Manchester united versus Manchester City sun 1.30pm

Xavi6

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Speaking about no class, how about the City fans with their Munich chants yesterday? I seem to remember only two years ago or less when they were holding up banners for Frank Swift, and then looked for credit for staying silent during the minutes silence. Bunch of knobs the lot of them over in that corner yesterday.

Ah I knew it would be only a matter of time before someone climbed aboard their high horse and had a go at the fans.

Good man tarring all 3,000 with the same brush.

I suppose all United fans are coin throwing **** as well?

nicklauski

Xavi6 wrote: »

I suppose all United fans are coin throwing **** as well?

I have to say I was disgusted when I saw that on the news last night. Was raging something like that had to happen.

Spud83

eddiehead wrote: »

Really? I'm not having a pop, just saying in this day and age that seem's very backward, surely they are all grown up enough to shake hand's, especially 2 player's who spent so long in the same team.

After the game fair enough, but maybe thats just me. Its nothing about being grown men, to me its about being a competitor and being focused on beating the other team nothing else. I doubt Gary Neville would have ignored Schmeichel after the game, but until then he is the enemy.

To be honest when I seen one of the United players (I think it was Anderson or Evra) at half time having a laugh and a joke with Tevez coming off the pitch it pissed me off a little. Same as in the tunnel before the game.

As I said maybe its just me, but people will have very different views on this, but saying a player has no class because of something like this is unfair. He may not be showing class to Schmeichel at the time but he is showing a lot of it to the fans.

nicklauski

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

After the game fair enough, but maybe thats just me. Its nothing about being grown men, to me its about being a competitor and being focused on beating the other team nothing else. I doubt Gary Neville would have ignored Schmeichel after the game, but until then he is the enemy.

To be honest when I seen one of the United players (I think it was Anderson or Evra) at half time having a laugh and a joke with Tevez coming off the pitch it pissed me off a little. Same as in the tunnel before the game.

As I said maybe its just me, but people will have very different views on this, but saying a player has no class because of something like this is unfair. He may not be showing class to Schmeichel at the time but he is showing a lot of it to the fans.

+1 to the beginning and end of that alan.

I thought it was full time that Ando & Evra were talking to him?
Im all for being friendly at the end of a game, but before hand and during it your going to do everything you can to make sure the other team doesn't win.

eddiehead

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Speaking about no class, how about the City fans with their Munich chants yesterday? I seem to remember only two years ago or less when they were holding up banners for Frank Swift, and then looked for credit for staying silent during the minutes silence. Bunch of knobs the lot of them over in that corner yesterday.

People shouldn't read so much into what fans chant at games because collectively, fans tend to be irrational d1ckheads who will take the lowest road possible to get at opposing fans, the fact is nothing is sacred to opposing fans, and all sets of fans are guilty of it from time to time.

I would also like to take this opportunity to say as a Chelsea fan that I don't actually think Ronaldo should have died in the tunnel

Spud83

nicklauski wrote: »

+1 to the beginning and end of that alan.

I thought it was full time that Ando & Evra were talking to him?
Im all for being friendly at the end of a game, but before hand and during it your going to do everything you can to make sure the other team doesn't win.

Ah they done it at full time which is fair enough, don't mind that as much. Although if we had drawn or lost I wouldn't like them joking around with the opposition.

One of them was definitely having a chat with him at half time and was actually close by when the coin or whatever it was was thrown from the crowd.

It is very true that opposing captains do not shake eachothers hands before a game even if they are good friends. John Terry & Gerrard are examples. However if the hand was offered to Gary Neville I feel it would of showed a little bit of class to accept it.... Schmeichel won an awful lot with United....

Mitch Connor

But he did shake his hand, as he was moving across the tunnel which is the first thing Schmeichel indicated to him.

They were not all pally, but focus before a game 'n all that.

_blank_

Class?

FFS, so what if he comes across as having no class.

What does it matter to anyone?

It's just another thing for you to post to get a dig in.

Class my eye.

He has passion for his club, the club he grew up supporting.

Why, exactly, does anyone care if he has class or not.

