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Live Webcast Lisbon Debate on now!

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  • 07-09-2009 6:46pm
    #1
    Euro_Kraut
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    Sorry, if this has already been posted but this is news to me.

    Right now http://www.rte.ie/live/ is hosting a retuers.com debate from the Shelboure Hotel. Its features Mary Lou McDonald, Dick Roche, David Begg and Nigel Farage (UKIP).

    Just starting now. Should be interesting.


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    #2
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Oh christ... Dick Roche...


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    #3
    PopeBuckfastXVI
    Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Farage gone straight for immigration.

    Follows it up with Turkey.

    Shocked that he avoids what Lisbon actually does...


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    #4
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    No more referendums ever. Check :rolleyes:


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    #5
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Boom... sucker punches with the Article 48 'Big Lie'...


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    #6
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Nigel Farage is concerned I'm being 'bullied' into voting again.

    I'm ok thanks Nige...


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    #7
    Dinner
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    Farage spouting on about the usual ****e about the Dutch and French being ignored and the Irish being bullied.

    He really doesn't care about any sort of facts.


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    #8
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    So doesn't actually mention anything in Lisbon.

    And he's on the 'no' side!? :eek:


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    #9
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    Oh christ... Dick Roche...

    Not terrible so far, mind he hasn't had to talk to other people yet. :pac:


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    #10
    Dinner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭Dinner


    Good aul Mary Lou planting the seeds of doubt "but the decision could be overturned"...


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    #11
    BlitzKrieg
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    and the mistake is no one shoots down mary lou's *the gaurantee's are worthless* argument, that will pay dividends for her argument for days to come.


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    #12
    AuRevoir
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    Fair play to Nigel Farage for pointing out Dick Roche's false prophecies on immigration regarding Nice.


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    flamez911
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    Why the hell is Nigel Farage being invited to debate Lisbon in Ireland- if he had his way he wouldn't be allowed in our country without a visa because the EU would be dissolved.


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    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    AuRevoir wrote: »
    Fair play to Nigel Farage for pointing out Dick Roche's false prophesies on immigration regarding Nice.

    Yes I always love to see people dragging irrelevancies into a debate. I'm sure you're delighted he didn't even mention a single article or aspect of the Lisbon treaty also...


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    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Here we go:

    Mary Lou dragging 'the banks' into it...


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    AuRevoir
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    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    Yes I always love to see people dragging irrelevancies into a debate. I'm sure you're delighted he didn't even mention a single article or aspect of the Lisbon treaty also...

    I'm sure the point Farage was making was that Roche was utterly wrong on Nice and he's more than likley utterly wrong on Lisbon too.


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    Dinner
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    AuRevoir wrote: »
    I'm sure the point Farage was making was that Roche was utterly wrong on Nice and he's more than likley utterly wrong on Lisbon too.

    Farage also made the point that 84% of German laws come from the EU. Another lie from Nige. So it's more than likely he's utterly wrong on Lisbon too.


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    #18
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    AuRevoir wrote: »
    I'm sure the point Farage was making was that Roche was utterly wrong on Nice and he's more than likley utterly wrong on Lisbon too.

    I'm sure that's the inference he was trying to draw, and I'm sure there are fools who will follow it...

    Other people just refer to it as an ad hominem fallacy and deal with the subject at hand...


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    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    AuRevoir wrote: »
    I'm sure the point Farage was making was that Roche was utterly wrong on Nice and he's more than likley utterly wrong on Lisbon too.

    Not nearly as wrong as Mary Lou and the rest of her ilk.

    undermine our sovereignty
    bring us closer into a European Army and NATO and
    relegate us to the second division of a two-tier European Union.

    Check out all this BS
    http://www.sinnfein.org/releases/01/nicemanifesto.html


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    #20
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Farage again attacks the Euro... nothing to do with Lisbon...

    You're not in blighty anymore Nige, get with the programme...


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    #21
    Euro_Kraut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    So the UKIP believes Ireland should leave the Euro.


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    #22
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Mary Lou: Membership of EU irrelevant to FDI.

    Thank christ she'll never be in charge of a ministerial portfolio...


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    #23
    Euro_Kraut
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    Bridgit Laffen lays into UKIP!!! Go on girl!


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    #24
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    Bridgit Laffen lays into UKIP!!! Go on girl!

    Ouch for unite too. British region :p


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    Dinner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭Dinner


    Farage's response to Laffen was to attack her character. Well done.


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    #26
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Farange discharges shotgun into foot.


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    #27
    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    Yep, if you can't play the ball you can always hack at the man...


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    #28
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    FT asking question? :D


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    #29
    Euro_Kraut
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    Dinner wrote: »
    Farage's response to Laffen was to attack her character. Well done.

    She is well known in Ireland. No need to explain who she was.


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    #30
    PopeBuckfastXVI
    Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Mary Lou doesn't care what the treaty does, just what it says...

    genius...


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    #31
    Euro_Kraut
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    marco_polo wrote: »
    Ouch for unite too. British region :p

    I guess this is what she was on about: http://www.unitetheunion.com/regions.aspx


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