What Happens When......

Gadgetman496

Due to the legally binding ruling by the courts, Microsoft will be shipping Windows 7 to Europe without Internet Explorer.

My question is,

How will users connect to the Internet in order to download a Browser of their choice?


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Tea_Bag

should come with a browser choice upon installation, but it can be done (with difficulty) through cmd i believe.

mark renton

Tea_Bag wrote: »

should come with a browser choice upon installation, but it can be done (with difficulty) through cmd i believe.

now this i would love to see - anyone got steps?

Tea_Bag

with a quick www.google.ie search i found

http://www.platte.com/support/DOSInstructions.html

Gadgetman496

Tea_Bag wrote: »

with a quick www.google.ie search i found

http://www.platte.com/support/DOSInstructions.html

What's the username & password Teabag

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cpu-dude

gadgetman496 wrote: »

Due to the legally binding ruling by the courts, Microsoft will be shipping Windows 7 to Europe without Internet Explorer.

My question is,

How will users connect to the Internet in order to download a Browser of their choice?


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I'm guessing and hoping something like this will show up:



And remember, just because Internet Explorer isn't there, doesn't mean you can't get online. It's just a browser.

Tea_Bag

gadgetman496 wrote: »

What's the username & password Teabag

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im guessing its your username and pass for your profile, but cant be sure, not having tried cmd ftp myself. i also have no intention of trying, because it sounds tedious and difficult.


i think microsoft arent obliged to care, and nothing legally has to be supplied by them bar the OS. ill use a usb key if its a major problem.

yoyo

It will come shipped with internet explorer, however upon first launch you have the option to install another browser from a list displayed, and also fully disabling internet explorer

Nick

Gadgetman496

yoyo wrote: »

It will come shipped with internet explorer, however upon first launch you have the option to install another browser from a list displayed, and also fully disabling internet explorer

Nick

I doubt that very much yoyo

"Likely being mindful of the ever-watchful eye of the European Union, Microsoft's announced its Euro version of Windows 7, affectionately and officially dubbed Windows 7 E, will not come packaged with Internet Explorer, or any other browser for that matter. Of course that's not the whole story, as OEMs will be provided free copies of IE8 to bundle themselves alongside / instead of other browser options, and consumers can pick up their own copies via CD, FTP, or retail channels. This is undoubtedly in response to the antitrust cases the EU keeps throwing Microsoft's way, and while we wouldn't be surprised to see it end up on almost every European computer sold, we do wonder if this will at all speed up IE's already rapidly diminishing share in the war of web browsers."

Courtesy: engadget


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Tea_Bag

they're losing their share in the market (which is already overestimated because IE ships with windows as standard, making it almost impossible to monitor how much its used) because IE is absolute shuite.



however, i dont think the EU had a good enough reason to sue MS. of course they support their own brand?? who doesnt??

yoyo

gadgetman496 wrote: »

I doubt that very much yoyo

"Likely being mindful of the ever-watchful eye of the European Union, Microsoft's announced its Euro version of Windows 7, affectionately and officially dubbed Windows 7 E, will not come packaged with Internet Explorer, or any other browser for that matter. Of course that's not the whole story, as OEMs will be provided free copies of IE8 to bundle themselves alongside / instead of other browser options, and consumers can pick up their own copies via CD, FTP, or retail channels. This is undoubtedly in response to the antitrust cases the EU keeps throwing Microsoft's way, and while we wouldn't be surprised to see it end up on almost every European computer sold, we do wonder if this will at all speed up IE's already rapidly diminishing share in the war of web browsers."

Courtesy: engadget


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(1) Microsoft will make available a mechanism in Windows Client PC Operating Systems within the European Economic Area (EEA) that enables OEMs and end users to turn Internet Explorer off and on. If Internet Explorer is turned off, what the user considers as the web browser Internet Explorer, namely its browser frame window and menus (user interface), will not be accessible and will not otherwise launch programmatically.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/eu-msft/docs/07-24-09Commitment.doc

Windows 7 will come with internet explorer, it has to have a functioning browser so it can download the latest versions of alternative browsers, that quote is from microsofts plans, microsoft will also roll out a update for xp & vista, which will offer the same option of turning IE off

Nick

Antar Bolaeisk

apt-get

Seriously though while not a problem anymore considering the new decision it is possible to download firefox using only the command prompt.

Kinetic^

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

apt-get

If only!

Even if you don't use it as your main browser it's always handy to have it installed as not all webpages work on the other browsers.

Overheal

well im not disagreeing with that but it also inflates their market share to something it might not be. while 100% of windows users have IE, some (if not many) use 3rd party browsers 98% of the time. When Firefox has 1/3 of the market (which its getting set to do) its working against itself, because those users running firefox have had to run IE at some point. I wouldnt be surprised if FF's real share was closer to half.

Rebel021

No need to run IE if you have the ie tab installed with firefox.
I only use IE for banking as for some reason ie is the only browser which open24 allows???

bman

Overheal wrote: »

well im not disagreeing with that but it also inflates their market share to something it might not be. while 100% of windows users have IE, some (if not many) use 3rd party browsers 98% of the time. When Firefox has 1/3 of the market (which its getting set to do) its working against itself, because those users running firefox have had to run IE at some point. I wouldnt be surprised if FF's real share was closer to half.

This suggests FF has a higher share than IE. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Although it is a programmers site so the statistics might not be representative of the overall public.

Overheal

bman wrote: »

This suggests FF has a higher share than IE. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Although it is a programmers site so the statistics might not be representative of the overall public.

they may be pulling that from actual web hits, whereas microsoft and mozilla were counting overall downloads of the software, etc.