Jaysis lads, find something that matters to have a fight about.

Des

Des wrote: »

Class?

FFS, so what if he comes across as having no class.

What does it matter to anyone?

It's just another thing for you to post to get a dig in.

Class my eye.

He has passion for his club, the club he grew up supporting.

Why, exactly, does anyone care if he has class or not.

Jaysis lads, find something that matters to have a fight about.

Ok Des,

How about how handsome Lescott was looking? :pac:

_blank_

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok Des,

How about how handsome Lescott was looking? :pac:

Thinking of coming out KaG?;)

Pro. F

Boggles wrote: »

Didn't surprise me at all as I said before the match when it was touted City had the better midfield.

I always always side with the players that have been there and done it, not with players that have the potential to do it.

Before the game some people were saying City could be stronger in the centre mid, especially since they would have 3 to United's 2. You said you expected United to get the better of it because whatever pair was chosen would have been there and done it already. Anderson hasn't been there and done it, so if you had such confidence in our centre midfield before the game i suspect it was partially blind faith in Ferguson's decisions.

Personally, i was very happy yesterday, as it was the first time i've seen such an effective central midfield pair performance with out either Giggs or Scholes in there. Fletcher and Anderson complimented each other perfectly imo. They should be our first choice, and I hope they get lots of game time together so they can strengthen their partnership and prove themselves as a pair. My one doubt about Anderson is whether he will have the desire and courage to keep fighting and playing for the full 90 every game like he, more or less, did yesterday. Hopefully he does.

Mitch Connor

I think Anderson knows he had a bad start to the season, and I think the fact he asked to play in the reserves over one of the international breaks (against Bolton I think) shows he has the attitude and desire to do better and prove himself. Hopefully it continues.

grames_bond

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Speaking about no class, how about the City fans with their Munich chants yesterday? I seem to remember only two years ago or less when they were holding up banners for Frank Swift, and then looked for credit for staying silent during the minutes silence. Bunch of knobs the lot of them over in that corner yesterday.

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah I knew it would be only a matter of time before someone climbed aboard their high horse and had a go at the fans.

Good man tarring all 3,000 with the same brush.

I suppose all United fans are coin throwing **** as well?

its a sick sad fact but every team has their section of absolute scumbag fans, who react, i dont know whether it is heat of the moment or premeditated, and tbh i dont care! i really hope the utd "fan" who threw the coin gets a lifetime ban....this scumbaggery (yes thats a word ) really marred what was a brilliant game of football!

Mikeyt086

Pro. F wrote: »

Before the game some people were saying City could be stronger in the centre mid, especially since they would have 3 to United's 2. You said you expected United to get the better of it because whatever pair was chosen would have been there and done it already. Anderson hasn't been there and done it, so if you had such confidence in our centre midfield before the game i suspect it was partially blind faith in Ferguson's decisions.

Sorry, couldnt read on from here.

Boggles? Faith? Anderson?

Laughable.

Pro. F

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think Anderson knows he had a bad start to the season, and I think the fact he asked to play in the reserves over one of the international breaks (against Bolton I think) shows he has the attitude and desire to do better and prove himself. Hopefully it continues.

Yup, it was good to see him picking himself up and asking to play in that reserves game. It was also good to see how readily Fergie rewarded him.

Mikeyt086

Pro. F wrote: »

Yup, it was good to see him picking himself up and asking to play in that reserves game. It was also good to see how readily Fergie rewarded him.

Agreed. Especially after their supposed "bust up" :rolleyes:

ShooterSF

Bandit12 wrote: »

I did think about it. City scored and by the original posters stats 1 minute and 6 seconds where added on into injury time for the celebration. When Utd scored in injury time the ref added on 16 seconds after play restarted.

"after play restarted" That's the point. He added 4 minutes (initially) after play restarted from city's goal which was NOT 90:00. If your going to claim he didn't add on time for Owen's goal he should have blown full time about 8 seconds into the celebration!

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah I knew it would be only a matter of time before someone climbed aboard their high horse and had a go at the fans.

Good man tarring all 3,000 with the same brush.

I suppose all United fans are coin throwing **** as well?

