Could Lisbon turn Ireland into a European police state for bikers ?

Run_to_da_hills

Was at the Banner Rally in Ennis over the weekend and was very surprised at the number of bikers that don't want the treaty passed. Most were afraid that we could be sucked into a Euro police state. We already know about noise restrictions, attempts to force us to wear certain clothing, and also the way bikers have been treated in the UK which is almost a police state in itself.

One guy mentioned that Europe could copy the UK's approach of restricting rallies to booking in advance as it has been in the UK for many years, anyone who has traveled to the Shetlands or Dragon would understand.

MC Members can be refused entry into the US if it is found out that they are a part of one of these clubs. Europe could also take on the same tough approach and try to clamp down on them from traveling and holding events.

This year the UK authorities tried to unsuccessfully ban the Bulldog bash. I fear that the EU Parliament of white collar pen pushers could also could take a hard line approach towards bikers and clubs from holding events.

EvilMonkey

No
Were likely to follow the UK anyway with or without Lisbon. :mad:

Idleater

WTF??? Take this to the politics forum please.

People, please educate yourselves about Lisbon, and make a learned decision for yourselves, rather than listening to rhetoric from (both) vested interest camps.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

and also the way bikers have been treated in the UK which is almost a police state in itself.

Which has what to do with Lisbon exactly?

Euro_Kraut

Is there are reference to motorbikes in the Lisbon treaty? Would be interesting to read that.

Its also interesting that you say the UK has the most restictive laws in this area. They are the most eurospectic country within the EU. If Ireland was to move away from the EU we would probably start to move closer to the UK in areas like this.

Cuddlesworth

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Was at the Banner Rally in Ennis over the weekend and was very surprised at the number of bikers that don't want the treaty passed. Most were afraid that we could be sucked into a Euro police state. We already know about noise restrictions, attempts to force us to wear certain clothing, and also the way bikers have been treated in the UK which is almost a police state in itself.

One guy mentioned that Europe could copy the UK's approach of restricting rallies to booking in advance as it has been in the UK for many years, anyone who has traveled to the Shetlands or Dragon would understand.

MC Members can be refused entry into the US if it is found out that they are a part of one of these clubs. Europe could also take on the same tough approach and try to clamp down on them from traveling and holding events.

This year the UK authorities tried to unsuccessfully ban the Bulldog bash. I fear that the EU Parliament of white collar pen pushers could also could take a hard line approach towards bikers and clubs from holding events.

I'm sorry but WTF does any of the above have to do with the Lisbon treaty? This is some far fetched paranoia even for you.

faceman

Christ dude, can we not have just 1 forum polictics free?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Was at the Banner Rally in Ennis over the weekend and was very surprised at the number of bikers that don't want the treaty passed.

Most were afraid that we could be sucked into a Euro police state. We already know about noise restrictions, attempts to force us to wear certain clothing, and also the way bikers have been treated in the UK which is almost a police state in itself.

As someone who has been in 2 motorcycle accidents, I fail to see why noise restrictions and compulsory safety gear is an issue. I also fail to see why that would prompt an educated person to vote in the Lisbon treaty. As for the UK being a police state for bikers - are you having a laugh?

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One guy mentioned that Europe could copy the UK's approach of restricting rallies to booking in advance as it has been in the UK for many years, anyone who has traveled to the Shetlands or Dragon would understand.

And without Lisbon, member states cant introduce laws similar to the UK?

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This year the UK authorities tried to unsuccessfully ban the Bulldog bash. I fear that the EU Parliament of white collar pen pushers could also could take a hard line approach towards bikers and clubs from holding events.

Why? Why is there an issue? This is absolute nonsense Run_to_da_hills. There are large amount of biking groups around europe. Its very a popular hobby and an even popular form of transport. Explain to everyone, in simple Engligh, why there is an issue for the EU? Why do the EU have an issue with bikers?

KamiKazi

lol

Popeleo

Do our government really need European help? Our policymakers have been quite adept on their own at discouraging biking in this country.

And until you can prove to us that the Lisbon Treaty will make automatic gearboxes compulsory, I suggest you keep politics off this forum.

Cuddlesworth

faceman wrote: »

Why? Why is there an issue? This is absolute nonsense Run_to_da_hills. There are large amount of biking groups around europe. Its very a popular hobby and an even popular form of transport. Explain to everyone, in simple Engligh, why there is an issue for the EU? Why do the EU have an issue with bikers?

The issue is clearly with Run_to_the_hills and the EU. Look over his post history for a laugh. Maybe the EU touched his special place, who knows?

Hurricane-Dean

Tis xios, on friends a/c, too lazy to log out and re-log in.
Ignore this chaps rambling no vote campaigning. I really hate people spreading propoganda, especially from the no vote side, it's ridiculous. Rant over. Admins, Lock this thread plz.

Xios

Yeah, i am that lazy

Tigger

@ faceman noise restrictions don't help saftey loud bikes draw attention to themselves and are inherantly safer


saftey gear is a matter of choice but education on the merits on back protectors boots and armour should be included in the test preperation

KamiKazi

Tigger wrote: »

@ faceman noise restrictions don't help saftey loud bikes draw attention to themselves and are inherantly safer


saftey gear is a matter of choice but education on the merits on back protectors boots and armour should be included in the test preperation

+1

Although you hear lads saying you're more likely to pass the test if you turn up in all the gear, which is fair enough.