hrs 45mins + more likely.

paul2013

marno21 wrote: »

Clarinbridge is now traffic free.

The queue this morning on the N17 approaching Bothar na dTreabh was 3x the length of the queue at the Coolagh roundabout, in addition to there being slow traffic through Claregalway. I'm not sure why traffic is still so attracted to the old N17.

Bothar na dTreabh will remain a mess until the new Galway Ring Road is built

This is the reason the traffic is so addicted to the old N17

BelfastVanMan

paul2013 wrote: »

marno21 wrote: »

Clarinbridge is now traffic free.

The queue this morning on the N17 approaching Bothar na dTreabh was 3x the length of the queue at the Coolagh roundabout, in addition to there being slow traffic through Claregalway. I'm not sure why traffic is still so attracted to the old N17.

Bothar na dTreabh will remain a mess until the new Galway Ring Road is built

This is the reason the traffic is so addicted to the old N17

Pretty sure it's got more to do with shorter distances thsn a song....;-)

m17

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

Pretty sure it's got more to do with shorter distances thsn a song....;-)

The Kilmore roundabout to the gpo Galway m17/m6/n6 is 45.2kms,the Kilmore roundabout to the gpo Galway going the old n17 now n83 is 31kms

tombrown

I've been travelling from Clare to Donegal/Tyrone fairly regularly since about 1998. Back then you went through every town on the way, most of them with a right angle bend on the main rd in the middle of the town, causing tail backs. Since then I have seen :

- Claremorris/Knock bypass
- Sligo (sort of) "bypass"
- Donegal Town bypass
- Bundoran/Ballyshannon bypass
- Ennis-Gort Motorway
- Various road improvements (e.g. just north of Tuam; Milltown-Balindine)
- Others I have probably forgotten

This M18/M17 is just about the final piece of the jigsaw, removing the last remaining potential bottlenecks at Clarinbridge, Oranmore, Claregalway & Tuam though I still find the N17 from Tubbercurry to Collooney a bit tedious , and Sligo could really do with a proper bypass, not one that goes by the edge of town with traffic lights every 200 yards

Any other improvements in the planning on these roads?

Sometime next summer I want to drive the "old road" all the way as much as possible, for a laugh. I can work out many bits of it, but if anyone has information on whether it is even possible to get on the old N17 just north of Tuam, I think that is the bit I am missing

marno21

tombrown wrote: »

I've been travelling from Clare to Donegal/Tyrone fairly regularly since about 1998. Back then you went through every town on the way, most of them with a right angle bend on the main rd in the middle of the town, causing tail backs. Since then I have seen :

- Claremorris/Knock bypass
- Sligo (sort of) "bypass"
- Donegal Town bypass
- Bundoran/Ballyshannon bypass
- Ennis-Gort Motorway
- Various road improvements (e.g. just north of Tuam; Milltown-Balindine)
- Others I have probably forgotten

This M18/M17 is just about the final piece of the jigsaw, removing the last remaining potential bottlenecks at Clarinbridge, Oranmore, Claregalway & Tuam though I still find the N17 from Tubbercurry to Collooney a bit tedious , and Sligo could really do with a proper bypass, not one that goes by the edge of town with traffic lights every 200 yards

Any other improvements in the planning on these roads?

Sometime next summer I want to drive the "old road" all the way as much as possible, for a laugh. I can work out many bits of it, but if anyone has information on whether it is even possible to get on the old N17 just north of Tuam, I think that is the bit I am missing

The next improvements are the N17 Tobercurry-Collooney and the N15 Ballybofey/Stranorlar bypass (not sure if you are going this far north).

Neither of these will start construction in the next 5 years.

tombrown

marno21 wrote: »

The next improvements are the N17 Tobercurry-Collooney and the N15 Ballybofey/Stranorlar bypass (not sure if you are going this far north).

Neither of these will start construction in the next 5 years.

Thanks - these days mostly head out to Dungloe, so turn just before Ballybofey (cut the corner) but sometimes head to Strabane, so the bypass will help there

Roadfan

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

You've good taste in music, fella...bit of Tori Amos there! ;-)

Are you related to the Belfast Van the Man?. Bright side of the road playing on the car stereo or for some hope it's Right side if the road. Anyway one last gripe even if not specific to Gort Tuam. Lane discipline leaves a lot to be desired in thus country. Indicators seen as an optional extra. Some drivers would be dangerous in charge of a supermarket trolley.

Anyway thanks again all for comments and updates especially M17 .

Roll on Cork Limerick

☺☺☺

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The m18 at coldwood 12/03/16The m18 at coldwood 07/10/17

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Rathmorrisy 01/09/17rathmorrisy facts five flyovers,roundabout ciculatory carriageway 970 metres,there are 12 slip roads totaling 9kms,it took 23 months from start to finish ,cost 35 million

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The m17 at sheeaunpark 18/10/1607/10/17

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M18 junction 16 gort 24/12/1408/10/17

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THE M17 AT CARTHYMORE 16/04/1608/10/17

paul2013

m17 wrote: »

Rathmorrisy 01/09/17rathmorrisy facts five flyovers,roundabout ciculatory carriageway 970 metres,there are 12 slip roads totaling 9kms,it took 23 months from start to finish ,cost 35 million

Is this where the missing 9km are on the M18? with the marker post stopped at 9.5? Interested to know....

m17

paul2013 wrote: »

Is this where the missing 9km are on the M18? with the marker post stopped at 9.5? Interested to know....

The old n18 goes form claregalway to rossbrein which is 100kms,the new m18/n18 goes from rathmorrisy to rossbrein that is 91.5kms that's the reason is short by 9.5kms

JCX BXC

m17 wrote: »

The old n18 goes form claregalway to rossbrein which is 100kms,the new m18/n18 goes from rathmorrisy to rossbrein that is 91.5kms that's the reason is short by 9.5kms

Why didn't they adjust the numbers?

marno21

JCX BXC wrote: »

Why didn't they adjust the numbers?

Because replacing 65km worth of signs was more expensive than erecting 27km of wrong ones.

The signs are only symbolic indicators of where you are on the motorway and aren't for use for distance measuring purposes.

JCX BXC

If they're not correct, what's the point in having them then?

marno21

JCX BXC wrote: »

If they're not correct, what's the point in having them then?

These signs aren't for measuring distance, they are arbitrary numbers used for location in the event of an emergency or for administrative use by motorway services. The sign says "M18 S 9.5", not "M18 S 9.5km". There is nothing wrong or incorrect about them.

If TII went and replaced all the incorrect signs you'd have people moaning about how much money was wasted on the replacement signs to no real advantage.

L1011

JCX BXC wrote: »

If they're not correct, what's the point in having them then?

They are chainage indicators for locational purposes; not distance indicators - they are correct.

roadmaster

marno21 wrote: »

These signs aren't for measuring distance, they are arbitrary numbers used for location in the event of an emergency or for administrative use by motorway services. The sign says "M18 S 9.5", not "M18 S 9.5km". There is nothing wrong or incorrect about them.

If TII went and replaced all the incorrect signs you'd have people moaning about how much money was wasted on the replacement signs to no real advantage.

It might not be a bad idea to replace a lot of signs as some are very bad I often wonder did the some one do a Homer Simpson and think a Kilometre is just a European mile!

m17

M18 at caranavoodavn 22/11/1608/10/17