You knew it would only be a matter of time because City fans sing it so often. Fact is that the only time I haven't heard this sort of ****e from city fans at the derby has been for the 50th anniversary of the crash.

Yes, that one United fan threw a coin and one United fan ran onto the pitch of course all united fans are coin throwers and pitch encroachers... Fact is, on a number of occasions the whole city end (or at least 90% of it) were singing a relatively fresh Munich chant. That or maybe they thought they were clapping along to blue moon at a completely different beat... :rolleyes:

SlickRic

are people not reading the sensible posts? RE: fan trouble.

you'll always get a few w*nkers.

those w*nkers will stoop to any level, be it chanting offensive sh*te or throwing coins at people.

every club has them.

don't paint everyone the same way, while thinking your own club doesn't have some of the same sorts of fans.

it makes you look a bit foolish tbh.

chanting that stuff is sick, but throwing stuff at players is just as yobbish.

Xavi6

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Yes, that one United fan threw a coin and one United fan ran onto the pitch of course all united fans are coin throwers and pitch encroachers...

So you're certain that it was just one coin? Or maybe only one hit?

The point is you haven't a clue about exact figures, as much as you want to claim so with the rubbish below -

Fact is, on a number of occasions the whole city end (or at least 90% of it) were singing a relatively fresh Munich chant. That or maybe they thought they were clapping along to blue moon at a completely different beat... :rolleyes:

Lol 'fact' my bollox

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote: »

So you're certain that it was just one coin? Or maybe only one hit?

The point is you haven't a clue about exact figures, as much as you want to claim so with the rubbish below -



Lol 'fact' my bollox

Fine, the MAJORITY of the city fans in that corner were singing Munich chants... You happy now?

Xavi6

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Fine, the MAJORITY of the city fans in that corner were singing Munich chants... You happy now?

No because you can't say it was the majority either.

1000 fans can make a hell of a lot of noise with a chant, and that's not a majority of the City fans who were there yesterday.

It's fantastic irony that on one hand you can say it's a fact that all/the majority of City fans were at the Munich chants yet you were convinced it was only one coin throwing United fan.

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote: »

No because you can't say it was the majority either.

1000 fans can make a hell of a lot of noise with a chant, and that's not a majority of the City fans who were there yesterday.

It's fantastic irony that on one hand you can say it's a fact that all/the majority of City fans were at the Munich chants yet you were convinced it was only one coin throwing United fan.

Were you there? Of course it is impossible to gauge how many fans were singing it, but the MAJORITY were taking part in the chant (at the very least) as the whole city end were clapping along to it.

Fantastic irony my arse. Are you saying that the majority of 72000 united fans threw coins. Because I am saying that the majority of the 3000 city fans were taking part in the Munich chants.

SlickRic

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Were you there? Of course it is impossible to gauge how many fans were singing it, but the MAJORITY were taking part in the chant (at the very least) as the whole city end were clapping along to it.

Fantastic irony my arse. Are you saying that the majority of 72000 united fans threw coins. Because I am saying that the majority of the 3000 city fans were taking part in the Munich chants.

this isn't a competition to see whose fans are scummier.

MagicMarker

These match threads should be closed the day after each match, they always plummet into pointless bickering.

dobsdave

MagicMarker wrote: »

These match threads should be closed the day after each match, they always plummet into pointless bickering.

Yes but were still playing injury time on this one;)

Xavi6

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Of course it is impossible to gauge how many fans were singing it

Then why did you do it with your 90% figure?

Are you saying that the majority of 72000 united fans threw coins.

No because I won't put a figure on something I would only be guessing about.

Mr. Presentable

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

You knew it would only be a matter of time because City fans sing it so often. Fact is that the only time I haven't heard this sort of ****e from city fans at the derby has been for the 50th anniversary of the crash.
Yes, that one United fan threw a coin and one United fan ran onto the pitch of course all united fans are coin throwers and pitch encroachers... Fact is, on a number of occasions the whole city end (or at least 90% of it) were singing a relatively fresh Munich chant. That or maybe they thought they were clapping along to blue moon at a completely different beat... :rolleyes:

You really need to stop wallowing in that - get over it and move on. Stop wearing something that happened 50 years ago as if it's some kind of badge of honour. It's not. It was a terrible tragedy and should not be used as an excuse to taunt anyone.

