Everything HPAT and medicine for 2010 (R1 points post #1247)

Piste

Where does everyone here want to do medicine, out of interest?

Trinity because it's the easiest for me to get to and there's no premed. Then either RCSI or UCD.

cweeva

Trinity for me aswell, then either UCD or NUIG:)

theowen

Piste wrote: »

Where does everyone here want to do medicine, out of interest?

Galway, I want need to get out of Dublin

whadabouchasir

Anne-Marie!! wrote: »

Premed in Galway is the best fun ever! Only 5 weeks in and everyone is great friends, and its a nice laid back year before the hard work starts

I think we've had a class party every week so far.

Sallywest

Hey,
I've always wanted to do something medical and am now between dietetics and medicine. I think the only thing thats putting me off medicine is that its so daunting! Im not asking for anyone to suggest what I do but well, help!

IHeartChemistry

Piste wrote: »

Where does everyone here want to do medicine, out of interest?

UCC or NUIG I think living in Dublin would just annoy me...and it's cheaper for the parents, and I live only max 2 hours from Cork and Galway

mohas004

HQvhs wrote: »

Don't worry about the hpat. Don't even think of it until the day. Focus on LC points, at this stage they're the only thing you can possibly affect. And trust me, they are still the deciding factor in getting in. Easier said than done I suppose. Though I got in this year and focused on points. The only prep for hpat was to sit down with the practice book a few weeks beforehand. Other than that I set the hpat to one side until that Saturday.

Hi,

just wondered, what practice book did you use?

thanks..

NightOwl91

hey guys
Im probably goin off topic here but i only found out about the 480+ points and HPAT test last month last yr, i decided to NOT do chemistry and now im screwed as ive always liked the idea of medicine but decided id never get 580pts etc... finding this out about the HPAT put me on the war path with my deputy head lol ..i was advised not to take chamistry so late in the LC course. Ok fair enough. I have decided to do my first choice General Nursing but just wondering, if i got a 2:1 in it, could i do medicine despite not havin done chemistry???

pfannkuchen

I did the UKCAT and got 640 with absolutely zero preparation so was fairly happy... I have been reading the New Media Medicine forum though and have seen people with scores well over 750 so I'm not feeling so good anymore! Have applied anyway and would be more than happy to go to the UK, if I get an offer I'm thinking RCSI for here though

I've been told that the UKCAT is much more difficult than the HPAT, but I won't believe it until I see it for myself :P Planning on doing A LOT more prep for this one!

clartharlear

NightOwl91 wrote: »

hey guys
Im probably goin off topic here but i only found out about the 480+ points and HPAT test last month last yr, i decided to NOT do chemistry and now im screwed as ive always liked the idea of medicine but decided id never get 580pts etc... finding this out about the HPAT put me on the war path with my deputy head lol ..i was advised not to take chamistry so late in the LC course. Ok fair enough. I have decided to do my first choice General Nursing but just wondering, if i got a 2:1 in it, could i do medicine despite not havin done chemistry???

480 is just the baseline. I'd say there were very few if any who got in last year with less than 550 points. Step off the war path!:)
Graduate entry routes are at least as competitive as LC entry routes. Have a look at the new health sciences education forum way over under the Science section.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1274

NightOwl91

NightOwl91 wrote: »

hey guys
Im probably goin off topic here but i only found out about the 480+ points and HPAT test last month last yr, i decided to NOT do chemistry and now im screwed as ive always liked the idea of medicine but decided id never get 580pts etc... finding this out about the HPAT put me on the war path with my deputy head lol ..i was advised not to take chamistry so late in the LC course. Ok fair enough. I have decided to do my first choice General Nursing but just wondering, if i got a 2:1 in it, could i do medicine despite not havin done chemistry???

You don't have to have Chemistry if you have 2 sciences. Do you have 2 sciences?

mohas004

okey..soo when are poeple going to register for the HPAT?

Fishy1

Just to let you know that HPAT registration is now open. You must have your CAO number to register.
Good luck everyone

mohas004

Is the UMAT and the HPAT exactly the same tests (Content and form), except one is for Australia and one for IRELAND??

clartharlear

Yes. Umat/oz is the original. The Australian Council of Educational Research (ACER) was hired to do the hpat on the basis of the umat.

mohas004

Okey! thanks.. anyone know when Addmission Tickets for the HPAT is sent to us... I dont live in Ireland..so need to make travel arrangements beforehand.. I guess the location is on that ticket...

blackbetty69

has anyone signed up yet? wonder will there be more or less doing it this year than last year?!

mohas004

blackbetty69 wrote: »

has anyone signed up yet? wonder will there be more or less doing it this year than last year?!

No... I guess not...many believe that HPAT is now an obstruction rather than an easier way to get in... really annoying

Duffman'05

Piste wrote: »

Where does everyone here want to do medicine, out of interest?

