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Next Generation Access - BIAS

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  • 13-09-2009 3:14am
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    Tom Young
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    Rumour has it, IBEC are to generate a report or study by a consultancy company which is supposed to 'show the way' or 'be the solution' to Ireland's Next Generation Access - NGA, problems.

    The report, which has been seen and is heavily biased and not considering anything other than the monopoly view, is due to be 'sold' to industry at the IBEC Telecom and Internet Federation - TIF, conference on Monday the 21st of September.

    Tom


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    Orion
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    Has been seen by who? Got any references?


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    Sponge Bob
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    This is Tommy McCabe looking for his €5bn again I bet , remember the last scamarama

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054890525


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    Tom Young
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    Macros42 wrote: »
    Has been seen by who? Got any references?

    I've not seen it myself, but I hear it's an Analysys Mason report. More or less drawn up by eircom.


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    Tom Young
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    Macros42 wrote: »
    Has been seen by who? Got any references?
    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    This is Tommy McCabe looking for his €5bn again I bet , remember the last scamarama

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054890525

    Yep - Similar effort, so I'm told. My sources say he's going to have an out and out revolt on his hands if it's pitched the way it is drafted at the moment (as mentioned, I've not seen it). Word on street is that Shane Ross and some other journo's are already being briefed by the very people who will end-up paying for it and who are most annoyed by its current state.

    Don't know whether IOFFL are active at the moment, but this is one thing I think they should be clear on.

    Duopoly deals won't work here, a dictated solution will be bound to fail and the main thing consumers and industry need is engagement not some form of 'gang-planking' and showboating in relation to the issue.

    Tom


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    Sponge Bob
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    PM me a copy/summary in confidence , even an executive summary would do . I get a whiff of Tommy proposing everyone else does forbearance on an eircom VDSL/NGN/Metro Ethernet class of rollout :(

    Let me guess, it is the 'Danon plan' from late 2006 to supply VDSL in the 5 big cities ( again) but that eircom should earn an economic rate of return involving no wholesale version nor a finding of SMP for a period. UPC are presently about to launch 120mbits which makes this Danon plan kinda urgent .


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    bk
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Let me guess, it is the 'Danon plan' from late 2006 to supply VDSL in the 5 big cities ( again) but that eircom should earn an economic rate of return involving no wholesale version nor a finding of SMP for a period. UPC are presently about to launch 120mbits which makes this Danon plan kinda urgent .

    The question is, will it just be VDSL2 jammed into the existing exchanges, allowing Eircom to claim "up to" 100mb/s, while the reality, most people even in the urban areas will end up getting less then 20mb/s or will it be a real FTTC network plus VDSL2?

    And even if it is the latter, Comreg still shouldn't give an inch on wholesale or SMP. I mean what is Eircom going to do if they don't agree? No matter what Comreg decides to do Eircom have to rollout VDSL2+, if they don't Eircom are dead anyway.

    Eircom are losing land lines at an increasingly alarming rate, they are already under massive pressure from 3G and UPC and everyone knows UPC isn't far off launching their 120mb/s (and perhaps more importantly cheap 25mb/s) products. Eircom have no choice but to roll out their NGN, they are just trying to frighten Comreg into giving them some nice bonus incentives to do what they are going to do anyway.


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