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote: »

Then why did you do it with your 90% figure?



No because I won't put a figure on something I would only be guessing about.

Thats how many I estimated were taking part in the song when I looked over at them singing it. Thats right, its an estimate, a guess, a rough figure. I'm confident that it close to the actual figure. Who needs figures when you have to listen to that ****e and see the majority of the City end enjoying themselves taking part in it.

There is no excusing any United fan or fans throwing coins or running onto the pitch. These are things that we would all like to see an end to. But when we have to listen to this type of ****e, year in year out when United play City it gets infuriating to say the least. Particularly when they get away with it every time, and then go and pat themselves on the back when they actually do stay silent for 60 seconds...

cournioni

nipplenuts wrote: »

You really need to stop wallowing in that - get over it and move on. Stop wearing something that happened 50 years ago as if it's some kind of badge of honour. It's not. It was a terrible tragedy and should not be used as an excuse to taunt anyone.

Fair enough. You try telling a Liverpool fan to stop wallowing over Hillsborough, a Celtic fan to stop wallowing over the Famine song, a Juventus fan over Heysel...

Fact is, regardless of who you support, or who your opposition is, you shouldn't have to listen to this kind of ****e at a football match. Its tasteless and incites trouble.

Xavi6

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Thats how many I estimated were taking part in the song when I looked over at them singing it. Thats right, its an estimate, a guess, a rough figure. I'm confident that it close to the actual figure. Who needs figures when you have to listen to that ****e and see the majority of the City end enjoying themselves taking part in it.

Then don't use the word 'fact' when you post it. Kind makes it hard to take seriously.

There is no excusing any United fan or fans throwing coins or running onto the pitch. These are things that we would all like to see an end to. But when we have to listen to this type of ****e, year in year out when United play City it gets infuriating to say the least. Particularly when they get away with it every time, and then go and pat themselves on the back when they actually do stay silent for 60 seconds...

I won't make any excuses for the fans who sing those songs. They are stupid and disrespectful and I've never/would never take part in them myself.

However, I'm not gonna listen to someone slate City fans as a collective, in the same way I'm sure you would speak up for your own if the shoe was on the other foot.

Mr. Presentable

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Fact is, regardless of who you support, or who your opposition is, you shouldn't have to listen to this kind of ****e at a football match. Its tasteless and incites trouble.

Agreed. My point exactly, really. But if nobody reacts to it, it'll fade away.

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote: »

Then don't use the word 'fact' when you post it. Kind makes it hard to take seriously.



I won't make any excuses for the fans who sing those songs. They are stupid and disrespectful and I've never/would never take part in them myself.

However, I'm not gonna listen to someone slate City fans as a collective, in the same way I'm sure you would speak up for your own if the shoe was on the other foot.

No problem.

I'm not so stupid to say that all City fans in all walks of life are responsible for these songs, however the majority in the City end yesterday took the piss. The annoying thing is, they get away with it, year in year out.

Handsome Bob

Boggles wrote: »

United were without Scholes, VDS, Hargreaves.

Poor excuses Al.

Hargreaves? You've been doing without him for the best of his career with Man U so he was hardly a miss yesterday.

KittyeeTrix

p_larkin99 wrote: »

The bitterness in here is so sad its riduclous and its even worse when its coming from fans of a team not even involved in the game.

The team who were easily best won. Couldnt have happened to a nice set of fans (this is based on the idiotic City fans who were in the city centre after the gameO

As a city fan I'm not bitter about the result but bitterly disappointed!!

Of course I didn't want to see Owen score the winner especially as he was on a free and knew the stick would come in about it. It's only natural, I'd be lying if I said otherwise;)

Mikeyt086

United have mind control over refs.
Bellamy is a thug.
City fans are pathetic.
United fans are pathetic.
United have mind control over refs.
Gary Neville has no class.
Both sets of fans are thugs.