Anywhere that I can get in to!:eek:

I'd kill to go to Trinity but the points aren't realistic. Next would be UCD, then NUIG, UCC and finally RCSI

theowen

Duffman'05 wrote: »

Anywhere that I can get in to!:eek:

I'd kill to go to Trinity but the points aren't realistic. Next would be UCD, then NUIG, UCC and finally RCSI

Why was I thinking Maynooth did medicine

stainluss

I see that the average points for medicine is now ~720, and the max. HPAT score is 300, is it possible for someone to get into medicine in Trinity for les than 500?:eek::eek:

I know it is unlikely they would get the full 300 and get in for like 428, but if the got 2-something in the HPAT they could get in for less than 500?(i.e. 480??):pac:

That would be niiice:)

mohas004

Please need advice...

I am really confused... is RCSI a good or a bad medical school?? I´ve heard so many split views..:(

HQvhs

mohas004 wrote: »

Please need advice...

I am really confused... is RCSI a good or a bad medical school?? I´ve heard so many split views..:(

I'm in RCSI, it was my first choice on the CAO. I cannot fault it in the slightest. It's extremely well organised and well run. The lecturers are fantastic, especially when you hit the anatomy room! One disadvantage is that as there are only 3 undergraduate courses - Medicine, Pharmacy and Physio - it's extremely focused on health sciences which doesn't allow you the same opportunity to get away from medicine for a while!
It may be small but there's a great social life because most students live on campus, and you meet great people from all over the world.
I don't have first hand experience of the other med schools so I can't really comment on them, but from open days and speaking to students at the different colleges I thought RCSI was most clued in to actually training doctors. However, as with everything, it's different strokes for different folks!

clartharlear

stainluss wrote: »

I see that the average points for medicine is now ~720, and the max. HPAT score is 300, is it possible for someone to get into medicine in Trinity for les than 500?:eek::eek:

I know it is unlikely they would get the full 300 and get in for like 428, but if the got 2-something in the HPAT they could get in for less than 500?(i.e. 480??):pac:

That would be niiice:)

The 98th percentile was 198/300 last year, i.e the top 2% of LC students. It would be weird if a person of the top 2% HPAT can't make the top 10% of points.

IHeartChemistry

mohas004 wrote: »

Okey! thanks.. anyone know when Addmission Tickets for the HPAT is sent to us... I dont live in Ireland..so need to make travel arrangements beforehand.. I guess the location is on that ticket...

2 weeks before the HPAT, but wherever you booked your test centre just book flights to...if you registered on time then you should get your place, but even if you dont get your chosen test centre then its not that hard to get to the rest of the country by train or bus...:D

mohas004

IHeartChemistry wrote: »

2 weeks before the HPAT, but wherever you booked your test centre just book flights to...if you registered on time then you should get your place, but even if you dont get your chosen test centre then its not that hard to get to the rest of the country by train or bus...:D

Okey.. thanks:)

bythewoods

stainluss wrote: »

I see that the average points for medicine is now ~720, and the max. HPAT score is 300, is it possible for someone to get into medicine in Trinity for les than 500?:eek::eek:

I know it is unlikely they would get the full 300 and get in for like 428, but if the got 2-something in the HPAT they could get in for less than 500?(i.e. 480??):pac:

That would be niiice:)

The lowest points anyone used to get into Medicine (in Galway) this year was 520 AFAIK.

The HPAT counts for about a third of the points, which is a big weighting.
If your HPAT goes well enough you'll have no bother getting in if you hit the mid 500s.
I got into Trinity on the 84th HPAT percentile and 575 points (565 originally, I went up on rechecks) but there's a good few people (Mainly guys i must say) who are down around the 540-550 mark in my class, LC points-wise.

OxfordComma

stainluss wrote: »

I see that the average points for medicine is now ~720, and the max. HPAT score is 300, is it possible for someone to get into medicine in Trinity for les than 500?:eek::eek:

I know it is unlikely they would get the full 300 and get in for like 428, but if the got 2-something in the HPAT they could get in for less than 500?(i.e. 480??):pac:

That would be niiice:)

It's theoretically possible to get in to Med with less than 500 points, but in practice, it's almost impossible to do so. The HPAT is marked out of 300, but this year (and presumably it'll be the same in 2010 - aren't the scores adjusted to be roughly the same every year?) very very few people got over 200 (and those who did were obviously extremely talented people when it comes to logical reasoning etc). If you want a realistic chance of securing a place next August, you should really be aiming for at least the mid-500s in the LC. No one can really predict how they're going to do in the HPAT - you're not really going to have any idea how well you've done in the exam, and hoping you'll scrape by with 500 points or less is a very dangerous mistake to make.

briankirby

HQvhs wrote: »

Don't worry about the hpat. Don't even think of it until the day. Focus on LC points, at this stage they're the only thing you can possibly affect. And trust me, they are still the deciding factor in getting in. Easier said than done I suppose. Though I got in this year and focused on points. The only prep for hpat was to sit down with the practice book a few weeks beforehand. Other than that I set the hpat to one side until that Saturday.

Id say this is true.Leaving cert and 550= points are the main thing,so LC is still very important