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Halo : ODST
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I spent €80 on this game and it represents fantastic value to me. I got the edition with the controller which I really like and it brings my control pad total to 4
So if the game is €45 that is €35 for the pad... not a bad price.
While I enjoyed Halo 3 I never once bought a map pack for it, so this is another area where the game shines, as I'm now getting all the MP maps on one handy disk.
Firefight is great fun, even though I haven't played it much.
Campaign is short, but rewards multiple playthroughs on difficulties and with co-op friends!
So, overall, while there are people saying how poor value this release is, there is the flip-side of the coin, to whom the game represents good value; me.
Firefight needs matchmaking, I will say that!0 -
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1. Playing on normal I've been EATING through it. I had just completed Halo 3 solo on Legendary so ODST is a walk in the park at Normal difficulty compared to that. I reckon I'm about halfway.
It says in the game while you're actually selecting the difficulty that playing it on easy basically 'plays itself', and normal isn't far off it. Length of the game can't be criticized to a great extent if you're tearing through enemies who barely have a fighting chance against you. Solo legendary with skulls ought to do the trick.2. Levels are too short. Each 'level' seems to be one or two big battles and then its over. Much more loading that the previous game.
I didn't really have any qualms with the length of the levels really, but then again I wasn't playing on normal. :pac: Same point as before.3. The flashback style gameplay just doesn't work. The flow is too dis-jointed. I actually have no idea what is going on in the story, I'm just killing every bad guy.
The story isn't terribly complex. You're Rookie, part of ODST, sent on a drop that goes wrong because of Regret's assault carrier doing a slipspace jump in the middle of New Mombasa. The drop goes wrong and your squad is scattered across the city.
Whenever you find an item that brings you into a flashback, it's an item related to one of your scattered squadmates, which you find more out about by playing through the flashback. When the flashback ends, you return to battle as the Rookie. I can understand if you're not particularly filled in on the story it can be easy to get lost, but if you're a Halo fan you've no excuse.
4. The jury is out on the open style city layout. I feel like I'm back-tracking a lot.
That's what the map in your VISR's for really. Set waypoints if you're stuck.5. Access doors that allow you to flank the enemy are great but why are there so few of them? It seems very few of the 'doors' on the map actually open, very frustrating.
I had a few problems with that too, but I learned to just turn the VISR off and check each door from a distance to see if there's a glowing red light on it. If there is, you can't go in. Flanking isn't necessary for every battle you get into anyway.6. Price. €45 is a bit steep for what you get.
I refer back to the post I made earlier. You're getting a campaign that can be made quite long and difficult if you jump into it on solo legendary with the skulls turned on, Firefight mode, and every single map they've released for Halo 3 so far, including 3 exclusive ones.
I think €45 is a reasonable price to pay considering it'd cost over half that just to get the maps released as DLC alone, nevermind the maps that shipped with Halo 3 and the 3 exclusives. That's not even factoring in the campaign and Firefight.7. Health packs. Why? The re-generating health feature worked well. From time to time now i find myself tracking way back through the level to locate a health pack before returning to the fight, ruining the pace of a battle.
Health packs were put in because you're not a Spartan supersoldier anymore with a regenerating shield (Not actually regenerating health), because they wanted to convey the vulnerability regular soldiers on the field would face on the battlefield against the Covenant, and they wanted you to strategize a bit when it came to battles, since some of the emphasis of this game relies on stealth.
If you're backtracking a lot on normal difficulty just to get healthpacks, I'd recommend you stay in cover. I played it on Legendary solo the first time I started the campaign and I didn't need many health packs at all, because I was careful. I think you're ruining the pace of the battle yourself by not covering your ass. :pac:0 -
Good points! First of all, few of my Cons list are really strong criticisms, merely aspects i'm not a big fan of.Twilightning wrote: »It says in the game while you're actually selecting the difficulty that playing it on easy basically 'plays itself', and normal isn't far off it. Length of the game can't be criticized to a great extent if you're tearing through enemies who barely have a fighting chance against you. Solo legendary with skulls ought to do the trick.
yeah, I guess i wasn't prepared with how easy to jump is down from legendary to normal. I'm not really bothered. I'm enjoying going through it relatively quickly, getting a feel for the game. I'll return to it again on legendary.Twilightning wrote: »I didn't really have any qualms with the length of the levels really, but then again I wasn't playing on normal. :pac: Same point as before.
Nah, they seem to be very short, even accounting for the skill level I'm on.The 3rd or 4th level in you start in a warthog. You kill a few wraiths, then a few more and you're done! Similar a few levels later on except you are back in the city.Twilightning wrote: »The story isn't terribly complex. You're Rookie, part of ODST, sent on a drop that goes wrong because of Regret's assault carrier doing a slipspace jump in the middle of New Mombasa. The drop goes wrong and your squad is scattered across the city.
grand, thanks for the update
Twilightning wrote: »Whenever you find an item that brings you into a flashback, it's an item related to one of your scattered squadmates, which you find more out about by playing through the flashback. When the flashback ends, you return to battle as the Rookie. I can understand if you're not particularly filled in on the story it can be easy to get lost, but if you're a Halo fan you've no excuse.
meh!Twilightning wrote: »That's what the map in your VISR's for really. Set waypoints if you're stuck.
But health isn't marked on the map is it? Yeah i might try using the waypoints a bit more but to be honest i'm don't want to be playing operation flashpoint here, i just want some straight-forward Halo! This new map functionality seems un-needed to me.Twilightning wrote: »I had a few problems with that too, but I learned to just turn the VISR off and check each door from a distance to see if there's a glowing red light on it. If there is, you can't go in. Flanking isn't necessary for every battle you get into anyway.
Red light means its locked? Great stuff, thanks.Twilightning wrote: »I refer back to the post I made earlier. You're getting a campaign that can be made quite long and difficult if you jump into it on solo legendary with the skulls turned on, Firefight mode, and every single map they've released for Halo 3 so far, including 3 exclusive ones.
I'm not going to whinge about the length of the game as its been done to death and i guess that when you add in the multiplayer aspect its decent value but €35 would probably be closer to the mark. People will either love the Campaign or the Multiplayer and rarely both. From that point of view, €45 can seem a bit high.Twilightning wrote: »I think €45 is a reasonable price to pay considering it'd cost over half that just to get the maps released as DLC alone, nevermind the maps that shipped with Halo 3 and the 3 exclusives. That's not even factoring in the campaign and Firefight.
as above.Twilightning wrote: »Health packs were put in because you're not a Spartan supersoldier anymore with a regenerating shield (Not actually regenerating health), because they wanted to convey the vulnerability regular soldiers on the field would face on the battlefield against the Covenant, and they wanted you to strategize a bit when it came to battles, since some of the emphasis of this game relies on stealth.
i understand that they wanted to link the health in with being a normal soldier etc but that its still an inferior game mechanic. I LOVE the way in Halo 3 i didn't have to worry about health, a little bit of cover and on you went. It meant that you could concentrate on how much ammo you have left and not about whether you had to go look for a health pack.Twilightning wrote: »If you're backtracking a lot on normal difficulty just to get healthpacks, I'd recommend you stay in cover. I played it on Legendary solo the first time I started the campaign and I didn't need many health packs at all, because I was careful. I think you're ruining the pace of the battle yourself by not covering your ass. :pac:
tbh, I'm playing it a bit casual due to the skill level and very rarely use cover (and very rarely even use a health pack) but it just seems to ruing the pacing when i have to go find one.0 -
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