What next?

As magic marker said, these threads should be closed the next day. There is no point in keeping them open as the match is not being discussed.

Paul Tergat

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

As a city fan I'm not bitter about the result but bitterly disappointed!!

Of course I didn't want to see Owen score the winner especially as he was on a free and knew the stick would come in about it. It's only natural, I'd be lying if I said otherwise;)

Now you have at least been bloody honest about it. All you need to do is read back over the crap thats been posted about Fergie controlling how long is added on. Its just embarrassing and like I said its even worse coming from the non-City fans.

If we hadn't have scored the winner I would have left OT feeling bitterly disappointed as you do.

Nalz

Was at the game, amazing! City better team first half, should have been in front through Tevez. United upped it second half, deserved their win in the end. Giggs, Given, Tevez, Fletcher and Rooney all stood out for me. Evra and de Jong to a lesser extent.

Great weekend, I got lifted up by complete strangers in the stand when Owen scored. Place went mad. The song for Tevez was funny, although I didnt catch all the lyrics.

Mr Alan wrote: »

LOL

ya know whats even funnier then that Al....

Mr Alan wrote: »

Bellamy is good fella.

an absolute headcase, but a good fella none the less!

priceless

Boggles wrote: »

United were without Scholes, VDS, Hargreaves.

Poor excuses Al.

dont forget Obertan!

Mr Alan

Trilla wrote: »

priceless

http://craigbellamyfoundation.org/

If stories about players giving generously invite cynicism, the one about Craig Bellamy setting up a €820,000 academy in Sierra Leone was met with disbelief.

The West Ham striker, previously best-known for a string of controversial incidents at both football clubs and nightclubs, is to invest €820,000 of his own money into creating an entire football structure in the benighted west African nation.

Liverpool striker Craig Bellamy has made a financial donation to help Wrexham's fight against relegation.

The money, described by Wrexham as "very generous", enabled the club to sign three loan players as they seek to avoid dropping into the Conference.

Wrexham are currently in the League Two relegation zone with eight games to go.

"Being a proud Welshman, I feel it's important that Wrexham retain their place in The Football League and I hope this gesture can help," said Bellamy.

"I have a lot of friends playing at the club and have enjoyed some memorable times at The Racecourse, especially when I was given the captain's armband for my country [last November].

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/wrexham/6511139.stm

I like him.

Mad as a bottle of chips though obviously.

abouttobebanned

He's as mad as any of us would be if we were gifted football players.

Fighting Irish

MagicMarker wrote: »

These match threads should be closed the day after each match, they always plummet into pointless bickering.

you should be a boards mod, they also like closing threads when people are still discussing stuff they want to discuss

Eire-Dearg

Sherifu

Fighting Irish wrote: »

you should be a boards mod, they also like closing threads when people are still discussing stuff they want to discuss

The Stephen Ireland thread objects to your scurrilous remark.

Nalz

Fighting Irish wrote: »

you should be a boards mod, they also like closing threads when people are still discussing stuff they want to discuss

Spot on imo, I only came back to Ireland and the internet yesterday - I think a day max is a bit eh on the short side no?

Vampireskiss

I think Mark Hughes has some cheek to call Gary Neville a lunitic for running to the man-city fans and celebrating the winning goal when only the week before he was trying to defend his own player for a similar incident.It shows his bitterness.

DSB

Is Hughes possibly the least likeable manager there is in Premiership football? Him and Warnock fighting it out for the overall football award.

Mr Alan

Hughes?!

not even nearly. seems like a decent bloke & good manager too imo.

NaiveMelodies

DSB wrote: »

Is Hughes possibly the least likeable manager there is in Premiership football? Him and Warnock fighting it out for the overall football award.

I dont mind Hughes atall. But the Last few weeks have been a learning curve for him in terms of dealling with Adebayor situation then stupidly talking crap about God.

He will never mess with Sir Alex Ferguson again for sure, no more silly comments and stupid posters, he has learned his lesson the hard way.

Pighead

What Mr Alan said. Not even close DSB. Hughes would be in the relegation zone when it comes to a league table of hateful managers.